Trae Young summer league

[steverocks35]

Again you are not listening to my argument. I said he was better than one thing and he improved from his sophomore year. And yes he was good at those things.

I watched all his games and I stand by my assessment.

 

[skyvue]

Remember Norman North improved after he left. They didn't have much talent his senior year (although those guys did better the next year) but they did have talent his junior year.

One could spin that a couple of ways: One, that TY was a cancer and NN was lucky to be rid of him or -- and I'll admit that I think this is the more logical and accurate angle on it -- that basketball is a team game and the other players' improvement made up for TY's departure.

If you're going with the first take, then you must be predicting that OU will be improved this year, too, yes? I hope you're right. I'll be very pleased with 20+ wins and a trip to the tourney in 2019. But if we don't achieve that, will you still blame TY?

It's funny, but I don't recall all the guys who now trash TY and insist they've felt that way about him all along offering even a word of warning when we signed him. And I don't recall many complaints as TY and the team enjoyed a stellar first half of the season. His questionable defense occasionally got mentioned, but there were no serious alarms about his play.

And in his typical fashion, abd, the King of the Cherry-Pickers, has mentioned only Big 12 play in his recent posts about TY. It's as if he, like Rumplestiltskin, fell asleep in early November and didn't wake up until January 6.

 

[steverocks35]

One could spin that a couple of ways: One, that TY was a cancer and NN was lucky to be rid of him or -- and I'll admit that I think this is the more logical and accurate angle on it -- that basketball is a team game and the other players' improvement made up for TY's departure.

If you're going with the first take, then you must be predicting that OU will be improved this year, too, yes? I hope you're right. I'll be very pleased with 20+ wins and a trip to the tourney in 2019. But if we don't achieve that, will you still blame TY?

It's funny, but I don't recall all the guys who now trash TY and insist they've felt that way about him all along offering even a word of warning when we signed him. And I don't recall many complaints as TY and the team enjoyed a stellar first half of the season. His questionable defense occasionally got mentioned, but there were no serious alarms about his play.

And in his typical fashion, abd, the King of the Cherry-Pickers, has mentioned only Big 12 play in his recent posts about TY. It's as if he, like Rumplestiltskin, fell asleep in early November and didn't wake up until January 6.

+1

 

[steverocks35]

Anyone who blames Trae Young for the performance of last year's team should go back and watch our loss in the NCAA tournament. It was a microcosm of the season.

 

[61sooner]

If Trae plays for KU last season, would OU have won more than 10 games, I doubt it.
The late season collapse was terrible but the Trae breathed some life in a program going in the wrong direction.
Thanks Trae for staying in norman.

 

[Salt City Sooner]

Welp......

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24011613/trae-young-atlanta-hawks-grayson-allen-utah-jazz-get-altercation-summer-league

 

[OULad]

I got called crazy on here for saying TY wasnt going to be a great pro. I said I wouldnt take him in the lottery. He has a lot of flaws in his game for that level. Hes undersized and can no way defend his position, and hes not particularly athletic. He may end up being ok, but he was drafted way too high.

 

[WaymanFan]

To put it mildly, it has been a tough going of it in the Summer League for Trae. However, it really depends on how much emphasis you want to put into these games. Buddy had a pretty miserable Summer League two years ago, and he made 1st Team NBA All-Rookie. I remember Buddy also struggled last year in the same Summer League. Multiple sports writers were then saying he already peaked as a rookie...they turned out to be wrong. Again, perhaps too much emphasis is getting put into these games...but we'll find out soon enough.

 

[thebigabd]

These are worthless pickup games... Just watch one and it looks more like practice than a game. I don't know what the hell the people in this thread are talking about when they say its some kind of legitimate basketball, but it isnt.

That being said... he didn't do anything to make Atlanta feel good about giving up Doncic for him. Wont' know anything until about Xmas on him.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I got called crazy on here for saying TY wasnt going to be a great pro. I said I wouldnt take him in the lottery. He has a lot of flaws in his game for that level. Hes undersized and can no way defend his position, and hes not particularly athletic. He may end up being ok, but he was drafted way too high.

Well see

 

[vbdad]

One could spin that a couple of ways: One, that TY was a cancer and NN was lucky to be rid of him or -- and I'll admit that I think this is the more logical and accurate angle on it -- that basketball is a team game and the other players' improvement made up for TY's departure.

If you're going with the first take, then you must be predicting that OU will be improved this year, too, yes? I hope you're right. I'll be very pleased with 20+ wins and a trip to the tourney in 2019. But if we don't achieve that, will you still blame TY?

It's funny, but I don't recall all the guys who now trash TY and insist they've felt that way about him all along offering even a word of warning when we signed him. And I don't recall many complaints as TY and the team enjoyed a stellar first half of the season. His questionable defense occasionally got mentioned, but there were no serious alarms about his play.

And in his typical fashion, abd, the King of the Cherry-Pickers, has mentioned only Big 12 play in his recent posts about TY. It's as if he, like Rumplestiltskin, fell asleep in early November and didn't wake up until January 6.

I hope we are better but I don't know that will happen. TY was obviously the best player on the team. He did unbelievable stuff for at least the first half of the year. It certainly changed the way teams were defending him. He was still putting up huge numbers but with more usage. The others guys didn't help out at all as their games also fell off. I will say there was horrible chemistry on the team by the time conference rolled around. There was a lack of leadership as there was the year before. TY was a freshman so he wasn't supposed to be the leader. He also didn't want that part of the job.

As for his defense I said he was terrible at it. Then stated he didn't try. It is impossible to play defense without effort. So yes there is the possibility he can defend but he hasn't shown it so I can't say he is a good defender. He has to be better than he showed at OU because it was pathetic. He carried such a huge load offensively it is understandable he wouldn't play much defense. He should have been rested more so he could give effort on both ends. Unfortunately we didn't have anybody else doing anything.

So will we be better? Less talented for sure, I'm hoping effort and better chemistry will get us to about the same record as last year. Who knows though.

 

[thebigabd]

One could spin that a couple of ways: One, that TY was a cancer and NN was lucky to be rid of him or -- and I'll admit that I think this is the more logical and accurate angle on it -- that basketball is a team game and the other players' improvement made up for TY's departure.

If you're going with the first take, then you must be predicting that OU will be improved this year, too, yes? I hope you're right. I'll be very pleased with 20+ wins and a trip to the tourney in 2019. But if we don't achieve that, will you still blame TY?

It's funny, but I don't recall all the guys who now trash TY and insist they've felt that way about him all along offering even a word of warning when we signed him. And I don't recall many complaints as TY and the team enjoyed a stellar first half of the season. His questionable defense occasionally got mentioned, but there were no serious alarms about his play.

And in his typical fashion, abd, the King of the Cherry-Pickers, has mentioned only Big 12 play in his recent posts about TY. It's as if he, like Rumplestiltskin, fell asleep in early November and didn't wake up until January 6.

Sky,

The official OU website and official Big 12 conference website lists stats for your cupcakes, and stats against your conference competition. I don't consider looking at this performance against good teams to be some sort of cherry-picking.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Sky,

The official OU website and official Big 12 conference website lists stats for your cupcakes, and stats against your conference competition. I don't consider looking at this performance against good teams to be some sort of cherry-picking.

How about when you handpick his poor shooting games against good teams while leaving out all the good games he played against those opponents? Was Kansas not a good opponent when Trae diced them up in the LNC? Again, you clearly picked games that support your argument while intentionally omitting other games. That's absolutely cherry picking. And for the record, I'm not someone who is unwilling to acknowledge Trae's weakness. Especially at the NBA level, his below average athleticism means he will have to work hard on his game to be successful. But if I'm evaulating his college season, I look at the entire season.

 

[thebigabd]

How about when you handpick his poor shooting games against good teams while leaving out all the good games he played against those opponents? Was Kansas not a good opponent when Trae diced them up in the LNC? Again, you clearly picked games that support your argument while intentionally omitting other games. That's absolutely cherry picking. And for the record, I'm not someone who is unwilling to acknowledge Trae's weakness. Especially at the NBA level, his below average athleticism means he will have to work hard on his game to be successful. But if I'm evaulating his college season, I look at the entire season.

The overall numbers I posted were ALL big 12 conference games... 32% from 3 and 39% from the field. I chose the games I did saying its not totally uncommon for him to have a 1-10 for type of game, as he did in the summer league.

 

[sperry]

The overall numbers I posted were ALL big 12 conference games... 32% from 3 and 39% from the field. I chose the games I did saying its not totally uncommon for him to have a 1-10 for type of game, as he did in the summer league.

You are legitimately the absolute worst. There is no logic or reason to whatever nonsense is bouncing around in your brain, but you continue to repeat it as nauseum, in some cases for years i.e. The juco garbage.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I know it isn't nearly as fun for some of you because it involves a former Sooner having a good game but check out Cousins's box score from last night. He is playing with the Timberwolves in the Vegas summer league. I really would love to see him make a roster this season as a guy who can defend and make shots.

 

[BCSooners]

I know it isn't nearly as fun for some of you because it involves a former Sooner having a good game but check out Cousins's box score from last night. He is playing with the Timberwolves in the Vegas summer league. I really would love to see him make a roster this season as a guy who can defend and make shots.

Him and Hollis are my favorite all time Sooners. Really hope he can find a place somewhere, seems like TWolves with Thibs would be a great fit.

 

[coolm]

too bad Trae didnt just pound the snot out of Graysen Allen for pulling more of his crap. It is my hope someone breaks his jaw when he trips them and he gets kicked out of the NBA. I can't stand that guy.

 

[WaymanFan]

I see Trae had his first respectable game of the Summer League. He was 3-9 from 3-pt range (4-12 overall), but had an 11-3 assist-to-turnover rate and was +9 when in the game.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

I see Trae had his first respectable game of the Summer League. He was 3-9 from 3-pt range (4-12 overall), but had an 11-3 assist-to-turnover rate and was +9 when in the game.

Here is an article on that game ...

July 7, 2018 / The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Updated: Young better, but Hawks lose to Knicks

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/young-better-but-hawks-fall-knicks/fpE8CEluizB6BH2CD0MZfO/

The Hawks play their second preliminary round game against the Trail Blazers on Sunday at 5:30 p.m. on ESPN2.

That is today at 4:30 p.m. Central Time.