Kansas celebrates Big 12 survival

[SoonerTraveler]

http://www.newsok.com/article/3468889

College football notebook: Kansas celebrates Big 12 survival
From Staff and Wire Reports ... The Oklahoman
Published: June 16, 2010

Top Kansas officials Tuesday celebrated the survival of the Big 12 Conference, even if it came with significant concessions to universities in Texas and Oklahoma.

Gov. Mark Parkinson called the renewed life for the league with 10 members "great news” for the University of Kansas, Kansas State University, their athletes and fans. Kansas and Kansas State officials saw keeping the conference together as their best option after Colorado and Nebraska announced last week that they'd leave by 2012.

Colorado and Nebraska are expected to pay millions of dollars in penalties for leaving, and the money normally would be split among the remaining conference members.

But the two Kansas schools, Missouri, Iowa State and Baylor agreed to forgo their payments, with their shares split among Texas, Texas A&M and OU.

The concession didn't bother Kansas House Speaker Mike O'Neal, an ardent Kansas fan.

"It's all about the money in the first place,” O'Neal said. "Keeping them in the conference also has a value to it. At some point, it's a matter of, 'What it's going to take to keep you in the conference?'”

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[Max Power]

And yet Cheno still thinks Kansas had pull in this whole matter

 

[hoopsaustin]

Lol

 

[Cheno]

And yet Cheno still thinks Kansas had pull in this whole matter

When did I ever say that?
I said KU wouldn't be left out in the cold in a non-BCS. And they haven't.
I said Big Lew and NCHCBS said not to worry, so I didn't.

You are right though....there was a lot of people looking rather silly in this....talking all that smack about KU.......heck in one poll about where do you want OU to go, the KU choice of "who cares as long as KU gets left out" won. Now that's some funny stuff there. I guess next time you better worry about OU more. :clap

 

[Max Power]

When did I ever say that?
I said KU wouldn't be left out in the cold in a non-BCS. And they haven't.
I said Big Lew and NCHCBS said not to worry, so I didn't.

You are right though....there was a lot of people looking rather silly in this....talking all that smack about KU.......heck in one poll about where do you want OU to go, the KU choice of "who cares as long as KU gets left out" won. Now that's some funny stuff there. I guess next time you better worry about OU more. :clap

You can play it off all you want but Kansas was thisclose to being in the MWC. they had to make major concessions to OU, a&m, and UT to avoid it. Big Lew even admitted that KU, KSU, BU, ISU, and MU offered to give up part of their shares of the revenue from the TV deal, On top of their shares of NU's and CU's big 12 buyout, to the Big 3 so we wouldn't leave them behind. So Congrats your team will now make mid major money in a BCS conference

And there was no need to worry about OU in conference realignment, we were wanted by the Pac-10 and SEC

 

[boksooner]

Even with all the concession (foregoing NU and CU's exit fees and some basketball revenue), those 5 teams are projected to make considerably more than they did before. I would hardly call it mid major money

 

[Max Power]

Even with all the concession (foregoing NU and CU's exit fees and some basketball revenue), those 5 teams are projected to make considerably more than they did before. I would hardly call it mid major money

If we get a new TV deal. Beebe has not negotiated one yet.

 

[boksooner]

By keeping the existing deal with less teams that is already more money per team. The next step is renegotiating the Fox deal. The increase there will be due to some increased servicing rights (I think they were called tier 3 rights, but don't quote me). OU and Texas would not have stayed in the Big X without some assurance from the network about the deal.

 

[Max Power]

By keeping the existing deal with less teams that is already more money per team. The next step is renegotiating the Fox deal. The increase there will be due to some increased servicing rights (I think they were called tier 3 rights, but don't quote me). OU and Texas would not have stayed in the Big X without some assurance from the network about the deal.

I disagree with that based on the fact that the Big 12 is the only place where Texas could get there own network right now, and Joe C. Said whatever texas does we do. Plus Boren wanted us to stay with oSu and the SEC wouldn't take them

 

[boksooner]

I disagree with that based on the fact that the Big 12 is the only place where Texas could get there own network right now, and Joe C. Said whatever texas does we do.

The reason that Joe C. wanted to stick with Texas is because of money. If OU thought they were going to get more money in the Pac-10, then they would have gone. A Texas network is only going to be worth maybe $5 mill a year, and will likely operate at a huge loss for the first several years (just like the Big Ten network did). Texas would not take $10+ mill less to start their own network that at maturity will, likely, only make half that.

Fox is planning on putting weekend sports programming on FX. They will put a ton of promotional dollars behind it. They need the Texas and OU for that to work, which is why they would pay a premium. I may not like how things came about, but that doesn't mean that the final results are bad.

 

[BanjoCharley]

When did I ever say that?
I said KU wouldn't be left out in the cold in a non-BCS. And they haven't.
I said Big Lew and NCHCBS said not to worry, so I didn't.

You are right though....there was a lot of people looking rather silly in this....talking all that smack about KU.......heck in one poll about where do you want OU to go, the KU choice of "who cares as long as KU gets left out" won. Now that's some funny stuff there. I guess next time you better worry about OU more. :clap

It's called whistling in the dark. I wasn't ever "worried about" Kansas, never will be.

 

[Cheno]

It's called whistling in the dark. I wasn't ever "worried about" Kansas, never will be.

No, it's called having a brain. The Kansas Jayhawks weren't being left out of a BCS conference. Heck, reports are coming out now they were in and OSU was out. Sometimes jealousy and hatred blinds common sense. This was another prime example.

 

[skyvue]

No, it's called having a brain. The Kansas Jayhawks weren't being left out of a BCS conference. Heck, reports are coming out now they were in and OSU was out. Sometimes jealousy and hatred blinds common sense. This was another prime example.

Why would OU be jealous of ku as regards the recent conference-related machinations? There's one sport in which OU might envy ku, but overall, OU doesn't need to give ku a thought and they certainly didn't need to during the recent negotiations. Jealous? Of what?

 

[BanjoCharley]

No, it's called having a brain. The Kansas Jayhawks weren't being left out of a BCS conference. Heck, reports are coming out now they were in and OSU was out. Sometimes jealousy and hatred blinds common sense. This was another prime example.

My post was a prime example of jealousy and hatred? You are fooling yourself.

 

[Cheno]

My post was a prime example of jealousy and hatred? You are fooling yourself.

No, I meant the hilarious few that were starting thread after thread, poll after poll about KU being left out in the cold. Sorry, should have clarified.