Stevie Clark

Mac said:
O please, Obama Won my state!
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Okay?

"Your" state has the most infamous police brutality on a minority of all time.

Your comment seemed oddly out of place.
 
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Mac said:
O please, Obama Won my state!
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You say that like it is a good thing. Obama has spent 6.350 Trillion Dollars since being elected. He didn't inherit Trillion Dollar deficits. That is a complete lie. Go here:http://www.usdebtclock.org/2008.html the deficit was less than 500 Billion when he was elected. I wouldn't be proud of supporting the most fiscally irresponsible President in the history of the country. Obama is such a fool he has not even gotten a single budget passed as President but you proudly support him. Liberals and young people are fools.
 
Yeah Denver, he inherited such a great economy from bush. Hard to believe he could screw things up like he did!! Wow, you conservatives know your stuff. Do you even have a clue that he spent that money to try to get us out of the worst era since the Great Depression? Think before you type dude!!! And I'm not saying he's a great president, as time will tell on that. But to act like he just spent that money for no reason is foolish!!!!
 
WTSooner said:
I'm sure if you had a HS son that was caught in a car with kids with drugs, you'd just chalk it up to bad luck.

:facepalm
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Depends on the "drugs." If it were pot, I honestly wouldn't care that much.

I was around people with pot all throughout high school and college, and I turned out fine.
 
oSuJeff97 said:
Depends on the "drugs." If it were pot, I honestly wouldn't care that much.

I was around people with pot all throughout high school and college, and I turned out fine.
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I wouldn't be mad about the pot. I would be mad that he put himself in that position. If you are a high D-1 prospect, you have to know better. Whether it is fair or not, you are held to a different standard than your friends. You can't hang out with them, if they're going to get you in trouble.
 
boksooner said:
I wouldn't be mad about the pot. I would be mad that he put himself in that position. If you are a high D-1 prospect, you have to know better. Whether it is fair or not, you are held to a different standard than your friends. You can't hang out with them, if they're going to get you in trouble.
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Agreed.

So did this whole thing actually happen or not? Anyone know?
 
actually I am a criminal defense attorney and these arrests are frequent in Oklahoma. Car is pulled over and drugs are found in floorboard = everyone within reaching distance can be charged and usually (read that as 'in this county') both driver and passenger or both passengers and driver are charged. IMO they overcharge the crap out of constructive possession cases (and domestics), but it has withstood CCA scrutiny so don't think you'll be getting off if it happens to you. Just goes to show that you're charged with the company you keep.
 
I can assure you (although that would/should mean nothing as you all don't know me) that the information is very legit. I can't give any other details (and you will also notice I never said he used), but I also think it shows something about the company he has been keeping. I hope for his sake he gets it together and is successfull--I'm just very happy that CLK went with Jordan Woodard as his pursuit rather than Stevie.
 
but I also think it shows something about the company he has been keeping.
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Without knowing any specific details, I'll just say this --

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of all high school students have friends who use some kind of illegal substance, whether it's pot or booze or whatever.

They just don't all get caught.
 
oSuJeff97 said:
Without knowing any specific details, I'll just say this --

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of all high school students have friends who use some kind of illegal substance, whether it's pot or booze or whatever.

They just don't all get caught.
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This
 
oSuJeff97 said:
Without knowing any specific details, I'll just say this --

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of all high school students have friends who use some kind of illegal substance, whether it's pot or booze or whatever.

They just don't all get caught.
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So you think something like 75% of HS students regularly do drugs or drink alcohol?

Maybe in certain areas of the country, but no way that applies to most schools in Oklahoma, or the country as a whole. Not a chance.
 
boksooner said:
I don't think these mean the same thing
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You are right, misread that the first time.

But knowing somebody that does those things, and knowing somebody enough to be in a car with the, is still two different things. You can't help who you go to school with, and to some extent, have to interact with. You can control who you spend your free time away from school with.
 
WTSooner said:
You are right, misread that the first time.

But knowing somebody that does those things, and knowing somebody enough to be in a car with the, is still two different things. You can't help who you go to school with, and to some extent, have to interact with. You can control who you spend your free time away from school with.
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Right. But one kid getting caught with something one time doesn't necessarily mean he's a "bad seed" or a "bad kid." It just simply means that he was a HS kid who had something on him. It's pretty common.

Heck, I was in HS 20 years ago and it was relatively common back then. I only drank once or twice in HS and never did drugs, but I did sit in a car with a few of my friends a couple of times while they smoked pot. They were guys who finished in the top 10 of my class and both went to really good colleges (one went Ivy League) and are now highly successful. It never would have occurred to me that there was anything wrong with them that would make me not want to hang out with them.

I'm not saying that's the case here... he may indeed be hanging out with the "wrong" guys, but I just don't think that a HS kid having pot on him is iron-clad evidence of that.
 
It's doubtul I will ever say this again, but OSUjeff is right on in this thread.
 
oSuJeff97 said:
Depends on the "drugs." If it were pot, I honestly wouldn't care that much.

I was around people with pot all throughout high school and college, and I turned out fine.
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I am not a parent but if this is truly your position I would contend you are not a good parent. A parent should not condone, accept, tollerate, or ignore drug or alcohol use by their child. I believe a parent should set rules not be a friend to their child. (I don't mean you can't be a friend just that being a parent comes first and requires some boundaries.)
 
DenverSooner said:
I am not a parent but if this is truly your position I would contend you are not a good parent. A parent should not condone, accept, tollerate, or ignore drug or alcohol use by their child. I believe a parent should set rules not be a friend to their child. (I don't mean you can't be a friend just that being a parent comes first and requires some boundaries.)
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I'd say your first phrase excludes you from stating your second phrase.
 
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