OU a 12 seed per espn

Again: last year we were one of the last 5-8 teams in the tourney.

Yep. And people forget, being in that range likely means we were only in by 1 or 2 games. That's bubble to me.
 
I am 95% sure we won't be sweating selection Sunday this year. While we are currently right on the bubble, there is no way I see us staying there. By that evening I think we will all be able to rest easy. I think the only thing we will "sweat" is if we qualify for the NIT or not.

I think our "lock number" is 20. If we get to 20 wins, there is no way I see us missing the tournament regardless of how or when they come. 19 is the bubble number for me... that would largely depend on who we beat and how other bubble teams fare. 18 or fewer and there is no way I see us in.

Personally, I think we end up with 17 wins. I think we will beat WVU and win one other random game. MAYBE we also win the first round of B12 to get to 18 total, but I'll say 17. If we finish with 17 that is most likely landing us in the NIT field-- which will be odd. When was the last time we were in the NIT? Seems recent history tells us OU is either a Tourney team or they really stink and miss the post season altogether.
 
I am 95% sure we won't be sweating selection Sunday this year. While we are currently right on the bubble, there is no way I see us staying there. By that evening I think we will all be able to rest easy. I think the only thing we will "sweat" is if we qualify for the NIT or not.

I think our "lock number" is 20. If we get to 20 wins, there is no way I see us missing the tournament regardless of how or when they come. 19 is the bubble number for me... that would largely depend on who we beat and how other bubble teams fare. 18 or fewer and there is no way I see us in.

Personally, I think we end up with 17 wins. I think we will beat WVU and win one other random game. MAYBE we also win the first round of B12 to get to 18 total, but I'll say 17. If we finish with 17 that is most likely landing us in the NIT field-- which will be odd. When was the last time we were in the NIT? Seems recent history tells us OU is either a Tourney team or they really stink and miss the post season altogether.

2004. Kelvin probably should have been fired on the spot since he clearly didn't do a good job of capitalizing on the Final Four and Elite Eight appearances the previous two years. :) (It's a joke. Sadly I feel the need to point that out.)

But you are correct, when we miss the tourney, we generally REALLY miss the tourney.
 
2004. Kelvin probably should have been fired on the spot since he clearly didn't do a good job of capitalizing on the Final Four and Elite Eight appearances the previous two years. :) (It's a joke. Sadly I feel the need to point that out.)

But you are correct, when we miss the tourney, we generally REALLY miss the tourney.

That team, despite all their injuries and youth, was a lame foul call on Bookout in the Big 12 Tourney (I think) near half-court away from making the Dance. That call still pisses me off.
 
So....

Does this "conf is really good" arguement work for football? Seems the s$c benefits from this argument.

Just sayin 😉
 
Again: last year we were one of the last 5-8 teams in the tourney. This year's team would have had a significantly worse resume had they gone 7-11 in conference, unless you had put together some implausible scenario where after starting 3-7 our remaining 4 wins all happened to come against good teams.


The idea that we would have been a "mortal lock" at 7-11 is patently absurd.

I think my point your missing is that what happened last year doesn't matter this year, it's irrelevant. And that's because the teams we would be judged against this year are severely lacking in competent resumes. I agree 1000% that in a "normal" year a 7-11 conference record and lack of any overly big wins and we would barely even be considered, let alone be in. But look at the other bubble teams out there this year and our resume is as good or better than all of them; the teams just aren't there. We have seven QI/QII wins and NO Q4 wins; that's pretty heady stuff when compared to the rest of the competition. Then, when you factor in that three of the four wins we'd need to get to seven would be QI or QII wins, we'd look that much better. The traditional solid resume teams just aren't out there to complete a 68-team tournament, which is why a lot of the last 10 or so that make are going to have a lot of warts.

Again, all of this is moot, we'll be lucky to win two more games. But if we somehow pull out of this and get to seven, we'll be at or near the front of the bubble line come SS.
 
OU currently a 10 seed Per The Athletic

That article does a good job explaining how bad the bubble is this season. For perspective, they also have Indiana and Butler in, and Florida and Creighton among the first four out. If/when there aren't enough deserving teams, the committee still has to put 68 in.
 
That article does a good job explaining how bad the bubble is this season. For perspective, they also have Indiana and Butler in, and Florida and Creighton among the first four out. If/when there aren't enough deserving teams, the committee still has to put 68 in.

very very much this
 
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