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[sybarite]

My comments are not about Baylor. My comment deals with OU. See if you can understand it this way. Sherri's first goal every year is to win the Big 12. The next goal is to win a NCAA. If we don't reach the first goal, it is highly unlikely we will accomplish the second goal.

And, you have made it quite clear that you are in support of Mulkey and dissatisfied with someone who has had success without resorting to a lack of ethics and character.

 

[SoonerNorm]

And, you have made it quite clear that you are in support of Mulkey and dissatisfied with someone who has had success without resorting to a lack of ethics and character.

That's a lie. But, I'm sure you knew that.

 

[sybarite]

That's a lie. But, I'm sure you knew that.

Is it?
What message did you get when Blackwell Sooner thought the subscript message in tycat's posts was directed at you?

 

[DarthSooner]

Why do we continue to bicker about this? The player of the year could be one of several players this year. All are very talented. It will come down to who was more impressive in big wins and and against better talent.

Headed to the Baylor forums now to post OU support all over their threads. Hahahahahahahah:woot:woot:woot:woot

 

[SoonerNorm]

Is it?
What message did you get when Blackwell Sooner thought the subscript message in tycat's posts was directed at you?

I don't have anyone on ignore but you just made the list. I do not appreciate anyone making up stupid, dumb, and ignorant, lies to say about me when you know it isn't true. There are two types of people I can't stand. One is a thief and the other is a liar. You have proven that you fall into one of those categories. Now, report me if you wish. I could not care less.

 

[DarthSooner]

Now children......play nice.....act your age not your shoe size!

Just an observation but we attack players on here all the time, personal or basketball related, then bash those that defend them. But two fans get into it and can't take it when it's dished out? Gotta love it.

 

[sybarite]

Norm and I didn't like each other on the Insider board either. There is a fundamental difference in how we approach the program and the purpose of an education.

 

[DarthSooner]

Seems a lot of that going on here lately, almost seems like a Baylor website lately. BOOMER SOONER. It seems some have forgot that.

 

[sybarite]

Seems a lot of that going on here lately, almost seems like a Baylor website lately. BOOMER SOONER. It seems some have forgot that.

Too much so. I think there is a fundamental that is forgotten by some. OU is a university. The function is to educate human beings for the betterment of our society and themselves. That is the only real function of a university, and it can survive without football or basketball.

We may object or wish that a player would play better or quit making basketball mistakes. But, the bottom line is that each one is a university student at the University of Oklahoma, and Sherri teaches them the type of stuff that students should learn in order to make ours a better world. Not all coaches do that.

 

[tycat947]

Seems a lot of that going on here lately, almost seems like a Baylor website lately. BOOMER SOONER. It seems some have forgot that.

Very true! And it seems to be only on this particular board. I haven't seen this on any other OU sports boards, football or basketball, or any other sport. Seems almost personal to me. We've had player parents post on here before that could have given us all maybe some good insight of the program until their child has been ripped and then they leave. We've lost other good posters as well because of the negativity. Boggles my mind!

 

[gosooner2]

Very true! And it seems to be only on this particular board. I haven't seen this on any other OU sports boards, football or basketball, or any other sport. Seems almost personal to me. We've had player parents post on here before that could have given us all maybe some good insight of the program until their child has been ripped and then they leave. We've lost other good posters as well because of the negativity. Boggles my mind!

I would not agree that this board even compares to "land Theives" or the basketball board of a couple of years ago. It is more negative this year due to expectations, and possibly a realization that a very mature team seems to be making the same mistakes that they made 3 years ago. I find Norm to be very even in his comments but certainly a strong, strong OU fan. Syb is no doubt a die hard OU fan, although even he has had a tough year with this team. I do not however know of very many University's that do not have football and basketball. Lots of colleges but very few Universities. Even the Ivy league looks for performance. Accepting a scholarship and being a starter in almost any sport of significance at a D1 school brings more scrutiny than it should with todays media, and social networking. It requires thicker skin than I have. I hope everyone continues to post their thoughts (even though a lot of them are wrong JK), that is what this board is for. As long as the language does not deteriorate. That is my biggest fear not just disagreements.

 

[sybarite]

I would not agree that this board even compares to "land Theives" or the basketball board of a couple of years ago. It is more negative this year due to expectations, and possibly a realization that a very mature team seems to be making the same mistakes that they made 3 years ago. I find Norm to be very even in his comments but certainly a strong, strong OU fan. Syb is no doubt a die hard OU fan, although even he has had a tough year with this team. I do not however know of very many University's that do not have football and basketball. Lots of colleges but very few Universities. Even the Ivy league looks for performance. Accepting a scholarship and being a starter in almost any sport of significance at a D1 school brings more scrutiny than it should with todays media, and social networking. It requires thicker skin than I have. I hope everyone continues to post their thoughts (even though a lot of them are wrong JK), that is what this board is for. As long as the language does not deteriorate. That is my biggest fear not just disagreements.

Quite a number of universities do not have any athletic programs, or at least of significance. MIT comes to mind as does my daughter's alma mater, NYU, although they do, on paper, have a basketball team. Nobody knows anything about it. Other rather significant universities have very reduced or less stringent programs. The Ivy League usually could care less, except when they play their arch rivals. Nobody cares if they don't beat ND any more. Johns Hopkins does have a lacrosse program, much to my surprise.

I think we got a little carried away with some of the sports at universities and forgot what they are there for. I must admit that I am intensely proud of some of the athletes that come through OU, but probably for different reasons. The football players that I liked the most were those who came from very horrible backgrounds and finished their degrees. Their pro careers are fairly short and soon forgotten. I remember the kids who came through and ran track, being the first in their families to graduate high school.

When we don't win, I'm disappointed. But, is there one OU player that you wouldn't want your son to have as a wife? She might commit a turnover, but she has exhibited strength and character for four or five years. I don't remember anyone starting a fight on the floor, hitting an opponent in the face, or pulling an opponent's hair. I can think of one school where all that has happened, and their fans think that is the way it should be. I don't think that anyone like that belongs in sport, and a coach that puts up with that should be banned from amateur sports.

 

[Big12]

As a pretty regular "lurker" here on the OU women's board, and even a sometimes poster, I think that the anti-Baylor sentiment is stirred up primarily by Sybarite, who somehow seems to believe that OU recruits National Merit scholars who were also Girl Scouts and then selects the basketball team from among them and that Sherri Coale spends most of each practice talking about ethics, whereas Kim Mulkey recruits reform school girls who are good basketball players and spends most of practice showing them how they can get around the rules of the game. Sybarite keeps living in the past, always bringing up ancient transgressions, even when they have no bearing on a discussion of who should be selected as Player of the Year.

 

[gosooner2]

Syb, some of what you say is true except you really need to get out more. I know a little about Johns Hopkins and simply googled NYU and MIT. All of them compete in about 10 mens sports (including football) and almost as many women's sports in fact NYU women are in the NCAA's. As far a Baylor goes you have a real hangup with them as by the way does a lot of the country when you mention OU athletics. I have lived all over the US and we are considered a "dirty" program. Doesn't matter that women's basketball has never had a problem we (all OU) are lumped together starting with Mr. Bud. I love OU and our
athletes (most of them) but our image is not good. I tell them neither is theirs which is usually true.

 

[garyeb2]

As a pretty regular "lurker" here on the OU women's board, and even a sometimes poster, I think that the anti-Baylor sentiment is stirred up primarily by Sybarite, who somehow seems to believe that OU recruits National Merit scholars who were also Girl Scouts and then selects the basketball team from among them and that Sherri Coale spends most of each practice talking about ethics, whereas Kim Mulkey recruits reform school girls who are good basketball players and spends most of practice showing them how they can get around the rules of the game. Sybarite keeps living in the past, always bringing up ancient transgressions, even when they have no bearing on a discussion of who should be selected as Player of the Year.

You are right of course. Your commentary is also much kinder than anything that I could muster up.

 

[sybarite]

Syb, some of what you say is true except you really need to get out more. I know a little about Johns Hopkins and simply googled NYU and MIT. All of them compete in about 10 mens sports (including football) and almost as many women's sports in fact NYU women are in the NCAA's. As far a Baylor goes you have a real hangup with them as by the way does a lot of the country when you mention OU athletics. I have lived all over the US and we are considered a "dirty" program. Doesn't matter that women's basketball has never had a problem we (all OU) are lumped together starting with Mr. Bud. I love OU and our
athletes (most of them) but our image is not good. I tell them neither is theirs which is usually true.

Did you even look at MIT to see what sports they have? Sculling, field hockey, fencing, etc. Not one revenue sport like baseball, football, basketball, softball, etc. NYU---I knew about their "team." Did you look at who they play? I'm surprised that the conference gets an NCAA bid: Brandeis, U. Chicago, Washington (St. Louis), Emory, Carnegie-Mellon, Case Western, Rochester. I mean, we are talking about a major commitment to sports here. Football? Um, no.
Johns Hopkins, like NYU is a D-3 school. These schools, D-3, are so committed to sports that they offer zero scholarships.

 

[Mac]

As much as I like Stewie, her numbers haven't been that eye pooping to me. If her number impress you as a sophomore then check these numbers out.

19.7 points, 5.9 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.0 steals, 53.6 percent from the floor, 47.4 percent from three, 86.4 percent from the line. Those are the numbers being put up by Jewell Loyd from Noter Dame and she taken fewer shoots then McBride.

Tho my pick for NPOY would have to go to Chiney Ogwumike, Stanford is hard enough to watch this season, no way they win the pac 12 or stay in the top 25 with out her.

 

[sybarite]

A case can be made for Loyd. A case can be made for McBride. The one that I really like on that team is the freshman point, Lindsay Allen. She is about as good as any freshman point guard that I have ever seen.

I have only seen Ogwumike once, and it was on a bad day for Stanford.

The tournament should reveal more.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Good pick, Mac. She is a heck of a player.

 

[got mulk??]

as a pretty regular "lurker" here on the ou women's board, and even a sometimes poster, i think that the anti-baylor sentiment is stirred up primarily by sybarite, who somehow seems to believe that ou recruits national merit scholars who were also girl scouts and then selects the basketball team from among them and that sherri coale spends most of each practice talking about ethics, whereas kim mulkey recruits reform school girls who are good basketball players and spends most of practice showing them how they can get around the rules of the game. Sybarite keeps living in the past, always bringing up ancient transgressions, even when they have no bearing on a discussion of who should be selected as player of the year.

bump^^^