Really? The pundits picked KState to finish 4th?

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based on what?

they've got a couple of guys but 4th? the Big-12 is way deeper than that.
 
KSU may finished 4th from the bottom if they are lucky. They aren't that good.
 
Yeah picking them 4th was ridiculous. OU, Kansas, Texas, and Iowa State alone are better on paper easily coming into the season. Baylor and WVU are probably better too. They are playing tight with OSU in Stillwater but that's probably about where they were.
 
I guess I should give them some credit. they have maintained some tenacity in this game and have taken a lead.
 
I agree cool ... But both of these teams are bottom four in the league.
 
I guess I should give them some credit. they have maintained some tenacity in this game and have taken a lead.

And that's with Marcus Foster watching most of the first half from the bench. The announcers said Weber benched him to send a "deliberate" message. Marcus is clearly not happy about it either.

I agree that K-State is not even close to the fourth best team in the Big 12. As Pnkranger said, they'll be lucky to finish in the bottom four. OSU will, too. Their bench is going to make it really hard to finish higher than that.

I will say this, though. Phil Forte is a baller. I would love to have a player like him on my team.
 
Ok State is about to run them out of the building.
 
yep. Forte has a lot of chutzpah.

KState doesn't have the backcourt play to be in the top of this conference.
 
And yet KSU took Arizona to the wire.
 
They are awful, K-State. Missed about 7 layups even. Both teams playing in that game will be in the bottom 4 for sure
 
based on what?

Really? Maybe b/c they finished 5th last year, one game behind the 4th and 5th place teams, and only two games behind they 2nd place team. They returned their top 2 scorers, and only lost two major contributors (best I can tell).

It hasn't turned out that way, but on paper a few months ago, 4th/5th certainly looked reasonable.
 
The pundits picked KState to finish 4th?

Besides, pre-season polls mean squat. Just ask the OU football team. (Ouch)
 
KSU could easily finish top 4. I don't care what any poll or homer pundit says. The Big XII is not very good. Kansas will stroll through as usual.
 
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