cowboysooner
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Courts properly ruled that you can't tell a kid he can't be a pro and also keep him from making money. Universities wanted to make the money off of their efforts and not have to pay anything but a free education for it. In short, they wanted their cake and eat it to. Their power to dictate this was always illegal in America and finally the Courts caught up to it. The law finally won over power and influence.
This being said, there is nothing that prevents the NCAA from dictating what constitutes "being an amateur" and thus allowing participation in NCAA sports. The NCAA can simply outlaw the receipt of any form of money for playing, including NIL money. This would be perfectly legal provided you also don't forbid them from turning pro whenever they want (at birth if they want) nor prevent them from working while on scholarship.
In all sports, particularly in basketball, you will lose some kids to the pro game right out of high school, but so be it. If we don't see them, we won't miss them.
You just can't and shouldn't be able to make a kid work for you for free and not be able to make a living. You can reserve amateur sports for kids that haven't and aren't getting paid for being an athlete, if you want to. You just can't have it both ways.
BTW, it is worse than you think. There is no law anywhere that provides workers compensation benefits to kids that are injured or disabled during NCAA sporting participation. There is no law and never has been any law that requires a University to pay for the medical expenses of a kid injured while playing and/or practicing for a University. Most major universities do pay for such medical (for their own benefit and to avoid a lawsuit and precedential court cases) but many smaller schools just jerk your scholarship and refuse to pay for the medical expenses. I am a lawyer and have had to represent a couple kids on these matters. I was successful by threatening the schools with a potential a workers compensation case.
Look big school football is big business. Last year I believe OU generated $160mil from its football operation. This is direct income. You also get loyalty that leads to donations and endowments etc. The indirect benefit to a big time football program is mind blowing money/business. Why pay the kids for generating this revenue if you don't have to. More profitable not to.
I say lets go strictly amateur. Let the kids go pro if they want, let them get NIL deals if they want, and restrict NCAA participation to those that don't go that route. Then, obligate universities to pay for medical expenses incurred by kids injured "on the job", provide some measure of money for those disabled due to their participation, and allow them to work if they can while attending school. This would be perfectly legal.
I think this is where we are going by the way. Schools had the best of all worlds to now, but with NIL money going from boosters to kids, they will want that changed. Don't think there is any way to change except as mention above. Money will bring about this I believe.
This being said, there is nothing that prevents the NCAA from dictating what constitutes "being an amateur" and thus allowing participation in NCAA sports. The NCAA can simply outlaw the receipt of any form of money for playing, including NIL money. This would be perfectly legal provided you also don't forbid them from turning pro whenever they want (at birth if they want) nor prevent them from working while on scholarship.
In all sports, particularly in basketball, you will lose some kids to the pro game right out of high school, but so be it. If we don't see them, we won't miss them.
You just can't and shouldn't be able to make a kid work for you for free and not be able to make a living. You can reserve amateur sports for kids that haven't and aren't getting paid for being an athlete, if you want to. You just can't have it both ways.
BTW, it is worse than you think. There is no law anywhere that provides workers compensation benefits to kids that are injured or disabled during NCAA sporting participation. There is no law and never has been any law that requires a University to pay for the medical expenses of a kid injured while playing and/or practicing for a University. Most major universities do pay for such medical (for their own benefit and to avoid a lawsuit and precedential court cases) but many smaller schools just jerk your scholarship and refuse to pay for the medical expenses. I am a lawyer and have had to represent a couple kids on these matters. I was successful by threatening the schools with a potential a workers compensation case.
Look big school football is big business. Last year I believe OU generated $160mil from its football operation. This is direct income. You also get loyalty that leads to donations and endowments etc. The indirect benefit to a big time football program is mind blowing money/business. Why pay the kids for generating this revenue if you don't have to. More profitable not to.
I say lets go strictly amateur. Let the kids go pro if they want, let them get NIL deals if they want, and restrict NCAA participation to those that don't go that route. Then, obligate universities to pay for medical expenses incurred by kids injured "on the job", provide some measure of money for those disabled due to their participation, and allow them to work if they can while attending school. This would be perfectly legal.
I think this is where we are going by the way. Schools had the best of all worlds to now, but with NIL money going from boosters to kids, they will want that changed. Don't think there is any way to change except as mention above. Money will bring about this I believe.
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