Poll: Coaches favor 30 second clock

[AdaSooner]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-basketball-coaches-want-30-second-shot-clock

 

[Max Power]

I agree with the coaches on this one. I don't want 24 because I like the little differences between the Pros and College like the one foot rule is in bounds in college football and the clock stops on first downs.

 

[bocabull]

I like it. Speed up the game a little but not rush things too much.

 

[opsooner]

It ain't broke.

 

[SoonerJK12]

It ain't broke.

Ummm, many would disagree.

 

[OklahomaLibertarian]

Yeah, speed it up.. 30 seconds is good. But, if they do get down to 30 then that would benefit the press teams, as once their opponents finally get it across midcourt they'll have less time to run their half court offense.

Also.. officiating is an issue with how the game has moved more toward physical basketball. There's a bit of a conundrum here with officialing. A lot of foul calling slows the game down, but less physical contact means more scoring and exciting plays. Theoretically, If they start calling more fouls it would take a couple of seasons, but you should see less physical play and more scoring/offense.

 

[OklahomaLibertarian]

It ain't broke.

There are some real noticeable differences within the last few years.

Have you noticed we almost always miss the beginning of the OU game because the game before ours is almost always running long? Then you have these strange "timeouts after timeouts".

OU wants to run so we're more exciting than most teams, but watch a game with two teams who run the shot clock down every time. It's so effing boring. That's when I turn on Netflix.

 

[playmakr]

30 would be great

 

[Vinny78]

Needs to be 24 seconds like international and NBA. Very booring, need more games like OU/Iowa State

 

[DenverSooner]

It ain't broke.

It wasn't broken when they adopted the shot clock and added a three point line.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Needs to be 24 seconds like international and NBA. Very booring, need more games like OU/Iowa State

if you go to 24 and still allow the holding grabbing and zone D ..

Virginia and Louisville and Kentucky will start holding teams to scoring in the 30's

 

[campbest]

Changes that will be made in the next couple years:

- 30 second shot clock
- expanded restricted area under the basket (to mirror the NBA)

Changes which need to happen:

- timeouts only coming from players on the floor during live ball situations
- FIBA rule regarding play on the rim is vastly superior to the American standard.

The coaches are the ones to set the rules, so the first above will probably won't happen soon. Consistency in officiating is an issue, there are some old guys who can't keep up with the game, but still quite a few good ones. A mix of old and new would be beneficial.

However, until the coaches relinquish a little control of the game, you will still see issues. Coaches only want certain referees and rules in order to "control" their game. Coaching egos in college are far greater than in the NBA, hence, college has trended away from being a players-league. Need to get back to more time on the floor and concentrating on the players, not coaching preferences.

 

[ksSooner13]

They asked Kruger this last night during his Sooner Sports Talk show, live every Thursday at Rudys BBQ starting at 7 (Shamless plug for the restaurant).

He said the changes he would make are:

- 30 second shot clock, speeds up the game, but still allows the offense to run a set and not rush the possession

- FIBA rules with respect to a live ball on the rim

- Allow a player to roll and get up on a loose ball, thus eliminated those massive pileups

- Reward the defender with a smaller space for a 5 count

 

[Zimwillett]

Changes that will be made in the next couple years:

- 30 second shot clock
- expanded restricted area under the basket (to mirror the NBA)

Changes which need to happen:

- timeouts only coming from players on the floor during live ball situations
- FIBA rule regarding play on the rim is vastly superior to the American standard.

The coaches are the ones to set the rules, so the first above will probably won't happen soon. Consistency in officiating is an issue, there are some old guys who can't keep up with the game, but still quite a few good ones. A mix of old and new would be beneficial.

However, until the coaches relinquish a little control of the game, you will still see issues. Coaches only want certain referees and rules in order to "control" their game. Coaching egos in college are far greater than in the NBA, hence, college has trended away from being a players-league. Need to get back to more time on the floor and concentrating on the players, not coaching preferences.

Agree 100%. Cutting down on the number of timeouts would be a simple yet effective way of improving the flow of the game as well. Especially now with replay, the final minutes of some games are hard, if not impossible, to watch. Coaches already get 8 predetermined media TOs. There's no reason they need 5 more.

 

[DenverSooner]

Agree 100%. Cutting down on the number of timeouts would be a simple yet effective way of improving the flow of the game as well. Especially now with replay, the final minutes of some games are hard, if not impossible, to watch. Coaches already get 8 predetermined media TOs. There's no reason they need 5 more.

What would you do? 3 with one use it or lose it first half timeout? That might be a big change. A well placed timeout can be very effective.

 

[oSuJeff97]

What would you do? 3 with one use it or lose it first half timeout? That might be a big change. A well placed timeout can be very effective.

That sounds about right.

What I've never liked about timeouts in college basketball is that they aren't precious, like in football.

Even in close games, teams rarely ever run out of timeouts, and thus the end of close college games devolve into: foul-free throw-timeout...foul-free throw-timeout...foul-free throw-timeout....

It's freaking excruciating.

So yeah, I would love a 30-second shot clock and reduced timeouts.

 

[DenverSooner]

Another possibility to clean up the end of the game would be to make two of them use them or lose them. It would be very difficult for a team that is trailing to enter the final minutes with three timeouts because they would likely need to use at least one to end a run.

 

[Zimwillett]

What would you do? 3 with one use it or lose it first half timeout? That might be a big change. A well placed timeout can be very effective.

I think that's reasonable. Or maybe 4 with on use it or lose it before half, and one before 8 or 10 minutes in the 2nd. I just don't think it's fun to watch the end of close games when the teams collectively have 5 or 6 TOs left.

I agree that well-placed TOs can be effective, but too often they are literally used to kill the momentum of a game. I think limiting them would actually improve the game by adding a strategic element.

If you include media TOs, there is the potential for 18 stoppages in any given game. That is really too much. It's no wonder ESPN is continually having to bump the first 4 or 5 minutes of games to another channel if there's a close game airing before. Shaving a few TOs here and there would be an easy way to solve some of that.

 

[MsProudSooner]

How do the FIBA rules with regard to the ball around the rim differ from the NCAA rules?

 

[Zimwillett]

How do the FIBA rules with regard to the ball around the rim differ from the NCAA rules?

The ball can be played any time after it touches the rim without goaltending. In other words, there is no imaginary cylinder above the rim preventing players from touching it.

Of all the proposed changes, this one seems the most trivial to me. I don't see how the current rule really diminishes the flow or watchability of games, but better basketball minds than I think it might have an impact, so I'm at least intrigued.