Transfer Portal 2027

WichitaSooner said:
Was just reading some of the profiles on The Athletic's list of the top 50 portal players. Of note to us, it was generally high on Mingo, but did say that if he and his brother want to play together, their games aren't complementary of one another "since they're both weak shooters from distance." Re: Kayden, they note that he has "longe been a sub-30 percent 3-point shooter." They do like his overall game, though, and consider him a very good defender. Offensively, they like his slashing and midrange game.
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Similar to that, here's an excerpt from a 247 article on the top 30 portal players, with Kayden at #30. It lists the top 100 but only has write-ups on the top 30.
"Numbers to know: 13.7 points, 4.3 assists, 3.5 rebounds

The scout: Kayden Mingo is a true set-the-table point guard with positional size and defensive chops. Mingo posted a 2-to-1, assist-to-turnover ratio last year at Penn State, flashing outstanding vision and the ability to bend the defense with plenty of slippery drives. Mingo could get into the teeth of the defense whenever he wanted. Over 50% of his shots came at the rim, and he has a trustworthy float game to beat drop coverage. He has to shoot it better, but the size, playmaking, transition punch and defense make him a tantalizing option for guard-needy teams. Mingo was most recently on a visit to Oklahoma, but there's plenty of teams in the mix, including Maryland."
 
NorthCarolinaSooner said:
I think, if you can inch that average up to 30-33% (which isn't a drastic change) and make it serviceable then you have something.
He's never going to be a sniper but the rest of his game is solid. Jeremiah Fears shot 28% from 3 but I dont think you'd find a single fan that wouldn't have taken him back.
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30 percent would be rough, unless you have a handful of good shooters around him. I think Fears is in a different category because his overall game was so, so good. I don't think Wingo is seen as a high lottery pick. And even with Fears, his shooting did hurt to some extent -- we likely win two or three more games last year if he was an average shooter.

You could probably live with 32-33 percent if he is your worst shooting guard. 30 is awful, though, unless he is just so good in every other area to offset it.
 
WichitaSooner said:
30 percent would be rough, unless you have a handful of good shooters around him. I think Fears is in a different category because his overall game was so, so good. I don't think Wingo is seen as a high lottery pick. And even with Fears, his shooting did hurt to some extent -- we likely win two or three more games last year if he was an average shooter.

You could probably live with 32-33 percent if he is your worst shooting guard. 30 is awful, though, unless he is just so good in every other area to offset it.
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Wonder how many just clean looks he got. Penn State wasn't riddled with talent.
 
WTSooner said:
Easy now. Can't be critical of kids that can't shoot and how adding one or both to a roster might create issues with said roster. They are highly ranked therefore we shut up, take them, and enjoy the FF run. Or so I've been told. Can't question PoMo's roster building, because it's been legendary the past few years.
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What if he is a better defender than say Pack or a good shooter? What if he can score just as much but in a different way? Better passer etc? You can’t just look at shooting. How do we know we aren’t going to bring in a really good shooter? I’m saying let this run its course and see what roster is built. As much as we think we know, I’m sure our staff and GM know what we need.
 
The_Banker said:
Wonder how many just clean looks he got. Penn State wasn't riddled with talent.
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High usage for a FR, would lead to less numbers. He was used a ton.

Essentially it's a push pull, yes? When USG% goes up, eFG% goes down. PER can increase, but the pantalty for missed shots and turnovers hits harder. The fact that he had a good A/T ratio, means he is a stud passer and facilitator who just needs a little help. If we can get his 3P% up to 32-33%, he is very useful and will improve (hopefully)

If Mingo shot well, a higher TS% of eFG%, he would be the top of the portal list.
 
WichitaSooner said:
30 percent would be rough, unless you have a handful of good shooters around him. I think Fears is in a different category because his overall game was so, so good. I don't think Wingo is seen as a high lottery pick. And even with Fears, his shooting did hurt to some extent -- we likely win two or three more games last year if he was an average shooter.

You could probably live with 32-33 percent if he is your worst shooting guard. 30 is awful, though, unless he is just so good in every other area to offset it.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer a higher %....but the average for college is in the 33-36% range. Anything abve 30% is definitely serviceable. I agree you have to surround a guy like that with some shooters.
 
NorthCarolinaSooner said:
Since you have an "expert" opinion on every player and their abilities,maybe you can get a job building the perfect roster?

Heck, I see you constantly bitch but never have a constructive solution or thought.

Seriously, what do you do for a living? Honestly question
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I'm not telling you what I do for a living. But I'll tell you this, my HS coaches said I was too smart to get into coaching. That's a true statement. :)

I've mentioned a lot of solutions. I said I'd move Reid to the 4 and make him play like Najera. I'd sign a good 5, even if he was more of a defensive player. I said I'd look to play 3 guards, rather than putting a bigger 3 on the floor. And that at least two of those guards need to project to shoot well. I said I'd recruit proven offensive players, and teach them defense. That was supposed to be PoMo's big pull, team defense. It hasn't been.

I've said if we have NIL issues, I'd focus on the top of the roster. Don't try to go 10 deep, get 5-6 of the best we can get, and a couple other bench guys that are solid. We aren't going to play 10 in the games that matter. Yes, their is injury risk, but the other side of it is we sign worse players.

I've said I don't love Mingo because he's young and can't shoot. I don't love him next to Brown and Reid (3). Move Reid to the 4 and sign another guard that can shoot it really well? Okay. The young part because we're playing year to year right now. If we have success and PoMo sticks around, can he keep Mingo? If we don't have success and Mingo develops and PoMo is fired, we're definitely not keeping him around. I'd just prefer a more seasoned option.

There are my constructive solutions that I've shared before.
 
bjksooner said:
What if he is a better defender than say Pack or a good shooter? What if he can score just as much but in a different way? Better passer etc? You can’t just look at shooting. How do we know we aren’t going to bring in a really good shooter? I’m saying let this run its course and see what roster is built. As much as we think we know, I’m sure our staff and GM know what we need.
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Shooting matters. If you have a 4 and a 5 that can't shoot or score outside of the paint, and your 3 isn't a sharp shooter, having a 2 that likes to get to the rim creates ALL KINDS of spacing issues.

I'm not bagging on the kid, I just don't like the fit from what I've seen of our roster. Shooting matters. If we aren't going to shoot the 3 well, we're going to have to be elite somewhere else to have a solid team.
 


We made contact last year late. Younger brother of Trevon Duval, who played a year at Duke before turning pro.
 
WTSooner said:
I'm not telling you what I do for a living. But I'll tell you this, my HS coaches said I was too smart to get into coaching. That's a true statement. :)

I've mentioned a lot of solutions. I said I'd move Reid to the 4 and make him play like Najera. I'd sign a good 5, even if he was more of a defensive player. I said I'd look to play 3 guards, rather than putting a bigger 3 on the floor. And that at least two of those guards need to project to shoot well. I said I'd recruit proven offensive players, and teach them defense. That was supposed to be PoMo's big pull, team defense. It hasn't been.

I've said if we have NIL issues, I'd focus on the top of the roster. Don't try to go 10 deep, get 5-6 of the best we can get, and a couple other bench guys that are solid. We aren't going to play 10 in the games that matter. Yes, their is injury risk, but the other side of it is we sign worse players.

I've said I don't love Mingo because he's young and can't shoot. I don't love him next to Brown and Reid (3). Move Reid to the 4 and sign another guard that can shoot it really well? Okay. The young part because we're playing year to year right now. If we have success and PoMo sticks around, can he keep Mingo? If we don't have success and Mingo develops and PoMo is fired, we're definitely not keeping him around. I'd just prefer a more seasoned option.

There are my constructive solutions that I've shared before.
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Fair enough.

For me, our biggest problem has been lack of bigs. I love the athleticism that Rooths brings. I think he'll be better with more PT. I thought Rogers looked good at times....thought he was solid in the Crown.

That said, id love to see them spend NIL $$ to get another big, active, athletic center.

Im not enamored with rankings on portal guys. I think guards are out there aplenty.
You can find several that can play at mid majors and even D2 levels. Id like to see a couple longer guards who are athletic and can shoot the 3.
 
WTSooner said:
Shooting matters. If you have a 4 and a 5 that can't shoot or score outside of the paint, and your 3 isn't a sharp shooter, having a 2 that likes to get to the rim creates ALL KINDS of spacing issues.

I'm not bagging on the kid, I just don't like the fit from what I've seen of our roster. Shooting matters. If we aren't going to shoot the 3 well, we're going to have to be elite somewhere else to have a solid team.
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Not saying shooting doesn't matter. But at same time, what if Brown slides to more 2 this year and improves his shooting? Maybe we still find a shooter in portal. I understand what you are saying, but its also about getting roster fits and what they think makes them better. I don't see a world where adding a player like Mingo cant do anything but improve your roster. Just my opinion.
 
bearcreekfan said:
Similar to that, here's an excerpt from a 247 article on the top 30 portal players, with Kayden at #30. It lists the top 100 but only has write-ups on the top 30.
"Numbers to know: 13.7 points, 4.3 assists, 3.5 rebounds

The scout: Kayden Mingo is a true set-the-table point guard with positional size and defensive chops. Mingo posted a 2-to-1, assist-to-turnover ratio last year at Penn State, flashing outstanding vision and the ability to bend the defense with plenty of slippery drives. Mingo could get into the teeth of the defense whenever he wanted. Over 50% of his shots came at the rim, and he has a trustworthy float game to beat drop coverage. He has to shoot it better, but the size, playmaking, transition punch and defense make him a tantalizing option for guard-needy teams. Mingo was most recently on a visit to Oklahoma, but there's plenty of teams in the mix, including Maryland."
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This would obviously be nice to have, but I would question the fit with X since he also likes to have the ball in his hands running the show
 
cbertus6 said:
This would obviously be nice to have, but I would question the fit with X since he also likes to have the ball in his hands running the show
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That part would be up to the staff to make work. I’m a big fan of having multiple guys who are true point guards. You just have to make sure both guys buy in from the outset. Whether Moser can make that happen is a good question.
 
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