Jim Molinari new Hire?

Preaching to the choir man... I try to point that out all the time, and it causes a fury of emotions on the board if you dare question the recruiting practices of this staff.

I will give you credit, you crack me up :) Hardly ANYONE on here would argue the fact that Kruger goes after WAY too many projects for our liking lol it’s the fact that you throw out JUCOs as a way to replace those projects 99% of the time, when little to nothing is known whether or not they would really be any better. And at that point you usually only have 2 years instead of 4 with them. If you pointed out another HS player every once in a while that you would take a shot with other than just the best Juco prospect from Arkansas that everyone else is also after, I don’t think you would get a lot of the back lash you do. Just my opinion :D
 
I like the hire (assuming that is the guy hired)...believe Coach Kruger needs a voice in those coaches meetings to point out some of the things the players are doing wrong...something a much younger assistant is less likely to do. That said, WTSooner is correct in that younger players will often relate better to younger coaches. It's no secret people are more likely to relate well to others in their age group than someone noticeably older or younger...but I still like the hire.
 
you throw out JUCOs as a way to replace those projects 99% of the time, when little to nothing is known whether or not they would really be any better.

And then, when it's pointed out that one of those jucos he praised to the skies was statistically speaking little better than an OU player he had trashed, he makes the head-spinningly specious claim that the poor li'l juco transfer should be given a break because he had never played college basketball before.
 
And then, when it's pointed out that one of those jucos he praised to the skies was statistically speaking little better than an OU player he had trashed, he makes the head-spinningly specious claim that the poor li'l juco transfer should be given a break because he had never played college basketball before.

Yeah and I get that but what I’m saying is IF he pointed out a HS recruit that averaged 20 and 10 from some school and is a 3 star recruit but listed at 6’9 230 instead of 6’9 185 like a lot of the guys OU has recruited lately and said that they could focus JUST on the basketball side of things instead of “gaining weight and muscle” first then again, I don’t think he’d catch as much backlash.

Instead of the old narrative of finding a guy after the fact, that transferred from a JUCO and averaged 12 and 8 at a school comparable to OU and bashing OU for not even offering :ez-roll:

My original point to him is that it’s that MOST of the board does agree that OU needs to stop “reaching” so much for guys that could have potential once they actually get to a size that can handle the game at this level. Find me a cam lard that is already physically ready to bang instead of needing 2 years to get there....
 
And then, when it's pointed out that one of those jucos he praised to the skies was statistically speaking little better than an OU player he had trashed, he makes the head-spinningly specious claim that the poor li'l juco transfer should be given a break because he had never played college basketball before.

Not to derail this thread, but if you can't understand the difference between a person playing their first year of college basketball vs a player who was a senior... and if you also refuse to acknowledge that one of these guys was the 4th best shooter in the conference and the other was practically unplayable once the competition got harder, there just isn't anywhere else we can go with this discussion.

I mean, the guy you are fighting with me about hit 1 three point shot in his last 22 games at OU... And he was a senior... and that shot came in a 30 point loss to Baylor.

By your logic.... Miles Reynolds is just as good as Quentin Grimes from Kansas then... Their numbers are similar.... OU wouldn't have been any better with him than with Miles... Yep, no talent difference. Except one is going to the NBA and the other was unplayable...Lets see here... Oh yes, Miles Reynolds is significantly better than Jamal Bienemy, right? Reynolds averaged more points... Had nothing to do with Reynolds being a senior and Bienemy being a first year player. Reynolds is clearly better! Right skyvue????? RIGHT!!!

Defend it. Please try to defend your position on this again.
 
If you are going to comment that I wasn't the one blaming Kevin, then how exactly can I move the goal post?

Lame.

If you are going to comment that I wasn't the one blaming Kevin, then how exactly can I move the goal post?

Lame.

I'd guess somebody most of us aren't familiar with. Unless we lose an assistant, it's the third spot that is open. Tough to bring in somebody too well known or experienced for that spot.

... Moving the goal post. Bringing in experience vs Kevin.
Which one do you want?
 
Assuming the news is accurate, I like this hire. The mid sixties today is about the same as the mid fifties thirty years ago. Motivated people are eating better, exercising more and retiring at an older age these days. It’s foolish and downright insulting to assume a coach in his sixties is “over the hill.” If Molinari is in good health and he still enjoys working with student athletes, more power to him!
 
Assuming the news is accurate, I like this hire. The mid sixties today is about the same as the mid fifties thirty years ago. Motivated people are eating better, exercising more and retiring at an older age these days. It’s foolish and downright insulting to assume a coach in his sixties is “over the hill.” If Molinari is in good health and he still enjoys working with student athletes, more power to him!

Looks like my sources were accurate:

https://newsok.com/article/5629725/ou-basketball-jim-molinari-hired-as-third-assistant
 
I'm sure as soon as we struggle for a couple minutes in the first exhibition game, there will be some complaining that it is all because of Molinari and that Lon only hired him because they were teammates at KSU. Sadly, I'm only half kidding.
 
Some things are consistent on the men's bb board and the women's bb board. The butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker on both boards think they know more about hiring assistant coaches than actual coaches do.
 
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... Moving the goal post. Bringing in experience vs Kevin.
Which one do you want?

LMAO

You are reaching on this one. Context. Look it up.

Would you call this dude well known?

:ez-roll:
 
I'm sure as soon as we struggle for a couple minutes in the first exhibition game, there will be some complaining that it is all because of Molinari and that Lon only hired him because they were teammates at KSU. Sadly, I'm only half kidding.

Sadly, there is a very good chance you will be right.
 
From Eric Bailey...

Molinari recently was an assistant coach at Nebraska for five seasons. He is a former Kansas State teammate of OU head coach Lon Kruger.

Molinari takes the place of Kevin Kruger, who spent two years on his father’s Oklahoma coaching staff. Kevin Kruger departed Norman to take a similar job at UNLV earlier this month.
 
if you can't understand the difference between a person playing their first year of college basketball vs a player who was a senior...

I can understand that difference in theory but it doesn't apply to the two players we're talking about.

Bandoo was a junior. He came to Baylor after playing two years of lower-level collegiate basketball, just as Reynolds, who was a senior, came to OU after playing three years of lower-level (though admittedly not as low as Bandoo) collegiate basketball.

Saying anything else about their respective experience is a mischaracterization. For pete's sake, if Bandoo really was the first-year player you keep pretending he was, then there'd be no advantage in taking him or any other juco transfer. Go get a high school player and you'll have him for four years.

But of course, there is a (theoretical, at least) advantage to signing a juco transfer over a high school senior and that is that the juco guy has played two years of -- wait for it -- collegiate basketball. So just stop with the "first year of college basketball" crap. It's insulting that you think we're that stupid.

And picking a certain part of the season that supports your stance is BS. The entire season matters. And over the course of the season, Bandoo's stats were only marginally better than Reynolds. That's just a fact.

And focusing on Reynolds' three-point shooting is beyond disingenuous -- he averaged less than one shot per game from behind the arc. It wasn't his game. Bandoo, by contrast, averaged nearly 4 deep shots per game. But despite shooting nearly four times as often from deep, he still averaged only 1.5 points more game than Reynolds.

As for Bandoo being the 4th best shooter in the conference, he did rank 4th in 3-pt percentage, but he's not in the top 15 in overall field goal percentage. Cherry-picking and mischaracterizing again -- you simply can't help yourself.

I don't have to agree with you -- there are plenty of posters on this board I don't agree with -- but if you won't play it straight with the facts --and you most definitely don't -- I'm going to call you on it every time.

What I'm not doing is building up Reynolds -- he was a decent player at best. But you were trashing both him and Calixte before they ever arrived in Norman. If you can't grasp why that might rub many OU fans the wrong way, I don't know what to tell you. Especially when, as you're trashing them, you're generally hyping random juco players, most of whom turn out to be average at best.

No, I'm calling you out on your mischaracterizations, your cherry-picked stats, your misstatements, your spin, your constant moving of the goal posts. You get the facts wrong consistently and, worse, seemingly intentionally, and easily 80% of your posts either criticize OU's coaches and players, praise rival programs or both, and it gets old after a while.
 
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LMAO

You are reaching on this one. Context. Look it up.

Would you call this dude well known?

:ez-roll:

Really? I would have thought a man of the world like you would have a working knowledge about Jim Molinari. I knew who he was. He’s roughly one generation behind my own, so I’m sure that made a difference. Old timers like Jim and me have to stick together you know. ;)

Seriously, I could have predicted your reaction to this hire before your first post. It’s all too similar to your comments about the players on our roster coming back next year and the newbies coming in. You don’t seem to be happy with much of anything lately, so it’s not like I’m psychic or anything.
 
Really? I would have thought a man of the world like you would have a working knowledge about Jim Molinari. I knew who he was. He’s roughly one generation behind my own, so I’m sure that made a difference. Old timers like Jim and me have to stick together you know. ;)

Seriously, I could have predicted your reaction to this hire before your first post. It’s all too similar to your comments about the players on our roster coming back next year and the newbies coming in. You don’t seem to be happy with much of anything lately, so it’s not like I’m psychic or anything.

It wasn't many weeks ago that you were right there with me.

You've flipped the switch back to being "positive" quicker than I care to. It'll happen, I'm just not there yet.

I would have preferred Lon went another direction with this hire. Unfortunately, he didn't ask me.
 
More of a lurker here but did i miss something? is Bandoo the second coming of Terrell Everett?Just asking
 
I would have preferred Lon went another direction with this hire. Unfortunately, he didn't ask me.

I guess i’m just wanting a better understanding of why you feel this way? If it’s mainly/all about the recruiting side/relating to players because of age thing then I guess we can agree to disagree about what is best for the program. In previous stops the guy won conference coach of the year 3 times. He’s been an NBA scout, he played major DI basketball so in my opinion, he has lots to talk to and teach these guys about. Regardless if it was at the “well-known” schools or if he has a big name or not.

Again, just trying to get more of an insight as to why you feel this was the “wrong direction” for Kruger to take?
 
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