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http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/grant-hills-response-to-jalen-rose/

Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose
By GRANT HILL
“The Fab Five,” an ESPN film about the Michigan basketball careers of Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson from 1991 to 1993, was broadcast for the first time Sunday night. In the show, Rose, the show’s executive producer, stated that Duke recruited only black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.” Grant Hill, a player on the Duke team that beat Michigan in the 1992 Final Four, reflected on Rose’s comments.

I am a fan, friend and longtime competitor of the Fab Five. I have competed against Jalen Rose and Chris Webber since the age of 13. At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way. The very idea of the Fab Five elicited pride and promise in much the same way the Georgetown teams did in the mid-1980s when I was in high school and idolized them. Their journey from youthful icons to successful men today is a road map for so many young, black men (and women) who saw their journey through the powerful documentary, “The Fab Five.”

It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a ***** and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me. I should have guessed there was something regrettable in the documentary when I received a Twitter apology from Jalen before its premiere. I am aware Jalen has gone to some length to explain his remarks about my family in numerous interviews, so I believe he has some admiration for them.

In his garbled but sweeping comment that Duke recruits only “black players that were ‘Uncle Toms,’ ” Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today.

I am beyond fortunate to have two parents who are still working well into their 60s. They received great educations and use them every day. My parents taught me a personal ethic I try to live by and pass on to my children.

I come from a strong legacy of black Americans. My namesake, Henry Hill, my father’s father, was a day laborer in Baltimore. He could not read or write until he was taught to do so by my grandmother. His first present to my dad was a set of encyclopedias, which I now have. He wanted his only child, my father, to have a good education, so he made numerous sacrifices to see that he got an education, including attending Yale.

This is part of our great tradition as black Americans. We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them. Jalen’s mother is part of our great black tradition and made the same sacrifices for him.

My teammates at Duke — all of them, black and white — were a band of brothers who came together to play at the highest level for the best coach in basketball. I know most of the black players who preceded and followed me at Duke. They all contribute to our tradition of excellence on the court.

It is insulting and ignorant to suggest that men like Johnny Dawkins (coach at Stanford), Tommy Amaker (coach at Harvard), Billy King (general manager of the Nets), Tony Lang (coach of the Mitsubishi Diamond Dolphins in Japan), Thomas Hill (small-business owner in Texas), Jeff Capel (former coach at Oklahoma and Virginia Commonwealth), Kenny Blakeney (assistant coach at Harvard), Jay Williams (ESPN analyst), Shane Battier (Memphis Grizzlies) and Chris Duhon (Orlando Magic) ever sold out their race.

To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous. All of us are extremely proud of the current Duke team, especially Nolan Smith. He was raised by his mother, plays in memory of his late father and carries himself with the pride and confidence that they instilled in him.

The sacrifice, the effort, the education and the friendships I experienced in my four years are cherished. The many Duke graduates I have met around the world are also my “family,” and they are a special group of people. A good education is a privilege.

Just as Jalen has founded a charter school in Michigan, we are expected to use our education to help others, to improve life for those who need our assistance and to use the excellent education we have received to better the world.

A highlight of my time at Duke was getting to know the great John Hope Franklin, John B. Duke Professor of History and the leading scholar of the last century on the total history of African-Americans in this country. His insights and perspectives contributed significantly to my overall development and helped me understand myself, my forefathers and my place in the world.

Ad ingenium faciendum, toward the building of character, is a phrase I recently heard. To me, it is the essence of an educational experience. Struggling, succeeding, trying again and having fun within a nurturing but competitive environment built character in all of us, including every black graduate of Duke.

My mother always says, “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.” As we get older, we understand the importance of these words. Adulthood is nothing but a series of choices: you can say yes or no, but you cannot avoid saying one or the other. In the end, those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them.

I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons.

I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.

Grant Henry Hill
Phoenix Suns
Duke ‘94
 
Excellent response in only the way Grant could...he is all class and always will be...
 
That's spot on. I'm black and have been on both sides of the track. I was too black for the whites and not black enough for the blacks. It's insane...the hatred and prejudice within' our own race.
 
I was a huge Grant Hill fan when he played at Duke. I loved his style of play and he always seemed really classy to me. He didn't trash talk, he let his play do his talking and his response is in much the same vein.

:clap
 
Excellent rebuttal by Grant Hill.

Was there any discussion of those comments in the documentary? Or were they just accepted as fact?
 
My God. I haven't had the opportunity to see the Fab Five documentary, and I had no idea Jalen had made those comments. I'm frankly apalled, since I've always admired him, both as an athlete and as someone who has aspired to be more than just an ex-NBA player.

I'd really like for him to offer some kind of explanation.
 
The response of a champion. I've always like Hill. I don't seem to cheer for Duke, but I've always like Hill. Much like Sam Bradford and Mark Bradley.
 
Maybe I missed something while watching the episode. If I remember correctly, they were speaking to what they felt about them when they were playing against them and not what they think right now.

None of them ever said that Grant Hill and the others are uncle Tom's but that when they were kids they thought they were. Jalen specifically and bluntly stated he felt Duke did not recruit inner city kids and he did not like them for that. In fact Jalen said there was some jealously about not living a life with both his parents. He never said there was anything wrong with it and if anything gave Grant's father the upmost respect for being in Grant's life where as his father who also was a professional athlete was not.

For Grant and many others to pretend that this opinion is something that the Fab Five created is either naive or just fooling themselves. Kids have been saying these kinds of things in the inner city years before the fab five and they will be saying it long after the fab five. Not that it is right or wrong but that it is the perception of what types of players certain Universities recruit.

Like I said in the beginning, maybe I misunderstood what was said in the episode.
 
Or were they just accepted as fact?

What do you mean? It was never presented as fact, simply as Jalen and his teammates' opinions.

Look, I don't see this as a big deal. First, Jalen never said anything about feeling that way no. He said that is how he felt when he was 18 years old. And judging from the smile on his face, you could kind of tell he was "hamming it up" for the show. That's tv. That's what sells.
 
Maybe I missed something while watching the episode. If I remember correctly, they were speaking to what they felt about them when they were playing against them and not what they think right now.

None of them ever said that Grant Hill and the others are uncle Tom's but that when they were kids they thought they were. Jalen specifically and bluntly stated he felt Duke did not recruit inner city kids and he did not like them for that. In fact Jalen said there was some jealously about not living a life with both his parents. He never said there was anything wrong with it and if anything gave Grant's father the upmost respect for being in Grant's life where as his father who also was a professional athlete was not.

For Grant and many others to pretend that this opinion is something that the Fab Five created is either naive or just fooling themselves. Kids have been saying these kinds of things in the inner city years before the fab five and they will be saying it long after the fab five. Not that it is right or wrong but that it is the perception of what types of players certain Universities recruit.

Like I said in the beginning, maybe I misunderstood what was said in the episode.

This is the same impression that I got.
 
Grant Hill is all class of course.

Jalen Rose is an extremely smart, eloquent individual. I really admire him for his maturity at the time of the Fab 5 (he was the glue) and for his ability to rise from where he came from to the point where he is at this point in his life.

The way I took the comments was basically describing how he felt about Duke players at the time of him coming to Michigan. Does anyone really think that inner city kids these days still don't feel some of the same sentiments towards Duke and the kind of kids they recruit ? Obviously a lot of it is jealously when you compare someone like Grant Hill vs the struggles that some of these other kids have to deal with growing up which Jalen openly admitted. The way I see it he just stated what a lot of people were thinking about Duke, yes probably the wrong forum but it is what it is.
 
That is truly an awesome, educated, and well thought out response. Grant Hill is a tremendous role model not only for African American kids but all kids. Here is an individual who has played at the highest level of the game, but speaks about his education and values that the most.
 
I think Grant's commenting retrospectively. It's not easy to digest when you think you were friends but they thought you were a *****. He's a smart cat, I doubt he's holding much of a grudge these days. I also think he's trying to educate future Jalen Rose's from thinking Duke's a bunch of Uncle Toms.
 
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