Seymore Cox
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Skilled offense trumps defense every time. Is Ron Artest better than Lebron or Dwayne Wade?
Skilled offense trumps defense every time. Is Ron Artest better than Lebron or Dwayne Wade?
blh111,
If there is one thing I know about Bill Self, his players will play defense. Xavier may not be a great defender in high school, but I promise you he will be for Bill Self at KU.
Huh, I'll explain to you why it isn't even the same comparison.
Artest offensive game isn't close to those cats. Bradley's offensive game is close to that of Henry. He has a great mid range game and his shot over all has improved. He is quick with great athletic ability, and he gets to the rack with ease. I know you saw him play when he beat Tiny. His jumper is better than what some are giving him credit for. But on defense, Henry is not close to being on Bradley's level on defense. Being able to dominate on both ends is rare.
I'll give a better example. Nash could score but he couldn't stop anybody else from doing the same to him. So when he ran up against Parker and a team that played defense he would get smashed. I guess the better offense didn't trump the better defense during their games. You know why, because San Antonio had the much better defense, with an offensive game that was still very good. Give me that.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recr...mns/story?columnist=biancardi_paul&id=4054919
On the next level, who is a 6'2 SG in Bradley going to stop? The biggest thing against Bradley is he's a tweener. Henry is a 6'6 guy who can shoot lights out, post a player up, and drive. You said Bradley's not fair off, but Bradley can't shoot lights out and he cant post players up. Bradley has a decent pulll up game, but so does Henry. Also in your point to defense, on the college level, individual defense isn't as important as overall team defense. You talk as if Bradley is going to limit his man to 5 points a game, and Henry is going to be giving up 30. Defensively, what Bradley does is he's a hawk on the ball. That's a great attribute. But let's also be realistic about your assessment. He's not going to shut down guys like Willie Warren, James Anderson, Collins, Henry, Dunn, etc. Add to that, he's a guy you don't have to smother at the three point line.
On the next level, who is a 6'2 SG in Bradley going to stop? The biggest thing against Bradley is he's a tweener. Henry is a 6'6 guy who can shoot lights out, post a player up, and drive. You said Bradley's not fair off, but Bradley can't shoot lights out and he cant post players up. Bradley has a decent pulll up game, but so does Henry. Also in your point to defense, on the college level, individual defense isn't as important as overall team defense. You talk as if Bradley is going to limit his man to 5 points a game, and Henry is going to be giving up 30. Defensively, what Bradley does is he's a hawk on the ball. That's a great attribute. But let's also be realistic about your assessment. He's not going to shut down guys like Willie Warren, James Anderson, Collins, Henry, Dunn, etc. Add to that, he's a guy you don't have to smother at the three point line.
blh111,
If there is one thing I know about Bill Self, his players will play defense. Xavier may not be a great defender in high school, but I promise you he will be for Bill Self at KU.
Anybody who saw WW at the beginning of the season defensively and at the end knows how players can improve defensively. WW went from our worst perimeter defender, to our best on ball defender and second best away from the ball defender.
WW was not our best on-ball defender at the end of the year. AJ, when healthy, and Tony were both better. I'd also say he was the worst off the ball. He struggled big time chasing shooters through screens. Got lost often.
Hate to give props to an okie kid that didn't and wouldn't even think about going to OU, but come on, Bradley is not even in X's league. It hurts me to say this, but if you are being objective about it, there really isn't any comparision between Henry and Bradley. Bradley is going to be a nice player, but Henry will be an utter failure if he is only a nice player.
If Self shapes him up mentally and physically, exactly like he did with Rush, Henry will be a lottery pick and NBA superstar. He is superstar tall, athletic and skilled for a wing. Does he have the discipline and mental part to become great, I don't know, but froma talent standpoint, there is no fair comparison. JMO.
If any college or NBA coach had to choose between Henry and Bradley, I feel pretty confident saying that all of them would choose Henry.