Jim Molinari new Hire?

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Per a couple sources. Former Bradley and Western Illinois head coach. Last season was an assistant at Nebraska
 
He'd be a defensive minded coach. I could get with it.

Several D1 schools are hiring a "def cord" on staff.
 
NAIA All-Star said:
That would be underwhelming.
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I get that some will never be happy but why would this be underwhelming? The BIGGEST complaint about Kevin was his lack of experience. This guy knocks that out of the park having playing experience (with Kruger) and also coaching/scouting for the last 30+ years.

On top of that, as some have noted, he’s known for his ability to coach defense which a ton of people have also complained about.

Keep in mind this would be for the 3rd assistant coach position. I feel like Kruger looked at a check list of “needs” for the staff and crossed off experience and defense with this hire (if it happens) which again have been two of the biggest complaints of this board the last 3 years and yet it’s underwhelming...
 
Miles did a decent to arguably pretty good job by NU standards historically....makes some sense there would be some good coaches on his staff who are now unemployed.

i get the Bugeaters had to make a move for Hoiberg, i guess you have to....but, seems like a solid hire for Lon and the Sooners.
 
Maverick008 said:
I get that some will never be happy but why would this be underwhelming? The BIGGEST complaint about Kevin was his lack of experience. This guy knocks that out of the park having playing experience (with Kruger) and also coaching/scouting for the last 30+ years.

On top of that, as some have noted, he’s known for his ability to coach defense which a ton of people have also complained about.

Keep in mind this would be for the 3rd assistant coach position. I feel like Kruger looked at a check list of “needs” for the staff and crossed off experience and defense with this hire (if it happens) which again have been two of the biggest complaints of this board the last 3 years and yet it’s underwhelming...
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+1
 
OU92Grad said:
Per a couple sources. Former Bradley and Western Illinois head coach. Last season was an assistant at Nebraska
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And youve got sources if true...

I heard he was down to 3 guys but couldnt get names on any...
 
This sounds like a total home run to me. Former head coach, defensive minded, veteran. I dig it.
 
Would have preferred a younger "voice" on the staff, but this is Lon's team, the 3rd assistant isn't going to make a huge impact either way.

Staff ages:
LK - 66
Crutchfield - 49ish?
Hartman - 46
 
WTSooner said:
Would have preferred a younger "voice" on the staff, but this is Lon's team, the 3rd assistant isn't going to make a huge impact either way.

Staff ages:
LK - 66
Crutchfield - 49ish?
Hartman - 46
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So when you say “younger” are you talking 30’s? And are you saying this based on recruiting? We had a younger guy on staff that no one liked due to the lack of experience and claimed he didn’t do anything.

The other problem about “younger” assistants in my opinion is they are always looking to move up to the next best thing in order to better their career and ultimately be a head coach. The guy now at UNLV is that type in my opinion. Was known as a dynamite recruiter for Iowa St. Left to take over South Dakota St. then UNLV for next year.

Otherwise, I think you’ll run into the same “lack of experience” issue we had the past few years. Hopefully that makes sense? :D
 
I think it was pretty well known that Bob Hoffman was an outstanding assistant coach, and he was no spring chicken. I want some real basketball coaches, not just professional recruiters. OU wins by developing players, not by being Kentucky and getting professional talent every year.
 
WTSooner said:
Would have preferred a younger "voice" on the staff, but this is Lon's team, the 3rd assistant isn't going to make a huge impact either way.

Staff ages:
LK - 66
Crutchfield - 49ish?
Hartman - 46
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Shocked...

Kevin was the demise of this team, but this 3rd assistant isnt going to make a huge impact... (not you specifically)

Moving that goal post again...
 
Maverick008 said:
So when you say “younger” are you talking 30’s? And are you saying this based on recruiting? We had a younger guy on staff that no one liked due to the lack of experience and claimed he didn’t do anything.

The other problem about “younger” assistants in my opinion is they are always looking to move up to the next best thing in order to better their career and ultimately be a head coach. The guy now at UNLV is that type in my opinion. Was known as a dynamite recruiter for Iowa St. Left to take over South Dakota St. then UNLV for next year.

Otherwise, I think you’ll run into the same “lack of experience” issue we had the past few years. Hopefully that makes sense? :D
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30's, or even late 20's in the right situation.

And sure, for recruiting, but also just to have a more relatable person on staff. I don't care how cool or hip Hartman or Crutch are, there is a pretty big age/generational gap there. The football team has a guy like Chip Viney that everybody loves and buddies up to. Seems like the basketball team could also benefit from such a voice/person. I hear players talking about it all the time. Most recently in regards to Kellen Sampson. Just nice for the placers to have a more relatable personality on staff in a lot of cases.

As for Kevin Kruger, I never spoke a single disparaging word about him. I think trying to blame him alone for the mess of the past three years is disingenuous at best.
 
CoachTalk said:
Shocked...

Kevin was the demise of this team, but this 3rd assistant isnt going to make a huge impact... (not you specifically)

Moving that goal post again...
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If you are going to comment that I wasn't the one blaming Kevin, then how exactly can I move the goal post?

Lame.
 
thebigabd said:
I think it was pretty well known that Bob Hoffman was an outstanding assistant coach, and he was no spring chicken. I want some real basketball coaches, not just professional recruiters. OU wins by developing players, not by being Kentucky and getting professional talent every year.
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There is a middle ground. We need to stop recruiting crap-talent that will never contribute in a meaningful way.

How many 4* recruits does OSU have never year? How about OU? Absolutely zero reason for that. I'm not saying recruiting is the end-all be-all, but dang, can we stop with the kids that have no business being on the roster? Can we stop with SO MANY projects? I have no idea if a younger coach would recruit better necessarily, but experience on the staff was not an issue the past three years. Lon, Crutch, and Hartman all have PLENTY of experience.
 
WTSooner said:
30's, or even late 20's in the right situation.

And sure, for recruiting, but also just to have a more relatable person on staff. I don't care how cool or hip Hartman or Crutch are, there is a pretty big age/generational gap there. The football team has a guy like Chip Viney that everybody loves and buddies up to. Seems like the basketball team could also benefit from such a voice/person. I hear players talking about it all the time. Most recently in regards to Kellen Sampson. Just nice for the placers to have a more relatable personality on staff in a lot of cases.

As for Kevin Kruger, I never spoke a single disparaging word about him. I think trying to blame him alone for the mess of the past three years is disingenuous at best.
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I get where you are coming from for the “relatable” aspect but I’m not sure that matters all that much in most situations. I’ve heard many recruits in my lifetime talk about the relationships they have with many a coaches that are a lot older as well. I personally think that depends more on the recruit and isn’t a deal breaker for a guy to play for that school. As far as the age thing goes. I would rather have a coach that can develop players on and off the court more than a guy they see as a buddy :)

I wasn’t saying you blamed anything on Kruger specifically. The consensus of this board is that Kevin Kruger was a large part of the issues with this team and Hartman as well. I personally think Molinari would be a good hire for the reasons I stated earlier mainly his experience and defensive mindset.

I also could see Crutch or Hartman moving on in the next year or two and opening up another opportunity to bring in a younger up and comer.
 
WTSooner said:
There is a middle ground. We need to stop recruiting crap-talent that will never contribute in a meaningful way.

How many 4* recruits does OSU have never year? How about OU? Absolutely zero reason for that. I'm not saying recruiting is the end-all be-all, but dang, can we stop with the kids that have no business being on the roster? Can we stop with SO MANY projects? I have no idea if a younger coach would recruit better necessarily, but experience on the staff was not an issue the past three years. Lon, Crutch, and Hartman all have PLENTY of experience.
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Preaching to the choir man... I try to point that out all the time, and it causes a fury of emotions on the board if you dare question the recruiting practices of this staff.
 
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