Mitchell Fing Solomon

[DenverSooner]

O points and 2 rebounds. That dude is All Conference. He makes slow look skilled.

 

[MercedeSooner]

lol. My boy Lattin eats crap like him for breakfast.

 

[Laxtothemax12]

Best player on the court tonight.

 

[HeismanWatch]

OSU's talent either didn't show up or they are overrated, outside of Evans, of course. Didn't see much from them like in the past. OU was asleep at the wheel in key stretches of the game, allowing them back into the game. Perhaps, they are tired and need to get their legs back under them.

 

[DenverSooner]

This kid is special. He was perhaps the 12rh or 13th most important player on the court today. I am actually glad that kid went to OSU because I don't see him doing much in his career.

 

[bgrch1350]

This kid is special. He was perhaps the 12rh or 13th most important player on the court today. I am actually glad that kid went to OSU because I don't see him doing much in his career.

Whether you're glad he went to OSU or not is irrelevant...he's not playing for OU. He's playing for a coach that brought their 2nd best player in the game after Allen came in and around the 6 minute mark in the first half.

He shot the ball one time and it was a 3 point shot with no time on the shot clock and every time he went for a rebound it was him versus 4 red shirts. And when him and Olivier was in the game together he was always up at the 3 point line. You guys hammer Solomon like he sucks but Lattin is playing for a coach that allows him to shoot and puts another post player next to him to help defend and doesn't put him up at the 3 point line.

Lattin is a solid player who is getting better every game. I like his game. I'm glad we have him. I've never not said I don't like his game. I won't waiver from liking Solomon though just b/c his numbers aren't good. He hustles and plays hard. And Lattin is going to be a double double machine for OU by the time he leaves here b/c he coached by a great coach and Solomon will average the same type of numbers as he does b/c he is coached by a crappy coach.

 

[BCSooners]

Whether you're glad he went to OSU or not is irrelevant...he's not playing for OU. He's playing for a coach that brought their 2nd best player in the game after Allen came in and around the 6 minute mark in the first half.

He shot the ball one time and it was a 3 point shot with no time on the shot clock and every time he went for a rebound it was him versus 4 red shirts. And when him and Olivier was in the game together he was always up at the 3 point line. You guys hammer Solomon like he sucks but Lattin is playing for a coach that allows him to shoot and puts another post player next to him to help defend and doesn't put him up at the 3 point line.

Lattin is a solid player who is getting better every game. I like his game. I'm glad we have him. I've never not said I don't like his game. I won't waiver from liking Solomon though just b/c his numbers aren't good. He hustles and plays hard. And Lattin is going to be a double double machine for OU by the time he leaves here b/c he coached by a great coach and Solomon will average the same type of numbers as he does b/c he is coached by a crappy coach.

Does Ford tell him not to get defensive rebounds too?

 

[Zimwillett]

Does Ford tell him not to get defensive rebounds too?

That's a statistic, and is wholly irrelevant to this discussion. The only thing that matters is the subjective, and non-verifiable, assertion that Ford doesn't properly use his big men, and if Solomon played for another coach, he would be much better.

 

[CoachTalk]

That's a statistic, and is wholly irrelevant to this discussion. The only thing that matters is the subjective, and non-verifiable, assertion that Ford doesn't properly use his big men, and if Solomon played for another coach, he would be much better.

On the D2 Level.

 

[Laxtothemax12]

Whether you're glad he went to OSU or not is irrelevant...he's not playing for OU. He's playing for a coach that brought their 2nd best player in the game after Allen came in and around the 6 minute mark in the first half.

He shot the ball one time and it was a 3 point shot with no time on the shot clock and every time he went for a rebound it was him versus 4 red shirts. And when him and Olivier was in the game together he was always up at the 3 point line. You guys hammer Solomon like he sucks but Lattin is playing for a coach that allows him to shoot and puts another post player next to him to help defend and doesn't put him up at the 3 point line.

Lattin is a solid player who is getting better every game. I like his game. I'm glad we have him. I've never not said I don't like his game. I won't waiver from liking Solomon though just b/c his numbers aren't good. He hustles and plays hard. And Lattin is going to be a double double machine for OU by the time he leaves here b/c he coached by a great coach and Solomon will average the same type of numbers as he does b/c he is coached by a crappy coach.

I just have a hard time believing this. If a dude can ball, eventually he's gonna ball out.

 

[DenverSooner]

Does Ford tell him not to get defensive rebounds too?

Does Ford tell him not to get garbage points?

The guy took two shots. He had two rebounds (one on each end), no steals, no blocks and no assists. He was the least effective player on his team that played significant minutes and arguably in the entire game.

Lets look at some guys that didn't play much or do a whole lot. James had a steal in 5 minutes. He did not miss, shots, turn the ball over or commit a foul. A solid argument could be made that he was more effective in his five minutes.

Buford only played 10 minutes. He out rebounded Solomon and missed one less shot. He did have one more foul. An argument could be made he was more effective.

Manyang play six minutes. He had a rebound and a block. He did have a turn over and three fouls. More importantly he impacted some other shots. An argument could be made he was more effective than Solomon.

Walker played 9 minutes, had 3 points, 1 rebound and 1 assist. He was clearly more effective than Solomon.

It is crystal clear to anyone with a clue that the five starters for OU were vastly more effective than Solomon. Additionally, it is obvious that Hammons, Evans, Newberry, Carroll and Olivier were way more effective than Solomon.

Anthony Allen was also more effective than Solomon grabbing one rebound in three minutes.

I do think you could strongly support an argument that Solomon was ore effective than Shine but not by much.

The guy is simply not that good compared to other Big XII players. He is an outstanding basketball player compared to the general population. For you to state he was way bette than Lattin is foolish.

Now if you want to say the guy is getting hurt by Ford, I have no beef with that statement. Every person that goes to OSU makes a poor decision. Those that play basketball for Travis Ford make a really poor decision.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

For you to state he was way bette than Lattin is foolish.

Now if you want to say the guy is getting hurt by Ford, I have no beef with that statement. Every person that goes to OSU makes a poor decision. Those that play basketball for Travis Ford make a really poor decision.

i don't know if bgrch pissed in everybody's cereal or what but you guys are really making a mountain out of a mole hill and making arguments against things that he never stated.

On december 14, based on last year and the few games from this year, brgch stated he would rather have solomon than lattin. That is pretty much it. Their stats were pretty dang close last year and up to 12/14 of this year. And the per 40 numbers somebody was throwing out were not accurate.

Last year per 40:
Lattin: 6.7 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1 apg, 1.2 spg, 3.1 bpg
Solomon: 4.4 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.2 bpg

So yeah, lattins numbers were slightly better on a per 40. But it is close and when you are looking at role players that only played 10 minutes a game, the differences are negligible...esp when considering one plays for Ford.

Not sure why I'm white knighting for brgch

I think this is a case where people don't like a poster and pile on them for something pretty small. I think there are three threads about this on the front page after we won a bedlam game is stillwater. really guys?

 

[DenverSooner]

i don't know if bgrch pissed in everybody's cereal or what but you guys are really making a mountain out of a mole hill and making arguments against things that he never stated.

On december 14, based on last year and the few games from this year, brgch stated he would rather have solomon than lattin. That is pretty much it. Their stats were pretty dang close last year and up to 12/14 of this year. And the per 40 numbers somebody was throwing out were not accurate.

Last year per 40:
Lattin: 6.7 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1 apg, 1.2 spg, 3.1 bpg
Solomon: 4.4 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.2 bpg

So yeah, lattins numbers were slightly better on a per 40. But it is close and when you are looking at role players that only played 10 minutes a game, the differences are negligible...esp when considering one plays for Ford.

Not sure why I'm white knighting for brgch

I think this is a case where people don't like a poster and pile on them for something pretty small. I think there are three threads about this on the front page after we won a bedlam game is stillwater. really guys?

No it isn't. He said Solomon was way better and would start at OU.

I mostly just think it is funny. I think brgch is a decent guy that simply said something I strongly disagree with. To the extent it bothers me it is just that I think OU fans should have the OU player's backs not the OSU player's.

 

[BoulderSooner]

i don't know if bgrch pissed in everybody's cereal or what but you guys are really making a mountain out of a mole hill and making arguments against things that he never stated.

On december 14, based on last year and the few games from this year, brgch stated he would rather have solomon than lattin. That is pretty much it. Their stats were pretty dang close last year and up to 12/14 of this year. And the per 40 numbers somebody was throwing out were not accurate.

Last year per 40:
Lattin: 6.7 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1 apg, 1.2 spg, 3.1 bpg
Solomon: 4.4 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.2 bpg

So yeah, lattins numbers were slightly better on a per 40. But it is close and when you are looking at role players that only played 10 minutes a game, the differences are negligible...esp when considering one plays for Ford.

Not sure why I'm white knighting for brgch

I think this is a case where people don't like a poster and pile on them for something pretty small. I think there are three threads about this on the front page after we won a bedlam game is stillwater. really guys?

a more than 50% better scorer is not close ...

 

[SoonerBounce13]

a more than 50% better scorer is not close ...

1 basket...over 40 minutes....is close

 

[usedtobe1]

Lattin is a much more effective player now than Solomon but maybe Solomon is a round peg in a square hole. Sometimes players just don't fit a system.

After the Bedlam game last night I watched the Clippers and Heat play, and the Clippers were without DeAndre Jordan for the first time in 260 games I think. They started Cole Aldrich who had been a dud for the Knicks. With Chris Paul as his PG, he scored 19 points and had 7 rebounds. Paul knew how and where to give him the ball.

Somehow it made me think of Solomon and this discussion. He's just not a good fit for the Aggies.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

No it isn't. He said Solomon was way better and would start at OU.

and he was wrong and has admitted such. There are tons of things said on this board that have been more off than what brgch said.

To the extent it bothers me it is just that I think OU fans should have the OU player's backs not the OSU player's.

Stating an opinion is not having someone's back? c'mon this is ridiculous.
Id rather have osu's freshman that killed us last night over D. WAlker. Is that ok to say?

 

[DenverSooner]

and he was wrong and has admitted such. There are tons of things said on this board that have been more off than what brgch said.

Stating an opinion is not having someone's back? c'mon this is ridiculous.
Id rather have osu's freshman that killed us last night over D. WAlker. Is that ok to say or does that hurt your feelings?

First you said he never said those things. Now you say he did but admitted he was wrong. Solomon is not very good.

Big difference between a McD AA over a juco role player and it is not an opinion that someone at OSU is better than someone at OU that bothers me. What bothers me is the OU fans that try so hard to not be biased that they are biased against OU. There was nothing from last year to suggest Solomon was better than Lattin let alone way better. I want OU fans to support our guys.

I am not joking when I say stuff about a positive attitude among fans. KU fans have it. Duke fans have it. Kentucky fans have it. It makes the team better.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

First you said he never said those things. Now you say he did but admitted he was wrong. Solomon is not very good.

Big difference between a McD AA over a juco role player and it is not an opinion that someone at OSU is better than someone at OU that bothers me. What bothers me is the OU fans that try so hard to not be biased that they are biased against OU. There was nothing from last year to suggest Solomon was better than Lattin let alone way better. I want OU fans to support our guys.

whatever you say hoss. I'm done talking about solomon vs lattin. You can continue to bring it up in every thread though
because somebody said something you disagree with

I am not joking when I say stuff about a positive attitude among fans. KU fans have it. Duke fans have it. Kentucky fans have it. It makes the team better.

Fans being critical on a message board has no affect on our team. And I'm guessing if you go to any of those schools' message boards, you will see worse stuff than you see here.

If fans positive attitudes on the internet would make our team better, I will go create some sunshine sock accounts stat

 

[bgrch1350]

First you said he never said those things. Now you say he did but admitted he was wrong. Solomon is not very good.

Big difference between a McD AA over a juco role player and it is not an opinion that someone at OSU is better than someone at OU that bothers me. What bothers me is the OU fans that try so hard to not be biased that they are biased against OU. There was nothing from last year to suggest Solomon was better than Lattin let alone way better. I want OU fans to support our guys.

I am not joking when I say stuff about a positive attitude among fans. KU fans have it. Duke fans have it. Kentucky fans have it. It makes the team better.

I did say that he would have started for us over Lattin. Obviously Lattin is getting better and his stats are showing that. I also say that if Lattin was playing for OSU, his stats would look very similar to Solomon's.

I have never not supported Lattin. I've always stated that he was going to start over AK when many of you thought AK was going to start over him. I've never talked bad about Lattin. I didn't get on here and start bashing him for allowing Olivier to dominate him.

I do like Solomon and I think his game is going in the dumpster just like all the other post players that have played for Ford in the past. Jarred Shaw averaged 1.2ppg and 1.2rpg for ford while at OSU as a sophmore. He transferred and averaged 14ppg and 8rpg.