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Union up boys. In a capitalist society you are supposed to be compensated for the fruits of your labor. Then you contribute back to society through progressive tax rates. You don't get stiffed up front with your monopoly employer or the customers of your product solely determining the reward for your talent.

Collective bargaining. Get after it fellas.

If Wiggins was paid the $1.6 million he is worth he would stay at Kansas.

Value of scholarship a pittance compared to fair market value denied.
 
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Very complex issue but some additional income should go to the players in money making sports unless they want to maintain amateur status. It is so complex though, that it may cause a major upheaval in the ncaa. That could have undesired consequences. So do ya feel lucky?
 
Darwin said:
Very complex issue but some additional income should go to the players in money making sports unless they want to maintain amateur status. It is so complex though, that it may cause a major upheaval in the ncaa. That could have undesired consequences. So do ya feel lucky?
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It won't have any unintended consequences for the revenue producing talent. As for blowing up the system that denies them fmv under the guise of "student athlete" that should be intended.

Millions of parents pay club dues every year for their kids to play non revenue sports. Why should hollis price be denied his $200k/year so 10 girls on the soccer team can get a scholarship? Let their parents pay.
 
bocabull said:
Millions of parents pay club dues every year for their kids to play non revenue sports. Why should hollis price be denied his $200k/year so 10 girls on the soccer team can get a scholarship? Let their parents pay.
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This weird thing called federal law.
 
Darwin said:
I saw what you did there.....nice
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I would have made an all-encompassing list, but I thought listing those two guys, who I believe are great Sooners, are indicative of the 99 percentile.

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Tyler Neal & Terry Evans are NCAA men's basketball players whose fair market value was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Including them as a comparison to a soccer player is a clown move. But it's to get expected. There are really dumb people out there.
 
JBaker said:
This weird thing called federal law.
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Federal law regarding equility because they are operating under the pretense of student athlete. Change the status to employee & equality will change from scholarship to % of revenue.
 
I love it when boca tries to act smarter than everybody.

It's been his online M.O. for a number of years though. And he is good at it.
 
bocabull said:
Tyler Neal & Terry Evans are NCAA men's basketball players whose fair market value was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Including them as a comparison to a soccer player is a clown move. But it's to get expected. There are really dumb people out there.
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So......you'd rather pay players in football and basketball and get rid of all the other sports than to maintain the status quo?

This kind of argument is stupid. It's going to kill college sports. Most universities LOSE money on sports.
 
WTSooner said:
I love it when boca tries to act smarter than everybody.

It's been his online M.O. for a number of years though. And he is good at it.
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He sent me a pretty hilarious PM the other day. I'm just betting he's a real winner in life.

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We would have to see a complete change in the system. Right now it's set up horribly for a capitalist like structure to really succeed. The moment we pay players the entire system would collapse. It's set up way too much in a socialist matter.
 
NickZepp said:
We would have to see a complete change in the system. Right now it's set up horribly for a capitalist like structure to really succeed. The moment we pay players the entire system would collapse. It's set up way too much in a socialist matter.
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SMH :facepalm
 
If we want to see players get paid then the big money will end up winning in recruiting. Basically the top recruits will always go to who pays them the most. The chances of Oklahoma getting a Blake Griffin ever again are very slim.
 
I think most college athletes are there for the education. Sure some have visions of pro football or basketball but how many really keep those visions through their college career.

So because a few athletes are there as a prep for the pros there is a movement to possibly wipe out the whole system. If boca thinks there will be no unintended consequences his is not looking at reality.

the feds cannot allow Title IX to go away. It would cost them their precious cushy jobs.

there is always an element in every educational setting that would like college sports to go away. If they start losing money or more money than currently that element will come on strong.

My understanding is that OU is profitable in sports to a large degree because of it's large donor base. How many donors will continue to contribute. I'm not a big donor but what I do donate to the athletic department will stop it I have to contribute to an big salary for a union worker.

Also if the costs go up then they will have no alternative to cut costs through fewer scholarships and other negative means. If donor revenue goes down even more cuts will be instituted. Unlike the federal government they have to pay their bills and can't print money or raise taxes to do so.

Maybe the silver lining in the whole thing is that the NCAA would have to go away because they would lose control.
 
I live in a town with a community college. They give partial athletic scholarships in order to fill up their dorms during the school year and attract students to their campus.

They lose money on these sports year after year and that will never change. D1 sports are the same.

The day players get paid for playing sports in collge, college sports as we know them are over. Be careful what you ask for.
 
It's kind of funny, because the current arrangement is much more similar to the outcome of typical collective bargaining agreements. The stars are paid much less then they're worth but the average Joe is paid more than he's worth.

For every Wiggins there's an benchwarmer, or even worse, someone on the women's field hockey team taking a scholarship worth much more than their labor.
 
bocabull said:
Tyler Neal & Terry Evans are NCAA men's basketball players whose fair market value was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Including them as a comparison to a soccer player is a clown move. But it's to get expected. There are really dumb people out there.
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Does OU's basketball program even make money?
 
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