uhm, what about this republicans?

[bocabull]

Not to mention that this is the lowest "workforce participation" rate since the Carter years. What that means is that there are less people looking for work (or in most cases, have given up looking for work) who are of working age....thus, this would significantly skew the artificially low unemployment rate (appx 5.3% at last check) that is constantly purported by the left. The economy ranges from stagnant to slight, incremental growth depending on the quarter.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/labor-force-participation-matches-36-year-low-92898000-out-labor-force

LOL @ a lower workforce participation rate considered a bad indicator. What a terrible occurrence that people have enough wealth and savings they don't need to work. How stupid does one have to be to consider this a negative? News flash. The richer people are the less they have to work. US Household wealth at a record high.

 

[bocabull]

Another record close on the S&P 500 today. 3.7 million jobs created in the past 14 months. Record GDP, record corporate earnings. Household wealth up over $30 trillion the past 5 years. Unemployment down over 40% from the peak of the Bush recession. Deficit down over 70% from what Obama inherited from Bush. Most jobs created in 2014 since the 90s. Lowest 4 week average initial unemployment claims since the 90s.

Again, anybody who says Obama screwed up the economy is galactically stupid.

It's the economy stupid. And yes the stupid is republicans.

 

[bocabull]

Over 60% of the jobs created since Barak took office are part time. Would an intelligent person profess to believe that replacing higher paying full time jobs with lesser paying part time jobs is a recipe for an improved labor market? Besides less hours per week, part time jobs on average pay less per hour than their full time counterparts. And to top it off, employers are not subject to providing health care benefits to those categorized as part time workers. It's called strike one, strike two and strike three you're out, but you want to award the batter first base.

Both average hourly wage and average hourly work week have increased under Obama. Your stats are more fake garbage. Where did you get them? Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin? lol lol lol lol lol Those true economic geniuses.

 

[sheepdogs1]

So he's an idiot? That's the answer? He can't listen and answer a simple straight forward question? lol

Continue to bob for apples until you finally lock your jaw around one.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Both average hourly wage and average hourly work week have increased under Obama. Your stats are more fake garbage. Where did you get them? Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin? lol lol lol lol lol Those true economic geniuses.

BLS and the Social Security Administration.

Total take home pay has been reduced and it's a function of full time jobs being replaced by part time jobs. Secondly, average work week and average hourly pay numbers embedded in the jobs report are for manufacturing jobs only. Do you believe we live in a society heavily laden with manufacturing laborers or service oriented laborers?

Go ahead and read the past labor report issued. There were more than 400k part time jobs created while at the same time there were more than 200k full time jobs lost resulting in a net 223k gain (go figure). Not being good at math sure would explain a lot of your misgivings along with being a spook of the full fledged variety.

 

[bocabull]

BLS and the Social Security Administration.

Total take home pay has been reduced and it's a function of full time jobs being replaced by part time jobs. Secondly, average work week and average hourly pay numbers embedded in the jobs report are for manufacturing jobs only. Do you believe we live in a society heavily laden with manufacturing laborers or service oriented laborers?

Go ahead and read the past labor report issued. There were more than 400k part time jobs created while at the same time there were more than 200k full time jobs lost resulting in a net 223k gain (go figure). Not being good at math sure would explain a lot of your misgivings along with being a spook of the full fledged variety.

As usual with inbred conservatives you're either stupid or lying. Likely a combination of both. lol @ stupidity. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

Average workweek and average hourly wage are for all workers. lol @ "take home pay" as if that's some official metric. That's a talking point for Neanderthal imbeciles.

There a reason 9 of the 10 poorest, least educated and obese states voted for Romney and 9 of the 10 wealthiest, most educated and fittest states voted for Obama.

 

[sheepdogs1]

As usual with inbred conservatives you're either stupid or lying. Likely a combination of both. lol @ stupidity. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

Average workweek and average hourly wage are for all workers. lol @ "take home pay" as if that's some official metric. That's a talking point for Neanderthal imbeciles.

There a reason 9 of the 10 poorest, least educated and obese states voted for Romney and 9 of the 10 wealthiest, most educated and fittest states voted for Obama.

Nobody suggested anything about pay growth over the last year. Since Obama took office, pay growth has not exceeded inflation growth by a meaningful amount so your point is moot. Also, salaried workers have seen a substantial drop in their earnings over the course of the past 6 years and counting. And part time workers are indeed outnumbering and supplanting full time workers since he took office. Do you understand, Mr. Burnlee Marpshooter?

 

[bocabull]

Nobody suggested anything about pay growth over the last year. Since Obama took office, pay growth has not exceeded inflation growth by a meaningful amount so your point is moot. Also, salaried workers have seen a substantial drop in their earnings over the course of the past 6 years and counting. And part time workers are indeed outnumbering and supplanting full time workers since he took office. Do you understand, Mr. Burnlee Marpshooter?

More babbling nonsense from an idiot. What happened to average hourly earnings were only manufacturing? lol Now you pivot to a bogus inflation adjusted wages argument which is more right wing fiction. How could part time work be rising when the average workweek is increasing? It's mathematically impossible. Sheep is the perfect name for you. Whatever dumb talking point Karl Rove or Fox News makes up you will repeat it thinking you are smart. You are unimpressive.

It's like that dope stormspencer who said workforce participation rate was calculated using people "of working age". That's total nonsense. It's calculated by taking the labor force divided by the population of all people 16 and over. It's been falling since 1999 as baby boomers retired and will continue to fall as the economy is doing so well they are retiring at an earlier age. Same with "median" income which measures the mid point meaning half above and half below. Obviously as baby boomers retire and their earnings drop "median" income will fall.

Republicans need to stick with cleaning their gun. Leave the economy to smart people. You're unqualified and an embarrassment.

 

[sheepdogs1]

More babbling nonsense from an idiot. What happened to average hourly earnings were only manufacturing? lol Now you pivot to a bogus inflation adjusted wages argument which is more right wing fiction. How could part time work be rising when the average workweek is increasing? It's mathematically impossible. Sheep is the perfect name for you. Whatever dumb talking point Karl Rove or Fox News makes up you will repeat it thinking you are smart. You are unimpressive.

It's like that dope stormspencer who said workforce participation rate was calculated using people "of working age". That's total nonsense. It's calculated by taking the labor force divided by the population of all people 16 and over. It's been falling since 1999 as baby boomers retired and will continue to fall as the economy is doing so well they are retiring at an earlier age. Same with "median" income which measures the mid point meaning half above and half below. Obviously as baby boomers retire and their earnings drop "median" income will fall.

Republicans need to stick with cleaning their gun. Leave the economy to smart people. You're unqualified and an embarrassment.

No, it is not mathematically impossible. If the average work week of part time employees increased from 30 hours/week to 31 hours/week that would lead to the average work week increasing overall, yet they are still classified as part time laborers.



Lastly, I should know better than to argue with an individual who uses the two handed technique to excite himself.

 

[bocabull]

Here are average weekly hours going back 50 years

Here is the most recent report which shows we are back to the highest levels since the peak of the 1990's and above anything W ever achieved - 34.5

Now, in the spirit of Jeb Bush finally admitting the war in Iraq was a disaster that never should have happened. Show some character and honesty. Repeat after me - "I sheepdog, admit the nonsense about the labor market I was spewing was laughably wrong. Whoever gave me that faulty information is not a reliable source and I will never listen to them again."

 

[sheepdogs1]

Here are average weekly hours going back 50 years

Here is the most recent report which shows we are back to the highest levels since the peak of the 1990's and above anything W ever achieved - 34.5

Now, in the spirit of Jeb Bush finally admitting the war in Iraq was a disaster that never should have happened. Show some character and honesty. Repeat after me - "I sheepdog, admit the nonsense about the labor market I was spewing was laughably wrong. Whoever gave me that faulty information is not a reliable source and I will never listen to them again."

And to your benefit flies are high in protein so keep on yammering and put your horse's tail usage on neutral.

 

[coolm]

again ... a whole lot of complaints and not a single answer. you'd think I asked for a solution to Obamacare or something.

 

[bocabull]

And to your benefit flies are high in protein so keep on yammering and put your horse's tail usage on neutral.

From the current BLS Employment Situation Summary:

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes
referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was little changed at 6.6
million in April, but is down by 880,000 from a year earlier. These
individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working
part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were
unable to find a full-time job.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Of course I'm sure this won't alter your thought process. Conservative brains are small and damaged. You do not have the ability to evaluate data and adjust accordingly. Just like Denver on the debt, stormspencer on the labor participation rate and bigots WT/Bounce. No amount of information can penetrate your ignorance. This is why conservative states are poor stupid, fat and idolize the military. The lowest forms of human behavior.

 

[sheepdogs1]

From the current BLS Employment Situation Summary:

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes
referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was little changed at 6.6
million in April, but is down by 880,000 from a year earlier. These
individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working
part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were
unable to find a full-time job.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Of course I'm sure this won't alter your thought process. Conservative brains are small and damaged. You do not have the ability to evaluate data and adjust accordingly. Just like Denver on the debt, stormspencer on the labor participation rate and bigots WT/Bounce. No amount of information can penetrate your ignorance. This is why conservative states are poor stupid, fat and idolize the military. The lowest forms of human behavior.

When does one year make six plus years? Answer: in your noggin that is where. And not being able to find full time work is an example of the economy running smoothly? Also, it's quite amusing how people can differ from one person to the next as it relates to opinions of what constitutes the lowest form of human behavior, for in my mind, individuals who post under different names within the context of the same web site jumping from one board to the next and really having nothing better to do with their time is largely pathetic. You surely exemplify this and now it's time for you to take a curtsy. Your act is old enough to make Pasteur envious but that's about it.

 

[coolm]

the right takes food out of the mouths of starving children and the elderly and the disabled in favor of tax cuts for the rich.

^^ this is why I hate the right.

 

[bocabull]

When does one year make six plus years? Answer: in your noggin that is where. And not being able to find full time work is an example of the economy running smoothly?.

Perfect example of why conservatives are considered babbling imbeciles to ignore. You state virtually all of Obama's job growth has been from lower wage, fewer hour part time work. When confronted with the fact that average hourly wage and weekly hours have consistently risen over his term you claim those statistics only include manufacturing jobs. When confronted with links that show those statistics include all workers you pivot to claiming the most recent job report shows full-time jobs were lost and all the gains come from part-time jobs. When confronted with the fact that actually part-time jobs were down 15% from the year ago period and flat vs the last month you pivot to some other rambling nonsense.

You're a babbling incompetent idiot. A rube.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Perfect example of why conservatives are considered babbling imbeciles to ignore. You state virtually all of Obama's job growth has been from lower wage, fewer hour part time work. When confronted with the fact that average hourly wage and weekly hours have consistently risen over his term you claim those statistics only include manufacturing jobs. When confronted with links that show those statistics include all workers you pivot to claiming the most recent job report shows full-time jobs were lost and all the gains come from part-time jobs. When confronted with the fact that actually part-time jobs were down 15% from the year ago period and flat vs the last month you pivot to some other rambling nonsense.

You're a babbling incompetent idiot. A rube.

You have numerous personas and live from one board to another and I'm babbling, bocabullwinkle? Were the fish not biting at Myer's Pond? Either median income has increased during Obama's reign or it has not. Which is it?

The economy has encountered slow growth ever since he took office and it's not a function of numerous full time jobs created.

Also, how do you explain the levels of those in poverty and on food stamps if the economy is in a position of strength? Try counterbalancing that.

You've also pontificated on how the unemployment rate has dropped dramatically. If the current rate truly reflected the job market condition then why did the Federal Reserve abandon their line in the sand as it relates to this rate when formulating policy?



http://www.wsj.com/articles/mortimer-zuckerman-the-full-time-scandal-of-part-time-america-1405291652

 

[DenverSooner]

the right takes food out of the mouths of starving children and the elderly and the disabled in favor of tax cuts for the rich.

^^ this is why I hate the right.

I don't really see this as what most fiscally conservative people want. I can not actually speak for others but what I want is the following:

1. Smaller government;
2. More personal accountability. One President once said ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. I think liberals liked that guy.
3. Less Regulation and more importantly clean up the regulation that exists. The administrative agencies are not repealing and revoking outdated regulations. This makes it almost impossible for anyone other than an expert to make sense of the all the existing regulation. How does one know that Regulation X was superseded by Regulation Y or interpretation Z.
4. More efficiency in government.
5. More accountability for government workers.
6. Across the board spending cuts. We simply can't agree on winners and losers so lets agree on some percentage we reduce everything. Our government literally claims that a reduction in increased spending is a cut. That is absurd. It is not a cut it is a smaller increase.

 

[coolm]

Denver ... I see a lot of great ideological stuff in what you say ... but it doesn't meet the "rubber to the road" test. This is NOT what republican leaders are doing.

For example - "across the board budget cuts"? Sure. Sounds reasonable, right? And WHAT happened when the last budget was contemplated? They cut social programs but argued for tax breaks and gave the Pentagon more money than it asked for.

It sounds great to say we should clean up regs. But that's not how it works either. Instead of working for an overall policy such as that it ends up being cuts to regs that adversely affect big money campaign contributors while others are railed upon.

More efficiency in government? Sounds good ... but NOT how it works. Efficiency isn't the issue with SNAP - coverage is the issue. It DOES take more money to get the coverage we want and there are abuses - but just like in safety situations we are looking more to the coverage than the cost. To get to that last few percent it may take more - but that's fine when the "efficient" alternative is to let those groups just go hungry or without homes or without utilities (Sec. 8 or TANF). Such coverage is NOT the primary goal of private alternatives and we see time and time again how they fail to provide the same spectrum when having to answer up to shareholders.

Smaller government? That one is just a joke. When the issue serves big business' interests Republicans forget all about so-called "smaller government". As we speak Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin is about to sign a bill that precludes municipalities from controlling drilling operations in their own local areas. This is done as many cities, such as Stillwater, seek to limit fracking and waste-water injection in their limits due to all of the earthquake damage happening to Oklahoma homes. There was an outcry for a moratorium on such drilling to determine responsibility for damage and the Okie state government avoided it by saying "we don't know who would ask for that legally" ... so they did nothing. I can turn around in my chair right now and stare at $20k+ worth of damage that has been done to MY home as a result of waste-water injection induced earthquakes. Bit no one is willing to do anything contrary to their campaign contributor oil companies.

 

[DenverSooner]

you want to argue winners and losers. I think that is waste of energy because people cannot agree.

It is insane to suggest that every single program cannot reduce costs by 1% by simply being more efficient.