Lauren Cox

[ielle]

Let be honest Cox is the only reason that team made it to state.There was other player on her team last year and that kid is TAMU commerce.Mulkey had a great team that she played a great role for.Cox is one of the selfless kid in the area.She a class act and come from a wonderful family.It has been a pleasure watching her the past 8 years.Some people know basketball and some people just watch basketball. Skillserve good job this summer with the girls.

 

[sybarite]

Excellent evaluation, Syb. But it is a waste of time.

We have several on the board who dislike everything about OU's team. In their claims:

1. OU will lose many more games than last year.
2. They have lousy coaching.
3. They are lousy recruiters.
4. They will finish lower than last year.
5. It is highly likely they will not beat Baylor even once over the next 5 years.
6. They have mostly lousy players.
7. Their recruits are lousy and the only reason we get them is because no one else will offer them a scholarship.

However, I think they are wrong. And we will see before long. I predict Sherri will really be inducted into the Hall of Fame - further evidence she is a great coach. And I think we will play well this year. And I think we will beat Baylor several times over the next few years. And I think Nancy will turn out to be an excellent player for us - and will be loved by the vast majority of OU fans.

Sherri was voted into the Hall of Fame at their meetings this year and will be installed next year.

It does seem that we have a lot of "fans" who are negative toward Sherri. I would suggest that if it were not for Sherri, there would be no OU Women's Basketball board. OU fans don't follow losing teams, and I don't think we would have formed a board around a team that had only been ton one NCAA tournament, losing in the first round.

I regard it as somewhat like politics. If you let these attitudes go unchallenged, people get the idea that they are truth---that OU is bad, the players are second-rate, and Sherri is a bad coach who is difficult for recruits to get along with. OU is probably the worst team in the nation, and I have no idea why they have been to sixteen straight NCAA berths.

You would think that they might regard her selection to the Hall of Fame might be enough. Geno even praised her as what was good for basketball.

But, then, they prefer someone that the Washington Post and ESPN women's analyst said was bad for women's basketball.

 

[sybarite]

Let be honest Cox is the only reason that team made it to state.There was other player on her team last year and that kid is TAMU commerce.Mulkey had a great team that she played a great role for.Cox is one of the selfless kid in the area.She a class act and come from a wonderful family.It has been a pleasure watching her the past 8 years.Some people know basketball and some people just watch basketball. Skillserve go job this summer with the girls.

If Mulkey's team was so great, why did they fall behind every time that Nancy was benched in the state playoffs? Cypress Woods without Mulkey---not a playoff team.

I would love to have seen what would have happened had they switched teams.

 

[skilledserv]

If Mulkey's team was so great, why did they fall behind every time that Nancy was benched in the state playoffs? Cypress Woods without Mulkey---not a playoff team.

I would love to have seen what would have happened had they switched teams.

Not sure what you were watching......but woods never trailed while playing in San Antonio.

Ogumike actually had offers from multiple big 12 schools but that was a package deal going to pepperdine and they are20 minutes from Neka.

I am not here to tell you your coach is good or bad, just here to tell you the truth. Earlier you said no one on Cy woods team would play in the big 12 when there actually 3 big 12 kids and one SEC kid. I personally think that's a great team for high school.

She does not protect the rim the way you would think a 6'9 kid would and i saw that all summer. Her summer team had the Cal Stars beat in April because they benched Mulkey in the second half. Politics made the coach put her back in the game with 3 minutes left while cy fair was winning by 11. Well Cy Fair lost the game by 14 after they put her back in.
The second time they played was at Nike nationals and Mulkey played the whole game.....well Cy Fair lost that game by 31.

I will tell you this also...... A team with Llaunausa, Jonah, jade Williams, and Charlie Collier lost a game in Tennessee by 68 points and by the way, the team they lost to had only won 1 EYBL game.

I'm just telling you this because i watch the games in person and not online or just reading about them on Twitter

 

[Mac]

Hey skilledserv welcome to the board... Can I ask how good Sedona Prince is? Do you know of top Texas kids looking at OU?

 

[sybarite]

Not sure what you were watching......but woods never trailed while playing in San Antonio.

Ogumike actually had offers from multiple big 12 schools but that was a package deal going to pepperdine and they are20 minutes from Neka.

I am not here to tell you your coach is good or bad, just here to tell you the truth. Earlier you said no one on Cy woods team would play in the big 12 when there actually 3 big 12 kids and one SEC kid. I personally think that's a great team for high school.

She does not protect the rim the way you would think a 6'9 kid would and i saw that all summer. Her summer team had the Cal Stars beat in April because they benched Mulkey in the second half. Politics made the coach put her back in the game with 3 minutes left while cy fair was winning by 11. Well Cy Fair lost the game by 14 after they put her back in.
The second time they played was at Nike nationals and Mulkey played the whole game.....well Cy Fair lost that game by 31.

I will tell you this also...... A team with Llaunausa, Jonah, jade Williams, and Charlie Collier lost a game in Tennessee by 68 points and by the way, the team they lost to had only won 1 EYBL game.

I'm just telling you this because i watch the games in person and not online or just reading about them on Twitter

1. Name the Big Twelve kids playing for Cypress Woods. They sent one to Pepperdine. They sent one to Tulsa. Who did they send to the Big Twelve?
2. Don't bother discussing the CyFair team. I watched them. Poorly coached.
3. Ogwumike's sisters were good. She is not a Big Twelve quality player. She and her guards were breakout scorers because they had two kids inside that enabled them to operate, and they kept the ball themselves.
4. Quite simply, Cypress Woods probably does not make the state tournament without Mulkey.

I will edit to add this. I will agree only that the Cy-Fair team had a whole lot of talent that was never a team. Or, there is another possibility. The talent on that team is highly overrated. I watched several highly-rated recruits play in a couple of Cy-Fair games, and they looked horrible. Hardly anyone on the team looked competent. I think some of it is that the players were somewhat overrated. But, there was no attempt to make that into a team. Some of the other AAU teams were teams. Do you evaluate prospects for their abilities in a playground atmosphere?

Did you not watch SA as Amber Ramirez started out by hitting about four or five threes early as they took a lead over Cypress Woods? Want to go back and look at the scores when Mulkey was on the floor as compared to when she wasn't? Then, do the same for the final game against Skyline.

 

[skilledserv]

1. Name the Big Twelve kids playing for Cypress Woods. They sent one to Pepperdine. They sent one to Tulsa. Who did they send to the Big Twelve?
2. Don't bother discussing the CyFair team. I watched them. Poorly coached.
3. Ogwumike's sisters were good. She is not a Big Twelve quality player. She and her guards were breakout scorers because they had two kids inside that enabled them to operate, and they kept the ball themselves.
4. Quite simply, Cypress Woods probably does not make the state tournament without Mulkey.

I will edit to add this. I will agree only that the Cy-Fair team had a whole lot of talent that was never a team. Or, there is another possibility. The talent on that team is highly overrated. I watched several highly-rated recruits play in a couple of Cy-Fair games, and they looked horrible. Hardly anyone on the team looked competent. I think some of it is that the players were somewhat overrated. But, there was no attempt to make that into a team. Some of the other AAU teams were teams. Do you evaluate prospects for their abilities in a playground atmosphere?

Did you not watch SA as Amber Ramirez started out by hitting about four or five threes early as they took a lead over Cypress Woods? Want to go back and look at the scores when Mulkey was on the floor as compared to when she wasn't? Then, do the same for the final game against Skyline.

Amber is a top 10 kid in the country that can shoot the hell out the ball. I really don't think you watched the game though because Amber was the problem and there is nothing Mulkey could or would do about it.

As far as the Cy fair team......i know you did not watch them play because what you have just said is really really off track. That same Cy fair team you are taking about lost in the final four to the Nike national champions. Mulkey had 2 points and 3 rebounds in that game. The other team in the championship game, Cy fair beat them by 16 points.

Cate Reese has an OFFER from every Big 12 team except for Baylor. Mulkey is going to OU and Ogumike had offers from all Big 12 schools except Baylor. Also please don't say that Erica was just a shooter on that team. She was second on the team in rebounding behind Reese. Mulkey was 3rd on that team in rebounding.

Again sir/mam i evaluate a lot of kids around the country....but i really concentrate on the Texas kids. If you were to tell me something about Jonah or Dungee i would have to listen because they are from Oklahoma. I would and could tell you what i saw over the summer but that's it. I actually sit in on Cy Woods practices last year. I sit in on a lot of high school practices here in Houston.

 

[skilledserv]

Hey skilledserv welcome to the board... Can I ask how good Sedona Prince is? Do you know of top Texas kids looking at OU?

I'm a little bias when it comes to Prince..... I've been watching her since the 7th grade and she has always been a project. Now she is really doing great and by the end of the summer she was out playing every post on Cy Fair's team. What's even more amazing is this kid never played basketball until middle school.

I think there best chance at the top kids would have been Richards because she would have brought in Kayla Owens and maybe Patterson. This is one of the reasons why you see Kansas on Richards list. Coach Damitria at KU is from Houston area and is friends with Owens and Richards trainer. Now i still think it's a long shot for them to go to KU but it is on there mind for sure.

 

[sybarite]

Amber is a top 10 kid in the country that can shoot the hell out the ball. I really don't think you watched the game though because Amber was the problem and there is nothing Mulkey could or would do about it.

As far as the Cy fair team......i know you did not watch them play because what you have just said is really really off track. That same Cy fair team you are taking about lost in the final four to the Nike national champions. Mulkey had 2 points and 3 rebounds in that game. The other team in the championship game, Cy fair beat them by 16 points.

Cate Reese has an OFFER from every Big 12 team except for Baylor. Mulkey is going to OU and Ogumike had offers from all Big 12 schools except Baylor. Also please don't say that Erica was just a shooter on that team. She was second on the team in rebounding behind Reese. Mulkey was 3rd on that team in rebounding.

Again sir/mam i evaluate a lot of kids around the country....but i really concentrate on the Texas kids. If you were to tell me something about Jonah or Dungee i would have to listen because they are from Oklahoma. I would and could tell you what i saw over the summer but that's it. I actually sit in on Cy Woods practices last year. I sit in on a lot of high school practices here in Houston.

I know exactly what I saw, and they could not handle Amber. She's a guard, not Mulkey's role. No, she couldn't stop a guard from shooting wide-open threes when she is under the basket. Amber cooled.

I watched Cypress Woods three times. All of their guards, including Ogwumike, were somewhat over-rated. I made the remark that she was not a real shooter. I doubt that she shot forty percent, and she had a lot of layups due to fast breaks. She also was not the world's best ball handler.

I watched the CyFair team get absolutely destroyed by a team out of Chicago or somewhere in the upper midwest. They had a bunch of big names on the team. But, those big names did nothing right while the game was on the line. The Chicago guards stole the ball from a highly-rated Texas guard almost at will. They drove to the rim almost at will. They shot better. The CyFair team had some big name players who did nothing until about eight minutes left in the game, at which time they scored a lot of points late, closing the gap to maybe ten or fifteen points. But, they scored at junk time. From what I have seen of AAU ball, it is a rather poor place to get a read on anything other than how athletic one player is against another.

I mentioned that the second best player on the Cypress Woods team was a freshman forward (Reese). I am not yet sure that she is Big Twelve quality, but she is a possibility. She has some tools that look good. But, none of the guards were good enough for an OU scholarship.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Amber is a top 10 kid in the country that can shoot the hell out the ball. I really don't think you watched the game though because Amber was the problem and there is nothing Mulkey could or would do about it.

As far as the Cy fair team......i know you did not watch them play because what you have just said is really really off track. That same Cy fair team you are taking about lost in the final four to the Nike national champions. Mulkey had 2 points and 3 rebounds in that game. The other team in the championship game, Cy fair beat them by 16 points.

Cate Reese has an OFFER from every Big 12 team except for Baylor. Mulkey is going to OU and Ogumike had offers from all Big 12 schools except Baylor. Also please don't say that Erica was just a shooter on that team. She was second on the team in rebounding behind Reese. Mulkey was 3rd on that team in rebounding.

Again sir/mam i evaluate a lot of kids around the country....but i really concentrate on the Texas kids. If you were to tell me something about Jonah or Dungee i would have to listen because they are from Oklahoma. I would and could tell you what i saw over the summer but that's it. I actually sit in on Cy Woods practices last year. I sit in on a lot of high school practices here in Houston.

You are getting a glimpse of what this board has suffered through for years. There are a couple who think they know basketball but don't. It's obvious that you and jelle do and your input is greatly appreciated!

 

[sybarite]

You are getting a glimpse of what this board has suffered through for years. There are a couple who think they know basketball but don't. It's obvious that you and jelle do and your input is greatly appreciated!

You appreciate those who do not support OU, or contradict those who do.

 

[SOONERGRAD]

I think that skilledserv has the advantage of watching the Houston teams play seeing how he/she lives in the Houston area. Welcome to the board by the way.

I will say that I have not seen a lot of Texas HS basketball but I have seen some teams like Dunvanville, McKinney Boyd,Flower Mound, Manvel, CyPress Woods , Wagner to name a few. I did watch the championship game when cypress woods played skyline. This was my first time ever watching Mulkey play and I would say she is a project right now. That is not a bad thing! You can't teach 6'9 but you can most certainly coach it! She will be just fine in college once she gets her reps and gets in the weight room but I do not expect her to have a MAJOR impact as soon as she gets on campus like some are making it seem.

Also, Syb what is a "Quailty Big 12 player"? As far as I know, I didn't think the big 12 recruited specific peope to play in their league? If you can play you can you! Bottom line! It does not matter the conference, team, etc. It is all about whatever the best fit is.

Ogumike by far carried that team in the championship( from what I saw) yes Nancy is a difference maker but she is 6'9! Those don't come around very often.
Maybe my view on evaluations is slightly different from others but I give credit when credit is due. That cypress woods TEAM last year was good and deserved the accolades they received. 1 person cannot win you a championship. Cox lead her to as far as she could. She cannot do it all. By the way, when did Cox say she wanted to be the "star"? I have never heard that come out of her mouth or seen it anywhere. Cox is a class act and humble as ever and I wish her the very best at Baylor.

 

[SoonerNorm]

I'm a little bias when it comes to Prince..... I've been watching her since the 7th grade and she has always been a project. Now she is really doing great and by the end of the summer she was out playing every post on Cy Fair's team. What's even more amazing is this kid never played basketball until middle school.

I think there best chance at the top kids would have been Richards because she would have brought in Kayla Owens and maybe Patterson. This is one of the reasons why you see Kansas on Richards list. Coach Damitria at KU is from Houston area and is friends with Owens and Richards trainer. Now i still think it's a long shot for them to go to KU but it is on there mind for sure.

There have been some various opinions offered about Jade Williams. Is she over-rated at #19 in the country?

Do you like Lexi Gordon or Kayla Owens better and why?

Thanks!

 

[soonerstar]

you are getting a glimpse of what this board has suffered through for years. There are a couple who think they know basketball but don't. It's obvious that you and jelle do and your input is greatly appreciated!

+1,000!

 

[sybarite]

I think that skilledserv has the advantage of watching the Houston teams play seeing how he/she lives in the Houston area. Welcome to the board by the way.

I will say that I have not seen a lot of Texas HS basketball but I have seen some teams like Dunvanville, McKinney Boyd,Flower Mound, Manvel, CyPress Woods , Wagner to name a few. I did watch the championship game when cypress woods played skyline. This was my first time ever watching Mulkey play and I would say she is a project right now. That is not a bad thing! You can't teach 6'9 but you can most certainly coach it! She will be just fine in college once she gets her reps and gets in the weight room but I do not expect her to have a MAJOR impact as soon as she gets on campus like some are making it seem.

Also, Syb what is a "Quailty Big 12 player"? As far as I know, I didn't think the big 12 recruited specific peope to play in their league? If you can play you can you! Bottom line! It does not matter the conference, team, etc. It is all about whatever the best fit is.

Ogumike by far carried that team in the championship( from what I saw) yes Nancy is a difference maker but she is 6'9! Those don't come around very often.
Maybe my view on evaluations is slightly different from others but I give credit when credit is due. That cypress woods TEAM last year was good and deserved the accolades they received. 1 person cannot win you a championship. Cox lead her to as far as she could. She cannot do it all. By the way, when did Cox say she wanted to be the "star"? I have never heard that come out of her mouth or seen it anywhere. Cox is a class act and humble as ever and I wish her the very best at Baylor.

Mulkey is a project in a sense. She is a risk in a sense. The fact is that I have seen a lot of the top prospects in Texas, and nearly all are "projects." I'll discuss that after 11/11.

Mulkey brings height, but not in the DeHaan sense. She is actually very good with her hands. She is more adept with her feet than I had anticipated. She can, like Courtney, place her hands accurately on a ball and block it or steal it. She brings the ability to block shots on both sides of the lane without moving. What made Cypress Woods so tough was that the other team's offense became in disarray when Mulkey was on the court.

Quality? You know what quality means. Is someone good enough to play in the Big Twelve, or in the Big Twelve and start? How many Tulsa University players would have started at OU? You might find one a year that would start at OU. At the other four positions, OU wins.

Do you think Ogwumike would have started at OU? On what basis? What did she bring that was good enough to compete in the Big Twelve? There are a lot better shooters. You don't recruit guards as rebounders. Was she a great ball-handler?

Skilledserv made the remark that:
---CyFair was leading by 11 points
---three minutes left in the game
---due to politics, they inserted Mulkey
---CyFair lost by 14.

What? Did the Governor of Texas require CyFair to play Mulkey? What politics forced them to play Mulkey?

Now, let's look at that score again. The opposition outscored CyFair by 25 points in three minutes? Really? How many times have you seen even a pro team score twenty-five points in three minutes? They don't even do that in the pro All-Star game, and they don't play defense and can shoot.

I get it. Skilledserv doesn't like Mulkey. Sounds like he belongs with a lot of people on this board who put down OU recruits and Sherri.

 

[SoonerNorm]

I think that skilledserv has the advantage of watching the Houston teams play seeing how he/she lives in the Houston area. Welcome to the board by the way.

I will say that I have not seen a lot of Texas HS basketball but I have seen some teams like Dunvanville, McKinney Boyd,Flower Mound, Manvel, CyPress Woods , Wagner to name a few. I did watch the championship game when cypress woods played skyline. This was my first time ever watching Mulkey play and I would say she is a project right now. That is not a bad thing! You can't teach 6'9 but you can most certainly coach it! She will be just fine in college once she gets her reps and gets in the weight room but I do not expect her to have a MAJOR impact as soon as she gets on campus like some are making it seem.

Also, Syb what is a "Quailty Big 12 player"? As far as I know, I didn't think the big 12 recruited specific peope to play in their league? If you can play you can you! Bottom line! It does not matter the conference, team, etc. It is all about whatever the best fit is.

Ogumike by far carried that team in the championship( from what I saw) yes Nancy is a difference maker but she is 6'9! Those don't come around very often.
Maybe my view on evaluations is slightly different from others but I give credit when credit is due. That cypress woods TEAM last year was good and deserved the accolades they received. 1 person cannot win you a championship. Cox lead her to as far as she could. She cannot do it all. By the way, when did Cox say she wanted to be the "star"? I have never heard that come out of her mouth or seen it anywhere. Cox is a class act and humble as ever and I wish her the very best at Baylor.

Your opinion of Mulkey is the same as mine. She plays soft right now and she is not strong. I am hoping that Sherri will have her working overtime in the weight room and the extra strength will give her the motivation to play like she owns the paint. We need for her to make those transformations and dominate the inside at OU. She needs to control the boards and get a ton of put backs.

I asked the same question as you about Cox wanting to be the star. Personally, I think that is complete BS. Funny thing about that, if Cox would have committed to OU, that would never have been posted. Instead, it was brought up only after she committed to Baylor. In fact, all of the drivel about Cox was only brought up by the haters after she eliminated OU from consideration. The truth is, she is an amazing talent and we will see that over the next 4 years.

 

[soonerstar]

Norm, you are spot on. Cox really is not as good as we thought since she committed to Baylor. Yeah, right! Remember, Coale says she gets the players she is supposed to get. That is a cop out for not getting many highly recruited players.

 

[Mac]

I'm a little bias when it comes to Prince..... I've been watching her since the 7th grade and she has always been a project. Now she is really doing great and by the end of the summer she was out playing every post on Cy Fair's team. What's even more amazing is this kid never played basketball until middle school.

I think there best chance at the top kids would have been Richards because she would have brought in Kayla Owens and maybe Patterson. This is one of the reasons why you see Kansas on Richards list. Coach Damitria at KU is from Houston area and is friends with Owens and Richards trainer. Now i still think it's a long shot for them to go to KU but it is on there mind for sure.

thanks for the Info, I noticed that Prince has moved up the rankings and is now number 4 in her class... I've heard that Mulkey and Richards are best friends... maybe that'll help her look at OU.

 

[sybarite]

Norm, you are spot on. Cox really is not as good as we thought since she committed to Baylor. Yeah, right! Remember, Coale says she gets the players she is supposed to get. That is a cop out for not getting many highly recruited players.

Nonsense. Go back and look through the board and find someone that didn't want Cox to come to OU. Some of the accusations are simply interpretations of someone's statements. Not everyone thought, as a couple did, that Cox was the answer to the world's problems. It was curious that she wasn't a starter on the U-19 team this year, but she wasn't a year or so ago when we won. Yet, she was the best player the US had in the final game. It is also curious that Flower Mound was waylaid by Skyline. But, nobody said they didn't want Cox.

 

[Mac]

I think Mulkey has some skills, and will get better while in college... I don't think anyone here hates Mulkey that's really going over board. Mulkey has a nice mid rang game, at 6'9 she'll give other teams fits....

Cox can shoot from pretty much everwhere but 3, I think if all 3 of there post players stay they will try and play Cox at the small forward with Brown and mompremier inside.