Steve Pledger against good teams

It should be noted that thebigabd has repented for his sins against Steven Pledger since this thread was started last summer, and I have forgiven him for his shortsightedness. :D


He has repented, until we lose a couple of games in a row where Pledger did not play well.


Then, there will be a multitude of abd threads about how terrible Pledger is against real competition and that he (along with the majority of our roster) isn't worthy of a scholarship at OU.
 
It should be noted that thebigabd has repented for his sins against Steven Pledger since this thread was started last summer, and I have forgiven him for his shortsightedness. :D



Or until Nebraska and TCU bring in classes full of JUCOs and Europeans all of whom are surefire NBA lottery picks.
 
Do you guys root for OU to win because you actually like our team, or just because you want to prove posters you don't like wrong? Sheesh. Can't we all just enjoy the ****ing win?
 
Do you guys root for OU to win because you actually like our team, or just because you want to prove posters you don't like wrong? Sheesh. Can't we all just enjoy the ****ing win?

In all fairness Tony, ABD has earned a little scorn because he simply beat his chest and made the entire board his forum to bash Capel and certain players last year. The question you asked is exactly what I was asking last yr. I'm almost certain we had a few who rooted against us silently, just so Capel would be fired. It was obvious who they were, very vocal after losses, invisible after wins.:facepalm:facepalm

I certainly know you were not part of that, and are not part of any of that now, but it did happen, and obviously some wanted the chance to give it back a little.

Hopefully it will end completely, but knowing the history of message boards, I don't expect it.....
 
In all fairness Tony, ABD has earned a little scorn because he simply beat his chest and made the entire board his forum to bash Capel and certain players last year.

So let me get this straight.....

ABD hypes up some teams and players, or is negative about some teams and players, and since he is so vocal about it, it's okay to rip him when he is wrong.

But on the flip side, you've been posting all day about how it's lame to keep busting Capel's chops, despite the fact that SEVERAL posters on the board defended him like he was their grandfather? I'm sorry, but I call BS on that.
 
So let me get this straight.....

ABD hypes up some teams and players, or is negative about some teams and players, and since he is so vocal about it, it's okay to rip him when he is wrong.

But on the flip side, you've been posting all day about how it's lame to keep busting Capel's chops, despite the fact that SEVERAL posters on the board defended him like he was their grandfather? I'm sorry, but I call BS on that.

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Be sure to put new batteries in your Capel Alert System. You might miss a thread/post.
 
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Be sure to put new batteries in your Capel Alert System. You might miss a thread/post.

I will hold my head high in that I was absolutely, 100% correct on my evaluations of Capel as OU's coach. Most on this board have admitted they were wrong about Capel. There are still a handful that are too proud. I don't mention the man much anymore. But I certainly don't fault those that still want to, or need to, get it out of their system.
 
I will hold my head high in that I was absolutely, 100% correct on my evaluations of Capel as OU's coach. Most on this board have admitted they were wrong about Capel. There are still a handful that are too proud. I don't mention the man much anymore. But I certainly don't fault those that still want to, or need to, get it out of their system.


Again I ask who here is still saying they think Capel should be coaching???? I have not seen that once since LK took over. Most everyone agrees with you!!!! A blind man can see that JC struggled and a change was good. The difference is some have the need to beat their chests about it, and others don't.......
 
I will hold my head high in that I was absolutely, 100% correct on my evaluations of Capel as OU's coach. Most on this board have admitted they were wrong about Capel. There are still a handful that are too proud. I don't mention the man much anymore. But I certainly don't fault those that still want to, or need to, get it out of their system.

So, those of us who supported Coach Capel were WRONG..about WHAT? I never remembered a single poster saying they thought Jeff Capel was a better head coach than either Coach Tubbs or Coach Sampson. I also don't remember a single poster saying that Coach Kruger wasn't a big step up from Coach Capel. So again, WHAT WERE THESE POSTERS WRONG ABOUT?

Like JMizzy, I supported ALL of OU's coaches...believe it or not, there's nothing actually wrong with that. Here's another coaching example. My cousin in Bloomington, Indiana, likes to remind me that one would be shot on site for mentioning the words "Kelvin Sampson". That doesn't mean I was wrong for thinking he's a great coach, right?

I'll give you an example of someone being wrong. Back in 2008, OU FINALLY won a first-round toss-up game in the NCAA Tournament. However, a poster hated Jeff Capel so much that he had a complete "meltdown" after the victory...became such a "cancer" to those celebrating the victory, that he had to be banned before the 2nd round game. An OU fan having a meltdown after a victory would be a much better example of someone being "wrong."
 
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In June of 2010, the dearly departed Cheno posted on this board about Marcus Denmon's mediocrity.



thebigabd, who at the time was on a Mizzou kick, had this to say in response, along with repeated assertions that Denmon was a "good player."



For what it's worth, Denmon was coming off a sophomore season in which he averaged 10.4 points per game. He shot 42.9% from the field and 40.7% from three. Last year he averaged 16.9 on 50%/44.8%, and this year he's a leading candidate for Big 12 player of the year and a potential All-American.

Pledger as a sophomore? 10.9 points on 39.3%/35%. Through the first third of his junior season (which is the easiest part of the schedule, but still...), his numbers mirror Denmon's junior breakthrough.

I don't think Pledger is really in Denmon's league as an overall player now, nor do I think he ever will be. Denmon beats Pledger in almost every other phase of the game. But when it comes to putting points on the board, Pledger has the potential to be among the conference's best.

Odd that abd saw that potential in Denmon just a year ago, arguing in his favor against the exact same spin he used prior to this season to tear down one of his own. He even claimed the idea of including games against Nebraska, Colorado and Iowa State was a red herring... when in his defense of Denmon a year ago he included two games against Nebraska and Colorado.

While I agree Denmon's a better player, I think the bold is a bit of an embellishment. Pledger's been lighting it up on offense, and is ranked in the Top 5 (among Big 12 players) in steals, which tells me he's getting it done on both ends of the floor. This opinion could change as both teams get into league play, but right now I don't think the gap between both players is as wide as you are stating.
 
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