The Season So Far

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Just going to show some stats comparing our KenPom %s over the last 4 years and this year with cupcakes and some bad games under our belt.

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Things we are doing well, compared to the previous seasons:

ON OFFENSE
-TO%, almost a record for us it feels like being under 15%...taking care of the ball at a Top-25 rate in KenPom.
-OR%, Finally...REBOUNDING ON OFFENSE! Yes, to be expected in OOC, but over 35%, next closest being 30.1% and ranked 74th in the nation.
-2P%, this is something that Moser teams do well. 58th in the nation now but pretty par for Moser teams.
-3PA, this is the highest rate of 3PA we have had under Moser's tenure. We are hitting at a worst 33.3% clip, so maybe not the best thing to be good at with volume.
-AdjO, we are actually 29th in offense this year. Tied for our highest rate last year rank wise, but highest value under Moser this year. (I expect it to go down with conf play)

ON DEFENSE
-FTR, FT Rate is at 64th in the nation and the lowest under Moser. I see this changing in conf play, but fouling less on shots is nice.
-2P%, We are defending the 2 at a very high rate, 55th in the nation and our highest defensively by far.


Things we are NOT doing well, compared to the previous seasons:

ON OFFENSE
-eFG%, this is the lowest, at 98th in the nation, that it has been under Moser's tenure. I think this is seen in the higher 3PA and lower 3P%.
-FTR, we are back to the below midway of all Div-I in getting to the line. Seen with our higher 3PA.
-3P%, this is the worst rate in Moser's tenure. Add that to our highest 3PA and this is a very bid discrepancy for our scoring and efficiency.
-FT%, I will say this is more negligable, being we are still at 74% which is a solid rate IMO, but 4th lowest in Moser's 5 years.

ON DEFENSE
-eFG%, TO%, OR%, we are middle of the road of all Div-I in all of these aspects. These are all 4th in Moser's tenure ranked over the last 5 years.
-3P%, this is our achilles heel. There is no doubt, 303rd ranked in Div-I and the next closest % we have been in his career is 31.8%. We are at 37%?! That is wild.
-AdjD, total adjust defensive efficiency, the worst it has been in Moser's tenure. 116th ranked ... the next closest has been 60th.


So moral of the story is our defense has been letting us down. Our offense is on par with our best season last year ,which was a 9 seed and we haven't made it to SEC play yet. Our defense has just been the worst in Moser's 5 years.

Bright spot? Defense is effort. If you can get guys to play defense better, secure better closeouts at the 3pt and better rotations you can close that gap much quicker than you can on offense. Downside? Half of the teams we have played are ranked 297 or lower in KenPom. We still have 3 more of those gutter stompers left before conference play.

Downside? Conference play starts Jan 3. We play KenPom ranked teams of 8, 13, 14, 18, 20, 23, 27, 29, 40, 44, 51, 52, 54, 58, 83, and 85. If you say we beat 83 and 85, okay...that is 2 wins. Then the games in the 40-58 range are BIG coin flips...the 8-29 teams, almost a loss unless we overcome. That predicted record looks like this:

8-29: 0-8
40-58: 4-4
83, 85: 2-0

6-12, not optimistic to think about, but a realistic look at where we stand right now. KenPom has predicted that we finish 7-11 with a 17-14 end of season record.

So can we scrape together more Wake Forest type of effort games?
Or are we bound for a mix of head-scratching Arizona St losses and Nebraska heartbreaks while constantly looking at high end producing G5 coaches.
 

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Just going to show some stats comparing our KenPom %s over the last 4 years and this year with cupcakes and some bad games under our belt.

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Things we are doing well, compared to the previous seasons:

ON OFFENSE
-TO%, almost a record for us it feels like being under 15%...taking care of the ball at a Top-25 rate in KenPom.
-OR%, Finally...REBOUNDING ON OFFENSE! Yes, to be expected in OOC, but over 35%, next closest being 30.1% and ranked 74th in the nation.
-2P%, this is something that Moser teams do well. 58th in the nation now but pretty par for Moser teams.
-3PA, this is the highest rate of 3PA we have had under Moser's tenure. We are hitting at a worst 33.3% clip, so maybe not the best thing to be good at with volume.
-AdjO, we are actually 29th in offense this year. Tied for our highest rate last year rank wise, but highest value under Moser this year. (I expect it to go down with conf play)

ON DEFENSE
-FTR, FT Rate is at 64th in the nation and the lowest under Moser. I see this changing in conf play, but fouling less on shots is nice.
-2P%, We are defending the 2 at a very high rate, 55th in the nation and our highest defensively by far.


Things we are NOT doing well, compared to the previous seasons:

ON OFFENSE
-eFG%, this is the lowest, at 98th in the nation, that it has been under Moser's tenure. I think this is seen in the higher 3PA and lower 3P%.
-FTR, we are back to the below midway of all Div-I in getting to the line. Seen with our higher 3PA.
-3P%, this is the worst rate in Moser's tenure. Add that to our highest 3PA and this is a very bid discrepancy for our scoring and efficiency.
-FT%, I will say this is more negligable, being we are still at 74% which is a solid rate IMO, but 4th lowest in Moser's 5 years.

ON DEFENSE
-eFG%, TO%, OR%, we are middle of the road of all Div-I in all of these aspects. These are all 4th in Moser's tenure ranked over the last 5 years.
-3P%, this is our achilles heel. There is no doubt, 303rd ranked in Div-I and the next closest % we have been in his career is 31.8%. We are at 37%?! That is wild.
-AdjD, total adjust defensive efficiency, the worst it has been in Moser's tenure. 116th ranked ... the next closest has been 60th.


So moral of the story is our defense has been letting us down. Our offense is on par with our best season last year ,which was a 9 seed and we haven't made it to SEC play yet. Our defense has just been the worst in Moser's 5 years.

Bright spot? Defense is effort. If you can get guys to play defense better, secure better closeouts at the 3pt and better rotations you can close that gap much quicker than you can on offense. Downside? Half of the teams we have played are ranked 297 or lower in KenPom. We still have 3 more of those gutter stompers left before conference play.

Downside? Conference play starts Jan 3. We play KenPom ranked teams of 8, 13, 14, 18, 20, 23, 27, 29, 40, 44, 51, 52, 54, 58, 83, and 85. If you say we beat 83 and 85, okay...that is 2 wins. Then the games in the 40-58 range are BIG coin flips...the 8-29 teams, almost a loss unless we overcome. That predicted record looks like this:

8-29: 0-8
40-58: 4-4
83, 85: 2-0

6-12, not optimistic to think about, but a realistic look at where we stand right now. KenPom has predicted that we finish 7-11 with a 17-14 end of season record.

So can we scrape together more Wake Forest type of effort games?
Or are we bound for a mix of head-scratching Arizona St losses and Nebraska heartbreaks while constantly looking at high end producing G5 coaches.
Phenomenal work
 
A gloomy outlook. Getting destroyed at the 3pt line both ways, so maybe some luck flips there. Other than that, 17-14 with this roster and schedule would be disappointing.
 
Let's say OU does not make the dance this year based on these predictions, is that it for Moser?
 
Btw, from Is it Time for Kentucky, Kansas State, Ole Miss and Others to Panic?: "10 More Players, Coaches and Teams Showing Signs of Disaster":

"6. Xzayvier Brown – Oklahoma guard
The 6-foot-2 junior was another key offseason move, and overall, Brown has been fine for Oklahoma, averaging 13.1 points and 3.4 assists per game. Yet some warning signs have emerged for him against high-major opponents, averaging 7.3 points per game against Marquette, Wake Forest and Arizona State, shooting 7 of 30 from the field and 0 for 14 from three-point range. While 6-foot senior guard Nijel Pack (17.2 points per game) has played well, the Sooners will need more from Brown as SEC play approaches."
 
Btw, from Is it Time for Kentucky, Kansas State, Ole Miss and Others to Panic?: "10 More Players, Coaches and Teams Showing Signs of Disaster":

"6. Xzayvier Brown – Oklahoma guard
The 6-foot-2 junior was another key offseason move, and overall, Brown has been fine for Oklahoma, averaging 13.1 points and 3.4 assists per game. Yet some warning signs have emerged for him against high-major opponents, averaging 7.3 points per game against Marquette, Wake Forest and Arizona State, shooting 7 of 30 from the field and 0 for 14 from three-point range. While 6-foot senior guard Nijel Pack (17.2 points per game) has played well, the Sooners will need more from Brown as SEC play approaches."
I said a couple weeks ago they I’m getting McCollum vibes. That dude actually was better in noncon before flopping in conference play. Smaller guards without elite athleticism and who have to make a big jump in competition can really struggle. The preseason talk was that he was not necessarily having an easy time with the adjustment. If he can’t rediscover his shot, he’ll be in for a tough season.
 
Thanks for the interesting work TEvans. And, it pretty much matches what we have all seen. Inconsistent from the 3 and weak defensively.

Like you state, you can sometimes improve defense as it is mostly "want to" or effort. And, I think we have the size and length to defend if we can get the kids to put out the effort.

Offensively, I mostly like the shot selection so far. Just got to shoot the ball better. Most surprising thing for me this year is the poor shooting from Dayton and X brown. Both are proven shooters, so maybe it is just a temporary slump (hopefully).
 
Looks like they'll be a high variance team. If they hit their shots, they can hang with anybody...if they don't, they don't have a floor to rely on. They're a modern NBA team!
 
Mercurial is the word that comes to mind when describing this team thus far.
 
For those who want to continue playing the “it’s early” card or argue these games aren’t critical, Lusk just cited this from Torvik’a forecast: if we win Saturday and go .500 in conference, we have a 49 percent chance to make the tourney. Lose Saturday and go .500 in conference, and we are at 30 percent.

Obviously both numbers are even lower if we do what we have done in every Moser season and finish below .500. Suffice it to say, Saturday is a huge game. OSU is off to a very good start and is putting up huge offensive numbers, but they haven’t played a challenging schedule. If we lose this one … oh boy.
 
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For those who want to continue playing the “it’s early” card or argue these games aren’t critical, Lusk just cited this from Torvik’a forecast: if we win Saturday and go .500 in conference, we have a 49 percent chance to make the tourney. Lose Saturday and go .500 in conference, and we are at 30 percent.

Obviously both numbers are even lower if we do what we have done in every Moser season and finish below .500. Suffice it to say, Saturday is a huge game. OSU is off to a very good start and is putting up huge offensive numbers, but they haven’t played a challenging schedule. If we lose this one … oh boy.
It’s a make or break game. Anyone who even halfway knows college basketball knows this.
 
Going to add some updated stats stuff for your nerdy nerds (me):

EvanMiya has OU ranked 38th.
21st on Offense
86th on Defense

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OU also has 3 guys in the SEC top-50 for individual player ratings in EvanMiya:

24. Nigel Pack
29. Mohammad Wague
42. Xzayvier Brown

Nigel Pack is rated as 5th in Offensive BPR in all of the SEC.


It is funny looking at the OFF and DEF Eff for the games on the top right.

Arizona St, we laid an offensive egg.
Nebraska, we lad a BIG defensive egg.
Gonzaga, we got shut down.



Duke Miles...8th in the SEC.
 

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Honestly, the Nebraska game will be the one that got away. Arizona State was what it was. We just played terrible on both sides of the ball. Bad effort. The Nebraska game we could and should have won.
 
Also, we haven't played 3 good defensive games in a row...that's terrible. Have to fix that side of the ball.
 
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