Pledger's three....

[KCRuf/Nek]

I think Reynolds T-ed up Billy Tubbs in every game he "officiated" when OU was involved. Bain (pro-Mizzou) and Hightower (pro-KU, as were most of the Big 8 zebras) also deserve their own trips down the Walk of Shame.

Is Ed still working? I can remember seeing him doing a KU game a couple of years ago.

 

[ousooners1baby]

Yes, I was a little peeved it was not a call. Now looking at the pic on front page I now know we were robbed of an opportunity. I was more upset about the flopping Smart and Nash were doing that was rewarded with foul calls. Terrible officiating the last few minutes of reg and OT.:facepalm

 

[KCRuf/Nek]

Yes, I was a little peeved it was not a call. Now looking at the pic on front page I now know we were robbed of an opportunity. I was more upset about the flopping Smart and Nash were doing that was rewarded with foul calls. Terrible officiating the last few minutes of reg and OT.:facepalm

It's still hard to tell from that angle exactly what happened. I think once he got on top of the ball and began pushing on it as Pledger keep going backwards there wasn't much to do. I don't even think there's body going on there.

 

[MNsooner]

It's still hard to tell from that angle exactly what happened. I think once he got on top of the ball and began pushing on it as Pledger keep going backwards there wasn't much to do. I don't even think there's body going on there.

You don't see body contact in that picture? We can argue about whether or not you should expect that call, but I can't imagine how you can look at the picture and claim that there isn't any body contact going on. If you won't accept that picture as evidence of body contact then I suspect there is nothing that could prove to you body contacted existed.

 

[skyvue]

Then there's the other question: If the very same play had occurred while Smart was shooting, would the official have blown a whistle?

Of course, I can't prove a hypothetical, but based on what I saw in Saturday's game, the answer is a resounding yes. And therein lies the rub. The officiating wasn't remotely consistent on Saturday. I thought the intentional foul call was a bad one, but that was in the first half. I can deal with that. But the way the game was called when it really mattered? Not so much.

I sincerely hope Smart leaves after this year. Not because he's good and he plays for oswho -- I don't care about that; we're .500 against the guy. And not even because of the tongue bath he got from the announcers during the game. But I will eventually suffer a fatal aneurysm if I have to watch him continue to get coddled by the officials as he did on Saturday.

 

[DenverSooner]

I don't think Smart is coddled by the officials. The block came at the end of OT on a forced shot with his hand on the ball. You just don't see officials give guys that call very often. I think they totally blew the call on M'Baye, especially counting the basket. I am more upset about the M'Baye call than the Pledger shot. Take away the free throw and OU wins in regulation (assuming everything else is the same).

When Smart played in Noman he was in foul trouble the entire game.

I think Smart plays a game that forces officials to make calls. He drives the ball a lot and is good at it. That creates a lot of opportunities for him. He is also good at finishing after contact. Those are really his strengths in my opinion. He is a respectable shooter but not great. Forte and Brown are both better 3 point shooters than Smart.

 

[skyvue]

I am more upset about the M'Baye call than the Pledger shot.

Me too. And the phantom foul on Cam when Smart had and lost a rebound.

But that's it -- there are those two calls, and then Pledger 3 and the intentional foul in the first half. And those are just off the top of my head. And every one of those calls has been referenced many more times than once here in the days since the game as bad calls. It's not just me who thought they were bad calls, not by a long shot.

Again, the intentional foul, as wrong-headed as I felt it was, I can look past; it was in the first half and we obviously overcame it. But any of the other three calls, all of which came in crunch time, could have been a difference maker. And that's not even mentioning the oswho player who was allowed to roll under our guy while he had the ball, leading to a breakaway basket for the aggies (I don't know if it was Smart who did the rolling or not, but if it was, add it to the list -- and even if it wasn't, it was a godawful non-call).

 

[campbest]

The last foul Smart got was frustrating, but give him credit...he ran around two of our guys who failed to put a body on him. Could have easily been avoided with some sound, fundamental play...which was OU's downfall on Saturday.

 

[skyvue]

The last foul Smart got was frustrating, but give him credit...he ran around two of our guys who failed to put a body on him. Could have easily been avoided with some sound, fundamental play...which was OU's downfall on Saturday.

If you're talking about the play that led to a bogus foul on Cam, you're giving him too much credit, in my opnion. He was out of control, fell, and lost the ball. Had the officials not bailed him out, no one would be talking about it as a positive play for Smart; it should have been a turnover, giving us the ball with a lead--a play the aggie fans would be bemoaning much as some of our fans are bemoaning the Grooms turnover.

 

[Dignon003]

Another view, obviously a couple of tenths before the one on the front page

 

[CompOUnder]

Another view, obviously a couple of tenths before the one on the front page

Looks like all ball. Just ignore our typical ref crybaby fans. They are a broken record....

 

[OSUFan]

Another view, obviously a couple of tenths before the one on the front page

Well lookie there

 

[skyvue]

And lookie here:

Besides, that play was the least of it. There were any number of plays down the stretch that saw the aggies get bailed out. And aggie fans know it. That's why the only real argument they've presented is the above closely cropped photo that doesn't even show the contact.

 

[OSUFan]

And lookie here:

Besides, that play was the least of it. There were any number of plays down the stretch that saw the aggies get bailed out. And aggie fans know it. That's why the only real argument they've presented is the above closely cropped photo that doesn't even show the contact.

Do you not know the rules of basketball? Look it up, that's not a foul

 

[MNsooner]

You are trying to prove no body contact occurred by using a photo which crops out the player's body? It doesn't take a genius to figure out why that makes no sense.

 

[WTSooner]

Do you not know the rules of basketball? Look it up, that's not a foul

You have lost your mind.

That play is no different than any shooter that gets a shot away cleanly, then gets "bumped" or "knocked down" after the shot. You see fouls like that called every game.

Initially Smart made a good play. He got all ball. But that does not excuse him from a foul call if as the play progresses, his body slams into Pledger's, and his forearm lays on Pledger's forearm. That is a foul. Period.

 

[pnkranger]

You have lost your mind.

That play is no different than any shooter that gets a shot away cleanly, then gets "bumped" or "knocked down" after the shot. You see fouls like that called every game.

Initially Smart made a good play. He got all ball. But that does not excuse him from a foul call if as the play progresses, his body slams into Pledger's, and his forearm lays on Pledger's forearm. That is a foul. Period.

Yup.

 

[OSUFan]

Straight from the Rule book

"To register a successful blocked shot, you must primarily hit the ball If there is incidental contact between the shot blocker and the shooter after the block, then the referee will not call a foul. That contact must come as the player is in the downward portion of the jump."

 

[skyvue]

Straight from the Rule book

"To register a successful blocked shot, you must primarily hit the ball If there is incidental contact between the shot blocker and the shooter after the block, then the referee will not call a foul. That contact must come as the player is in the downward portion of the jump."

er, you do know what "incidental" means, yes?

 

[OSUFan]

er, you do know what "incidental" means, yes?

in·ci·den·tal
[in-si-den-tl]

adjective
1.
happening or likely to happen in an unplanned or subordinate conjunction with something else.