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Many expected Peyton to have a very good year after watching the first couple of games. Unfortunately, she has struggled more than expected against good competition. She doesn't have the athleticism of a Gioya or LaNesia. Without that quickness, she has trouble penetrating. She has also struggled shooting from BTA. Her defense has been okay.

While LaNesia makes a few freshman mistakes, she also gives us more mobility, ability to drive, a good defender, and the potential to score against the tougher defenders. She also has a higher ceiling.

While I think Peyton has a high basketball IQ and she does some very good things, I look for LaNesia to start getting more of Peyton's minutes going forward.
 
I think that may happen, or we might see Kornet there some.


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I think that may happen, or we might see Kornet there some.


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Kornet does need more minutes. She seems to be better suited for the 3 or 4 but, regardless, she needs more minutes, particularly when she has a hot shooting stroke.
 
Its my fault. Against WV, in the second half I thought "Nicole should be out there instead of Peyton" and then Peyton would make a play-mainly on defense. She is good in the zone they ran, getting tips and turnovers.
She is another that after a year off has not had all the gears hit full speed yet, but like Gioya has a high ceiling, and is ahead of LaNesia in knowledge.
 
Kornet does need more minutes. She seems to be better suited for the 3 or 4 but, regardless, she needs more minutes, particularly when she has a hot shooting stroke.

Okay, would you say Peyton plays the two and Gioya the three?

Would you consider Gabbi, Gioya, Sharane, Nicole and Kay Kay a feasible line-up?

How about Gabbi, Gioya, Maddie, Sharane and Kay Kay?

I am considering the first for starting and the second...just a group in together in the game.

Really wondering what you and others think. I could see these players on the floor together but don't know if others could.
 
Okay, would you say Peyton plays the two and Gioya the three?

It appears Peyton plays the 2 and Gioya the 3 but in this offense, there isn't much difference.

Would you consider Gabbi, Gioya, Sharane, Nicole and Kay Kay a feasible line-up?

Yes, this is my favorite lineup right now.

How about Gabbi, Gioya, Maddie, Sharane and Kay Kay?

I think Sherri will continue to give Maddie a few minutes but they will be limited until Maddie can prove she can play without making so many mistakes.

I am considering the first for starting and the second...just a group in together in the game.

Really wondering what you and others think. I could see these players on the floor together but don't know if others could.

Good questions...I hope several will respond to see what they think.
 
My starting line-up would be Ortiz, Carter, Campbell-Olds, Kornet and Kay Kay.

I'd have Williams on a short leash. She either shows up in the first 7 minutes or she sits on the bench. I'd do that because I think Treece is already close to being better than her and ViVi is an acceptable substitute for either of them.
 
Little is the extension of Sherri out on the floor, Like Whitney Hand before her, and Chelsi Welch before her... She hasn't been shooting well, but she does so many other things well.
 
My starting line-up would be Ortiz, Carter, Campbell-Olds, Kornet and Kay Kay.

I'd have Williams on a short leash. She either shows up in the first 7 minutes or she sits on the bench. I'd do that because I think Treece is already close to being better than her and ViVi is an acceptable substitute for either of them.

I like Treece a lot, and I think she will be a force around the basket before she's through at OU. But to say she's already close to being better than Kaylon is…well, wrong IMO. Kay Kay's a very gifted player; her main problem – and it's a real head scratcher – is that she doesn't always take advantage of the gifts she's been given.
 
A number of our players have the same problem as Peyton and Kay Kay do, learning what they can do. Kay Kay gets into foul trouble trying to do too much. She misses layups and gets charge calls when she tries to go over someone, to score or for rebounds. She, and those who feed her, have to learn what Kay Kay can do. She is very quick on her feet for an interior player. She can get to the bucket in one step and score easily, if she has a lane. It does no good to feed her if there is someone behind her. If there is a lane, get it to her on that side and let her move. She'll kill.

Too often, we just pass the ball without doing anything to make that pass effective.. If everyone on the court is standing still, a pass doesn't really change the relative position of anyone. If, on the other hand, either the passer or the recipient is moving, there may be an opening that results. We are not particularly good at putting motion into the motion offense. But, when someone like Gioya gets moving, defenders shift. Now, you have open lanes everywhere. Suddenly, Kay Kay is wide open---if she can remember to watch for the pass. Gioya's movement reveals Kay Kay.

Peyton is similar. She can do so much. But, she isn't in high school. She cannot dribble into a crowd in college. But, she does know where to be. If Gioya moves, Peyton is very good at being someplace where she is open. A number of Maddie's passes have found Peyton wide open under the basket, so wide open that she had too much time to think about it. But, Peyton knows where to be. For someone who doesn't appear to be athletic, her hands and feet seem to be in the right place a great deal of the time, especially at key times.

Peyton is pretty good at dribbling to the area of the free throw line, and they usually don't stop her on that one. She is not good at getting past two defenders to get under the basket. So, go where you can get to. She can hit that shot.

Treece---I think she is learning rapidly. But, McKenna probably won't score twenty to beat Kansas. Kay Kay might if they can get the ball to her where she needs it.

The one that needs to learn the most is Gabbi. The next time Gabbi tries a bounce pass to the post should earn her five minutes on the bench, even if we have to play with four on the floor until a time out. She has to learn not to make mistakes with her passes. Nearly all of her turnovers are preventable, the type that you can cure in a week.
 
I like Treece a lot, and I think she will be a force around the basket before she's through at OU. But to say she's already close to being better than Kaylon is…well, wrong IMO. Kay Kay's a very gifted player; her main problem – and it's a real head scratcher – is that she doesn't always take advantage of the gifts she's been given.

I think that is a good way to describe her. If Kaylon could catch the ball in the deep post, take one step away from the basket (while keeping her pivot foot in place), turn, and shoot a fade-away-jump shot, it would really help her offensive game. Right now, she always tries to go toward the basket, sometimes it works against a weak opponent but often it doesn't against a good defender. In the case of a good defender, that one step away from the basket would give her room to get off a good shot cleanly. That move can easily be made without a dribble.
 
We have talked about the athleticism of Gioya and LaNecia and I agree that they are the best athletes on the team. However, I do think that most of the players are good athletes. Pretty quick with and without the ball, not bad at elevating for rebounds. I have no clue about Shaya, Treece or Vivi because have not seen enough of them, kind of difficult to tell by listening on the radio, though it did sound as though Vivi may have ran the floor pretty well to get that block in the WVU game. Wish that had been part of the highlight reel because I am not sure what happened, other than the block. Thinking Kay Kay is running the floor pretty well......not sure if she can elevate.

Also, athleticism is more than quickness and elevation, it is also strength. Not sure which of our players have that, I would think Sharane.

Wondering what others think.
 
I think Vivi is probably the strongest girl on the team. She is built strong. McKenna is, too. But, not quite like Vivi. McKenna is more like a three in her footwork, but she has good hands for blocks. The block by Vivi that you mentioned was more like the blocks Courtney used to make. She sprinted down the court, blocked the ball out of the hands of the opponent just as she began to go up for a layup, probably at chest level. She sprinted down there with their guard on a fastbreak---after having ACL surgery. Vivi is a little more difficult to push around. Somewhat like Courtney, if she wants to be somewhere, she can get there. Very good athlete for her size. Doesn't have the shooting touch that McKenna has. But, her power got seven points in OT against Illinois.
 
I think Vivi is probably the strongest girl on the team. She is built strong. McKenna is, too. But, not quite like Vivi. McKenna is more like a three in her footwork, but she has good hands for blocks. The block by Vivi that you mentioned was more like the blocks Courtney used to make. She sprinted down the court, blocked the ball out of the hands of the opponent just as she began to go up for a layup, probably at chest level. She sprinted down there with their guard on a fastbreak---after having ACL surgery. Vivi is a little more difficult to push around. Somewhat like Courtney, if she wants to be somewhere, she can get there. Very good athlete for her size. Doesn't have the shooting touch that McKenna has. But, her power got seven points in OT against Illinois.

Yes, I would think Vivi would be the strongest. If she sprinted down on a fastbreak to get that block, that is motivation and speed. Treece is probably ahead of Vivi now but believe that they will, in the end, contribute equally. They do bring different things to the table. Would really love to see Vivi learn to shoot free throws and shoot a little more away from the basket, but definitely, the free throw. I know often bigs do not make their free throws but I really find that unacceptable. I feel quite sure they can all learn.
 
Wow I'm so glad Little had a good scoring game... She does a lot of things on the court, moving we'll with out the ball, great bring the help side D in traps. Something else I really stood out to me, when Kay Kay almost got that and 1 towards the end of the game and the team came together in the huddle, Little tapped Kay Kay on the head as if to say good job... She's defiantly found a role as the team leader...
 
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