NCAA source: "Unprecedented" penalties against Penn State

[playmakr]

That's not the quote from his Brando interview I'm talking about. He specifically said people who said he wasn't concerned enough about the abuse victims "Could Kiss his ass".

But again, that's not what you said initially.

A buffoon who said people concerned with the victims could "kiss his ass" because the real victims are the players who can't go to bowl games now.

This isn't the same as saying the people who were saying he wasn't concerned about the victims could kiss his ass. If people tried to presume how I was thinking I would also tell them to kiss my ass. He didn't say people concerned with victims could kiss his ass.

It's an idiotic comparison and the clown not only forcefully made it, he said people who did not agree with him could "kiss his ass"

Isn't there a difference between saying people who don't agree with him and people who are concerned with the victims can kiss his ass compared to saying people who are assuming he doesn't care about the victims can kiss his ass?

He seems to be saying he doesn't think the NCAA has the right to punish the players. I don't know about that myself, but I would just throw anyone involved or who knew about it in jail.

 

[DenverSooner]

That's not the quote from his Brando interview I'm talking about. He specifically said people who said he wasn't concerned enough about the abuse victims "Could Kiss his ass".

He then went on the marginalize young boys who were;
forced to give a blow job to a 60 year old man
forced to sleep with him with him going down on them and rubbing them
forced to bend over and receive anal sex in the showers
threatened they would never see their mom again if they told anybody

He equated the abuse victims with football players who are;
allowed to keep their academic scholarship
allowed to continue playing football for Penn State
not allowed to play in a bowl game
allowed to transfer immediately to any other school if they choose

It's an idiotic comparison and the clown not only forcefully made it, he said people who did not agree with him could "kiss his ass"

The NCAA got this one right. 5 years of massive penalties is what Switzer should have received and SMU should have received and all of this crap would stop. The NCAA needs to stiffen their penalties right out of the gate and demolish infractions where any connection to the coaches or administration can be made.

Switzer really marginalized the victims? He is quite experienced with the media so I doubt he did things quite like you are saying.

 

[bocabull]

“We can’t change what the sorry bastard Sandusky did, right? And everybody can have a knee jerk reaction that I’m not thinking about (the victims). They are full of crap. I am still thinking about them. But I am also thinking about the players that wanted to go to Penn State... That’s the school they wanted to go to. They had nothing to do with this. They had done everything right.”

Switzer is saying Sandusky did what he did. Too bad so sad. Now let's be concerned with the real issue which is making sure these football players get everything they want NO MATTER WHAT.

University Presidents had signed off on a 4 year death penalty unless Penn State agreed to this 5 year probation.

Barry needs to stick with selling BBQ sauce, signing autographs and acting the fool cussing on the radio. Nobody of importance takes him seriously. I've stood up for the guy for 30 years but listening to him talk about this issue opened my eyes and I heard him like the all non OU fans have for decades. An embarrassing buffoon.

 

[playmakr]

http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/nfl/barry-switzer-punishing-the-wrong-29728/

Judge for yourself folks. Doesn't sound anything like what Boca is saying. His biggest beef is the penalty doesn't effect the people in involved in the cover up. There really isn't any other way to listen to that segment and come to the conclusions and analysis which Boca did, other than wanting to stir the pot and intentionally be a clown. What Barry said was very well said and made great points. Nothing he said was disrespectful and didn't marginalize in any way the victims. Boca probably thought nobody else listened or would have the chance to listen, lol. His hands have been caught in the cookie jar.

 

[WaymanFan]

Barry needs to stick with selling BBQ sauce, signing autographs and acting the fool cussing on the radio. Nobody of importance takes him seriously. I've stood up for the guy for 30 years but listening to him talk about this issue opened my eyes and I heard him like the all non OU fans have for decades. An embarrassing buffoon.

I'm finding it hard to believe you "stood up for the guy for 30 years" based on the amount of venom you're spewing in this thread about Barry. No one said the guy was perfect, but some of what you're are saying about the man are way over the top for an OU fan.

 

[skyvue]

Barry spoke to what he knows: the experience of the players impacted by the punishment. He's right that few, if any, of the people directly involved in the cover-up are impacted by the NCAA's sanctions. Only innocent parties are impacted.

He might be wrong that this ruling won't have any widespread impact on the culture of college football. He might be wrong -- and frankly, I hope he is -- but I suspect he's on the mark.

But playmakr's right that boca has drastically misrepresented here the nature of Switzer's remarks. He might have been well-advised to spend a bit more time expressing concern and sympathy for the victims, but he was asked on the show to explain the issues he has with the NCAA ruling, and that's just what he did.

 

[bocabull]

He said exactly what I quoted. That people who said he didn't care enough about the victims could "kiss my ass" in the 10 seconds he spent addressing the abuse victims.

Then he goes on for the rest of the interview blaming the media with the same old retread "pied piper" line he has been using for close to 40 years. He blames the NCAA appealing to the anti establishment crowd.

For what? To put the football program and players above all else no matter what. He doesn't get it. Never has, never will. If raping young boys in the shower and covering it up for a decade isn't enough to punish hard, nothing would be.

 

[skyvue]

He said exactly what I quoted.

Here's what you first said:

"[Switzer's] a buffoon who said people concerned with the victims could 'kiss his ass' because the real victims are the players who can't go to bowl games now."

That wasn't what he said at all. Not even close.

And he didn't say -- or even imply -- that the players were the "real victims." What he said was that the NCAA sanctions (and that's what he was there to talk about, not Sandusky's victims) would only impact people who had no role in the cover-up, and he's right. He focused on the players because that's what Brando had him on to talk about, but at no point did he compare the relative impact of Sandusky's actions vis a vis the players and the victims.

You also said he "went on to marginalize young boys who were [victimized]" and that he "equated the abuse victims with football players who are [impacted by the sanctions]."

He did nothing of the kind.

You've either got an agenda against Switzer or you've got the listening equivalent of poor reading comprehension because your characterization of the interview was totally inaccurate.

 

[bocabull]

Skyvue, you attempt to pawn yourself off as bright and objective. Please define and describe the term "quote".

Then give an example where Switzer did not say exactly what I "quoted".

 

[coolm]

Switzer is the king of all he surveys. I'd take a bullet for him, and I will attend his funeral if the ceremony is open to the public.

I love the man.

damn straight

 

[skyvue]

Skyvue, you attempt to pawn yourself off as bright and objective. Please define and describe the term "quote".

Then give an example where Switzer did not say exactly what I "quoted".

Paraphrasings count. This is not a court of law in which a libel case is being heard. You're being called to account for your characterization of Switzer's interview, not merely for the few direct quotes you may have offered. Man up and either stand behind your words or admit you got it wrong.

I am reasonably bright and I certainly try to be objective. I can most certainly see both sides of the argument surrounding the NCAA's actions, and I do think there are criticisms that could reasonably be made of Switzer's statements.

But your posts in this thread, collectively, are a severe distortion of Switzer's on-air conversation with Brando.

 

[DenverSooner]

Well... Were waiting.

Anyone recognize that. Ted Knight said it in which movie?

 

[playmakr]

Well... Were waiting.

Anyone recognize that. Ted Knight said it in which movie?

"The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus belt that night on this stuff."


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