Matt Pilgrim suspended "indefinitely"

Yep, a long-time coach who was run out of town and his (son) assistant, who plead out to criminal charges, ran a perfectly clean program. Seriously? You can't obey "real" laws, but for sure obey NCAA rules. Whatever.
 
Those guys were suspended. Most of the OSU guys faced minimal suspensions. Terell Harris didn't mis a game. I don't believe Dove missed one as well. Bowling was a drug dealer and is back playing, Blatnick nearly took a guys Eye out. Tiny, Fitz, and Pledger all missed games. Brown suspended for season. Everett missed a tourney game, his last. I don't get your point.

Dusty Divorchec (sp) nearly killed a person. Ryan Broyals stole gas and was redshirted.

Bowling missed a year and is no longer on scholly. Harris and Dove were punished. The guy Blatnick hit didn't even press charges.

You can do this all day long, but kids screw up at every school and at both schools they have been punished.
 
Dusty Divorchec (sp) nearly killed a person. Ryan Broyals stole gas and was redshirted.

Bowling missed a year and is no longer on scholly. Harris and Dove were punished. The guy Blatnick hit didn't even press charges.

You can do this all day long, but kids screw up at every school and at both schools they have been punished.

I couldn't agree with you more on this point... BTW even though this is a basketball board, what have you heard about the Blackmon stuff?
 
Dusty Divorchec (sp) nearly killed a person. Ryan Broyals stole gas and was redshirted.

Bowling missed a year and is no longer on scholly. Harris and Dove were punished. The guy Blatnick hit didn't even press charges.

You can do this all day long, but kids screw up at every school and at both schools they have been punished.

The orignal premise wasn't about the schools, it was about the legal system in Payne county. They all see the same judge, and all have the same defense lawyer who is a very expensive guy. So let's debate that if you want to.
 
are teams allowed to pay for lawyers, and if not shouldn't it be an illegal benefit if any lawyer does pro-bono for any college athletes?
 
Lawyers do pro bono work for all types of people. I believe it's not an impermissible benefit if it's available to students who aren't athletes, as well.
 
Lawyers do pro bono work for all types of people. I believe it's not an impermissible benefit if it's available to students who aren't athletes, as well.

So then will this guy defend Eskimo Joe Blow Ag Student if he gets a DUI?
 
Lawyers do pro bono work for all types of people. I believe it's not an impermissible benefit if it's available to students who aren't athletes, as well.

A local businessman might be generous enough to pay a pre-med student or a history major a generous hourly rate for a no-show summer job, just to show support for a promising young scholar, but that doesn't mean he'd be allowed to do the same for an athlete.
 
Either way I know it's not a violation.

Ricky Clemons had a lawyer represent him pro bono several years ago at Mizzou. This was just prior to the NCAA investigation. That was never even discussed as a possible violation, and it was out in the open (like this is). Whatever the reason, it's not a violation.
 
Either way I know it's not a violation.

Ricky Clemons had a lawyer represent him pro bono several years ago at Mizzou. This was just prior to the NCAA investigation. That was never even discussed as a possible violation, and it was out in the open (like this is). Whatever the reason, it's not a violation.

If its not a violation then its just being smart, getting the best lawyer possible. By the way Pilgrim is unsuspended Wed. per Ford.
 
If its not a violation then its just being smart, getting the best lawyer possible. By the way Pilgrim is unsuspended Wed. per Ford.

Darrell williams took advantage tonight...15 pts, 15 rebounds, 6 assists.
 
He's a nice big, with a little perimeter skills.

I'm pretty sure Ford doesn't want his 6'7" 240 LB. banger outside chucking up 3's. But it was a nice debut for him, maybe put a little fire to feet of Moses & Pilgrim if they want to keep their spot in the lineup especially with Shaw's performance.
 
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