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[sooner8]

I would suggest that the strong majority that follow OU athletics and OU WBB are not historians and don't give a damn about the first statement the world learns about OU WBBabout what happened in 1990 just like they cared little about the national championship Bob Stoops won in 2000. There focus is on what is my football team and WBB program doing today? What championships are they winning today? What changes need to me made to win the conference and natty. Fire anyone that gets in the way of these goals. Goodbye Mike Stoops, goodbye Tim Kish and goodbye Kerry Cooks. Next up could be goodbye Sherri Coale.

I would suspect that there are a hundred to a thousand OU WBB fans that would support terminating Sherri for every 1 that strongly supports retaining her long term.

I personally think she has earned a few more years to fix the problem. But if she can't someone else needs the opportunity to do so.

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Took the words out of my mouth!

 

[Speedy17]

I looked up the University of Oklahoma women's basketball program on Wikipedia. Guess what the first paragraph under History says..



I mean, it's the first paragraph that anyone learns if they want to read about the OU women's basketball team. We had the audacity to terminate the program, waving a red flag in the face of the Spirit of Title IX.

Like that? You may want to forget it. But, it is the first statement that the world learns about OU women's basketball.

It is always interesting about history. OU tries to eliminate the program in 1990 then changes their mind upon Title IX pressure. OU hires Sherri Coale in 1996 and history says that she saved the program so she can't be fired. There was absolutely no way, OU was going to drop the program after the 1990 Title IX response regardless of who coached the program. By the way, you would have thought the program was totally destroyed but Burl Plunkett coached the team to 22-9 and the NCAA second round in 1994-1995.

Sherri did a hell of a job turning around the program. However, women's college basketball is a totally different sport today than it was during the first half of her career at OU. As Sherri said in her halftime interview in the 2017 104-63 loss to Baylor "This did not look like a women's basketball game". That is right, teams are recruiting athletes that can physically play and like the article above states, Sherri wants a bunch of "goodie two shoes." The results are obvious on the court with Sherri saying after every big game, "it is hard to compete with 6'7" or 6'5"." If that is the case, she needs to go recruit a real big. Instead, she doesn't even run Summer camps for Oklahoma kids and possible recruits anymore.

As for firing a HOF coach, the general public will not say much because people expect more when you are making 1.2M or above. The biggest loss on the ledger sheet of the OU Athletic Department is in women's basketball and has been for a long time. I do not care what athletic teams that you are talking about, it is a performance world. If you go 5-27 or 8-24 and average attendance goes from 8K to less than 1K showing up, there is a good possibility that you will be shown the door. Especially when you see an article like the Oklahoman has written above that is attempting to divert the goal from winning not to mention the nepotism that comes with hiring your son whose wife is more qualified for the position. Shoot the Cowboys ran HOF legend coach Tom Landry out of town in a quick decisive move and he had a few Super Bowl Championships under his belt. The loss of Landry was quickly forgotten when they started winning again.

 

[sybarite]

I would suggest that the strong majority that follow OU athletics and OU WBB are not historians and don't give a damn about the first statement the world learns about OU WBBabout what happened in 1990 just like they cared little about the national championship Bob Stoops won in 2000. There focus is on what is my football team and WBB program doing today? What championships are they winning today? What changes need to me made to win the conference and natty. Fire anyone that gets in the way of these goals. Goodbye Mike Stoops, goodbye Tim Kish and goodbye Kerry Cooks. Next up could be goodbye Sherri Coale.

I would suspect that there are a hundred to a thousand OU WBB fans that would support terminating Sherri for every 1 that strongly supports retaining her long term.

I personally think she has earned a few more years to fix the problem. But if she can't someone else needs the opportunity to do so.

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You are presenting the message board version of this, which is curious in itself. If you follow the message boards of most schools, they are cheerleaders of the coach and team.. For some reason, the message boards of OU have usually been negative, complaint boards.

Historical? Too specific. Go read the Wiki article on OU. It is more indicative of what the general public would think than would be that of a message board. It is almost all Sherri.

1) began in 1976, one sentence
2) terminated in 1990, next sentence, just happens to be under history
3) the rest of the article is almost all Sherri Coale, as though the first twenty years didn't exist.

If you were to ask a fan of women's basketball in New York what they knew of OU, what do you think they would know?

I suspect that the message boards may be heavily anti-Sherri, Always have been, didn't like Courtney because of her weight. But, they probably represent a very minor part of the OU program supporters.

 

[SoonerSpock]

As one that looks extensively at the message boards of the top national contenders (traditional blue bloods) in all major sports on a regular bases I can assure you they all are critical of there team and coaches when their team does not perform to the expected standard that the past and present coaches have established.

While far from the perponderance Saban got a few zingers from the Bama fans for his team's performance at the CFP natty this year. Fan dissatisfaction warranted or not goes with the territory.

In Sherri's case she has had some moderate success in the last 6 years. However compared to the standard she set 2000-2010 her team have been on a steady decline for the last 8 years while showing very few signs that a change is forthcoming.

Not now but somewhere down the line someone may need to declare "enough is enough". Hopefully that will never happen but the subject is worthy of discussion as it is on the minds of a multitude of OU WBB fans.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

It is always interesting about history. OU tries to eliminate the program in 1990 then changes their mind upon Title IX pressure. OU hires Sherri Coale in 1996 and history says that she saved the program so she can't be fired. There was absolutely no way, OU was going to drop the program after the 1990 Title IX response regardless of who coached the program. By the way, you would have thought the program was totally destroyed but Burl Plunkett coached the team to 22-9 and the NCAA second round in 1994-1995.

Sherri did a hell of a job turning around the program. However, women's college basketball is a totally different sport today than it was during the first half of her career at OU. As Sherri said in her halftime interview in the 2017 104-63 loss to Baylor "This did not look like a women's basketball game". That is right, teams are recruiting athletes that can physically play and like the article above states, Sherri wants a bunch of "goodie two shoes." The results are obvious on the court with Sherri saying after every big game, "it is hard to compete with 6'7" or 6'5"." If that is the case, she needs to go recruit a real big. Instead, she doesn't even run Summer camps for Oklahoma kids and possible recruits anymore.

As for firing a HOF coach, the general public will not say much because people expect more when you are making 1.2M or above. The biggest loss on the ledger sheet of the OU Athletic Department is in women's basketball and has been for a long time. I do not care what athletic teams that you are talking about, it is a performance world. If you go 5-27 or 8-24 and average attendance goes from 8K to less than 1K showing up, there is a good possibility that you will be shown the door. Especially when you see an article like the Oklahoman has written above that is attempting to divert the goal from winning not to mention the nepotism that comes with hiring your son whose wife is more qualified for the position. Shoot the Cowboys ran HOF legend coach Tom Landry out of town in a quick decisive move and he had a few Super Bowl Championships under his belt. The loss of Landry was quickly forgotten when they started winning again.

I hope you don't believe this. You must not have watched when Tom was inducted into the Ring of Honor.

And those of you eaten up about the salary need to get up to date. So much is spent on salaries today that hers is not all that out of line. I really did have to laugh at the poster who was acting like his donation level would impact the decisions about the program. You have no idea.

My guess is that a possible "next coach" will be brought in as an assistant in the next few years and will be groomed to take over.

We have two main problems this year. First no height in the middle. And second, no effective point guard. Too many games where your point guards have a 0 (zero) assist to turnover ratio is unacceptable. Especially when they also don't score much.

SC does seem to have issues that don't help with the current era of WBB, but it is not her religion causing them.

 

[Speedy17]

I hope you don't believe this. You must not have watched when Tom was inducted into the Ring of Honor.

And those of you eaten up about the salary need to get up to date. So much is spent on salaries today that hers is not all that out of line. I really did have to laugh at the poster who was acting like his donation level would impact the decisions about the program. You have no idea.

My guess is that a possible "next coach" will be brought in as an assistant in the next few years and will be groomed to take over.

We have two main problems this year. First no height in the middle. And second, no effective point guard. Too many games where your point guards have a 0 (zero) assist to turnover ratio is unacceptable. Especially when they also don't score much.

SC does seem to have issues that don't help with the current era of WBB, but it is not her religion causing them.

I hope not. OU needs someone from outside the program who understands that recruiting is the key to success and who makes that a priority. Someone who puts together a staff that is ready to get after it with recruiting. I have heard stories that OU would be recruiting a top player then out of know where, Sherri says we are not recruiting that player anymore. You have to go after athletes like Baylor, Miss State, and yes Texas. It is ironic Aston is terrible coach but she can recruit, X's and O's will not Janices and Jills.

 

[SoonerinNC]

I too think it is more fitting the culture than a religous thing. I have always expected that the team environment is a love fest with a huge emphasis on being a good teammate with high values. Kind of a Kumbaya environment for those who remember that church camp song. Sherri seems to avoid players who may disrupt that environment.

If it were a true religous thing then I would think the emphasis would be to embrace the rough, underpriveleged but talented player and attempt to turn their life around and create a productive person with strong values.

If you read the new testiment that was the direction that Jesus went.

If Sherri wants a winning team next year she needs to be hot after transfers or JUCO's that can help the program next year. Then she needs to recruit a couple of strong inside players for 2020.

After watching her on the barbeque joint programs I think she is in utter shock about how bad things are this year. She appears to be a strong person so maybe she can transform her approach and return to past success. Among her biggest mistakes were recruiting only EJ who clearly should have been considered a project and doing nothing to replace Mulkey after she transfered. Two consecutive years of minus recruiting counting the transfers of Mulkey and Dungee. Then hiring her own son with no coaching background when having an opportunity to go after a Lincoln Riley level person. I think she thought that this would be a good year and he would get no criticism.

 

[SoonerSpock]

My guess is that a possible "next coach" will be brought in as an assistant in the next few years and will be groomed to take over.

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The last thing I would hope for is that the next WBB coach would be brought in as an assistant and groomed by Sherri to take over. To me Joe Castiglione would be shooting himself in the foot.

To me the game of NCAA WBB has made drastic changes in recent years and Sherri has shown and stated she is not going to change with the times. Why would we want that mentality grooming her sucessor?

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

I hope not. OU needs someone from outside the program who understands that recruiting is the key to success and who makes that a priority. Someone who puts together a staff that is ready to get after it with recruiting. I have heard stories that OU would be recruiting a top player then out of know where, Sherri says we are not recruiting that player anymore. You have to go after athletes like Baylor, Miss State, and yes Texas. It is ironic Aston is terrible coach but she can recruit, X's and O's will not Janices and Jills.

You are actually agreeing with me.

As I said, someone will likely be BROUGHT IN and after a bit TAKE OVER. That is obviously not someone "inside" the program today. That has been very common in the OU athletic department. Not 100%, but very common. Just look at Football:

Gomer Jones
Chuck Fairbanks
Barry Switzer
Gary Gibbs
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Lincoln Riley

All "insiders"

Basketball has not always done that, but usually basketball change has been due to issues within the staff. SC has a chance to see the end in sight - even if it is a few years away - and cement her legacy by setting teh stage for teh next era. Will she be wise enough? We will see. As I suggested it is not certain but it is possible.

SC needs to help Colton get a job elsewhere to preserve any possibility of him having a long tern career in WBB.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

I too think it is more fitting the culture than a religous thing. I have always expected that the team environment is a love fest with a huge emphasis on being a good teammate with high values. Kind of a Kumbaya environment for those who remember that church camp song. Sherri seems to avoid players who may disrupt that environment.

If it were a true religous thing then I would think the emphasis would be to embrace the rough, underpriveleged but talented player and attempt to turn their life around and create a productive person with strong values.

If you read the new testiment that was the direction that Jesus went.

If Sherri wants a winning team next year she needs to be hot after transfers or JUCO's that can help the program next year. Then she needs to recruit a couple of strong inside players for 2020.

After watching her on the barbeque joint programs I think she is in utter shock about how bad things are this year. She appears to be a strong person so maybe she can transform her approach and return to past success. Among her biggest mistakes were recruiting only EJ who clearly should have been considered a project and doing nothing to replace Mulkey after she transfered. Two consecutive years of minus recruiting counting the transfers of Mulkey and Dungee. Then hiring her own son with no coaching background when having an opportunity to go after a Lincoln Riley level person. I think she thought that this would be a good year and he would get no criticism.

Exactly my thought.

 

[sooner8]

If a change is ever made you have to let the whole staff go & start fresh.Bring in an established young energetic coach that realizes recruiting is the lifeblood of your program & you must have great assistants that can & will develop the talent that you recruit.Some posters on here have mentioned Lincoln R.& he realizes that.Why can't all OU athletic programs follow that model. Go Sooners!

 

[Soonerguy06]

I will be very shocked if at least one of the coaches on the staff is not out the door at the end of this horrible season...if nothing changes after a season in which we win less than 10 games then it really does mean that the higher-ups could care less about OUWBB..just saying. You don't just ignore a season like this and hope for the best in the future. Obviously mistakes were made to get us to this point and a behavior adjustment needs to happen ASAP. Something is broken and it needs to be fixed and I believe that's SC and her attitude towards recruiting and coaching an attitude of contentment with mediocrity.

 

[Soonerbay]

Buzzards lack courage. Usually, except for the king buzzard, they wait until the victim is dead or totally helpless. Got a king buzzard that wants to take down a Hall of Famer?


I suspect that you only have a few stalkers that may make some noise. The victim is neither dead nor helpless.

I told you this day (and all the ones leading up to it) was in the making in 2010. I didn't wait. I saw it coming. This type of demise does not happen overnight. These types of behaviors eventually catch up with you.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

+1 Bay


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[soonerstar]

+2

 

[OUDallas66]

+3

 

[SoonerSpock]

+4

 

[sooner8693]

+5

 

[Speedy17]

+6

 

[swok34]

I know who I would go after...........Dionnah Jackson-Durrett, Alma Mater: University of Oklahoma (2005)

COACHING HISTORY
2015-present: Mississippi State University (3 seasons - Assistant Coach)
2013-15: George Mason University (2 seasons - Assistant Coach)
2010-13: Southeast Missouri State University (3 seasons - Assistant Coach)

Mississippi State has Vic Schaefer as their head coach.....defense coach extraordinare.

I know there are several OU players who are assistant coaches but given who Dionnah has worked under since 2015.