Oh, Joe Lunardi...

[pnkranger]

...Just wanted to catalog this for March when OSU goes down in flames in the round of 32 to some to-be-named mid-major.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

They are a final four sleeper


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[pnkranger]

They are a final four sleeper


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If you mean they'll be sleeping in their own beds while the final four is on, I agree. Travis Ford is 1-4 all time in the NCAA tournament. Until he proves me wrong, I will remain skeptical of his team's ability to make it to the second weekend of the tournament.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

That's fine. I don't think they will make it to the final four and I'm sure very few people out of Stillwater will but they have a lot of talent and I don't see anything wrong with picking a top 10 team with the talent they have as a sleeper

 

[oSuJeff97]

If you mean they'll be sleeping in their own beds while the final four is on, I agree. Travis Ford is 1-4 all time in the NCAA tournament. Until he proves me wrong, I will remain skeptical of his team's ability to make it to the second weekend of the tournament.

Does seeding matter at all?

It's easy to say that he's 1-4 or whatever, but two of his trips were as 8/9 seeds, which are basically toss-ups every year. He won one and lost the other. Of course, in the year that he won, he was up against #1 seed Pitt in the second round, so advancing beyond that was going to be a stretch.

As for last year, people can say that we underachieved, but 5/12 games are also basically toss-ups at this point, especially when you're matched against one of the most ridiculously under-seeded teams in years and have to play them in their back yard.

Any more, if you're not a top 4 seed, you can almost forget about the seeding, because just about every game is a toss-up.

 

[scrybe]

Does seeding matter at all?

It's easy to say that he's 1-4 or whatever, but two of his trips were as 8/9 seeds, which are basically toss-ups every year. He won one and lost the other. Of course, in the year that he won, he was up against #1 seed Pitt in the second round, so advancing beyond that was going to be a stretch.

As for last year, people can say that we underachieved, but 5/12 games are also basically toss-ups at this point, especially when you're matched against one of the most ridiculously under-seeded teams in years and have to play them in their back yard.

Any more, if you're not a top 4 seed, you can almost forget about the seeding, because just about every game is a toss-up.

Pardon me, but what does any of that have anything to do with pnkranger's post?

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

Takes a lot of good fortune as well as talent to make the FF. We'll see


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[oSuJeff97]

Pardon me, but what does any of that have anything to do with pnkranger's post?

He was saying that he was "skeptical" that OSU could make it to the second weekend with Ford, seemingly based on past results.

My point was that seeding, more than anything, has dictated OSU not making to the second weekend under Ford.

His first two seeds were 8 and 9. You win those, and you're playing #1 in the second round.

Last year he "underachieved" losing to the 12-seed, but still was not "seeded" to the point where we "should have" advanced to the second weekend. Even if we had beaten the massively under-seeded Oregon team, we would have been an underdog to SLU in the second round.

TL;DR: Advancing to the second weekend is highly dependent on your seeding.

 

[CoachTalk]

Roll that excuse machine out...!

 

[playmakr]

He was saying that he was "skeptical" that OSU could make it to the second weekend with Ford, seemingly based on past results.

My point was that seeding, more than anything, has dictated OSU not making to the second weekend under Ford.

His first two seeds were 8 and 9. You win those, and you're playing #1 in the second round.

Last year he "underachieved" losing to the 12-seed, but still was not "seeded" to the point where we "should have" advanced to the second weekend. Even if we had beaten the massively under-seeded Oregon team, we would have been an underdog to SLU in the second round.

TL;DR: Advancing to the second weekend is highly dependent on your seeding.

Yea, it's a damn shame the NCAA assigns seedings by drawing out of a hat. It would be better if your seeding was determined by your performance over the course of the season. Ford has just gotten unlucky to have such bad luck with seedings.

Once again OSUjeff strikes out. It's like the sun rising in the east.

 

[cvangild]

OU fans didn't give Kelvin a break on losing in the tourney because of bad seedings...sure in the hell aren't going to give T Ford that benefit.

I think OSU has some decent talent...but I don't think they are near good enough in the post to be a FF team. I understand guards usually take you places in the big dance, but they would have some serious matchup issues with other team's talented front lines. Plus, I still don't think Nash is all that great. For what he was billed to be, he has been a dissapointment. And I personally don't think he has much of a chance to make a roster in the league.