Solving the Transfer Question: Let Them Play

[Price is Right]

you aren't getting the point.
It is a choice that they go to play football for a university...but without the university, there wouldn't be college football. That is why they are students first, athletes second. This is pro football.

So again, they can transfer and not have to sit out of school...but to play football they do b/c it would be the death of what we love about collge football

I was tempted to write another long post shredding the above comments as well, but it's clear you are more concerned with preserving the game than 17-20 year old kids and what their rights SHOULD be I'm done with your clown logic.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I'm sorry you can't see the difference, even when pointing it out yourself. Unpaid athletes whom the game depends on are punished if they wish to leave, paid coaches are not.... and again, it's obvious you have no interest in the kids well being, only in preserving the game how you know it.

LOL ok dude. Let me guess, you have a kid that you feel has been punished b/c he can't leave his school.

These kids knew what they were getting into. Nobody forced them to go to a school.

You really want any player to be able to leave whenever they want and play immediately at another school?

You really can't see the negative effects that this would be on the game that they signed up to play?

Abdul adams got benched for a fumble. He's pissed off and other teams' coaches know it. So they are going to be contacting him and making him promises to come to their program where he will be appreciated.

You would have super teams and kids moving all over the place. It would literally be the death of college football.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I was tempted to write another long post shredding the above comments as well, but it's clear you are more concerned with preserving the game than 17-20 year old kids and what their rights SHOULD be I'm done with your clown logic.

Yep!!! I don't care about the kids! They are slaves and all mine! har har har!!! We really duped those kids forcing them into something they had no knowledge about! We got them good! We own them for four years!

GTFU and go watch the nfl

 

[Price is Right]

LOL ok dude. Let me guess, you have a kid that you feel has been punished b/c he can't leave his school.

These kids knew what they were getting into. Nobody forced them to go to a school.

You really want any player to be able to leave whenever they want and play immediately at another school?

You really can't see the negative effects that this would be on the game that they signed up to play?

Abdul adams got benched for a fumble. He's pissed off and other teams' coaches know it. So they are going to be contacting him and making him promises to come to their program where he will be appreciated.

You would have super teams and kids moving all over the place. It would literally be the death of college football.

No kids, just a 26 year old former player, I do know the difference between right and wrong though. I don't let my love for a game blind me, hopefully you'll get there too someday.... what the NFL has to do with college basketball and the Bilas article is beyond me... keep reaching guy.

 

[skyvue]

This argument is always laughable to me. They receive a free education so we "own" them?

I get that you're passionate on this issue, but don't put words in my mouth.

Of course we don't own them, but there is a system in place and the athletes willingly and voluntarily seek to be a part of that system. Some rules are in place to help ensure continuity and parity. An individual player may find those restrictions problematic under certain circumstances, but it's not as though he didn't know them coming in.

Balancing the near-future of a basketball program, one that may well have done nothing wrong whatsoever, on the mercurial whims of a couple of 18- or 19-year-olds is asking a lot. There are many people involved in a college athletic program, including thousands of fans, and they could all be negatively impacted by a teenager's rash decision. Players sit out a year all the time -- for academic reasons, redshirts, etc. It's not that big a deal.

 

[Price is Right]

I get that you're passionate on this issue, but don't put words in my mouth.

I apologize I shouldn't have put it in quotations. I do think that you're essentially implying universities own players with the argument you used, which was that the university does so many positive things for them/investing in them (agree to disagree) that they can't and shouldn't be allowed to leave without consequence.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I apologize I shouldn't have put it in quotations. I do think that you're essentially implying universities own players with the argument you used,

no use even continuing this discussion

 

[Price is Right]

no use even continuing this discussion[/QUOTE

Agreed, you ran out of anything worth saying a while back. Keep peddling that same sorry excuse over and over.

 

[usedtobe1]

I don't want to get involved in this debate, but there are 3 sides to the player transfer debate. First, there is a player who turns out to be a star for his current school and wants to transfer to a "blue blood" school thus leaving his current school in a bind because they don't want him to transfer. I'm not even going to discuss this side of the transfer although I don't think it happens that often. The player is getting plenty of playing time and has bonded with his teammates off the court, so why leave? It happens though and would happen more often if the player could play immediately elsewhere.

Then there are the kids who get "recruited over" at their current school. They still want to play somewhere where they can get more playing time. OU had 2 of those players last season who decided to transfer: Darrion Strong and Dante Buford. OU was probably happy they transferred because it opened up those scholarships to better players. I particularly hate seeing Dante Buford sit out his transfer year because he had already used his redshirt. I would have have loved to see him get to play this year for Steve Henson at UTSA... and imagine Kruger and his staff would, too. At least Darrion Strong has a redshirt year to allow his shoulder to heal. I hope he does well next season. Schools need and want players to transfer if they're not going to play much. They only have 13 scholarships and transfers allow them to bring in better players. As deep as the team is this year, I bet we see at least 1 transfer after this season. Just my humble opinion..... these are the more common type of transfers.

I know there really is a 3rd kind of transfer, too. Those are the players who break team rules or are bad for the chemistry of the team, and Kruger has had his share of those (Grandstaff, Booker).

 

[Price is Right]

There is a 4th type of transfer as well. How about former OSU player cezar guerro? Not sure of the spelling but played point for OSU before transferring back out near LA to be close to his Ill mother.. it might not be the norm but not all transfers are about the school, playing time, program, or coaches. Sometimes there are more personal issues at stake.

 

[usedtobe1]

There is a 4th type of transfer as well. How about former OSU player cezar guerro? Not sure of the spelling but played point for OSU before transferring back out near LA to be close to his Ill mother.. it might not be the norm but not all transfers are about the school, playing time, program, or coaches. Sometimes there are more personal issues at stake.

Agreed. Cezar Guerrero transferred to Fresno State.

 

[Darwin]

There is a 4th type of transfer as well. How about former OSU player cezar guerro? Not sure of the spelling but played point for OSU before transferring back out near LA to be close to his Ill mother.. it might not be the norm but not all transfers are about the school, playing time, program, or coaches. Sometimes there are more personal issues at stake.

You are correct and in certain cases the NCAA will give immediate eligibility.

Truth is, no player is forced to stay at that school, period. No player is forced to not play after leaving a NCAA institution. He could move to a pro team or a lower division school where he can also get a college degree. It's only if he wants to remain D1 that these transfer rules apply. It's the players choice.

 

[snydrosooner]

Some academic scholarships have limits on transferring as well. Family member signed academic scholarship with OU that included housing, room and board and included on campus research job. Contract he signed stated if he left OU before graduating he would be responsible to pay certain portion of costs back to the university. This is how they were getting some of the national merit finalists to come to OU.

 

[SoonerInJersey]

Some academic scholarships have limits on transferring as well. Family member signed academic scholarship with OU that included housing, room and board and included on campus research job. Contract he signed stated if he left OU before graduating he would be responsible to pay certain portion of costs back to the university. This is how they were getting some of the national merit finalists to come to OU.

Thanks for the information. I was wondering about that.