UT academic cheating scandal during Rick Barnes tenure

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That article likely contains hyperbole, e.g., "academic misconduct running rampant."

In any event, I hate to see this stuff going on anywhere. It wrongly perpetuates the stereotype of the “dumb jock.” Many student-athletes are very bright people and very good, hard-working students.
 
I agree that many will view it that way but I personally view it from the perspective of what I likely would have done at that age. I would have likely accepted the benefit of others writing papers, taking tests or fake grades under a feeling of entitlement and a belief everyone was doing it. So to me it is more about the University than the players.

In fact when I was that age I often spent more time trying to beat the system than it would have taken to simply do the right thing.
 
The NCAA will probably try to figure out a way NOT to punish the Bevoids if this is proven correct. Probably the closest thing to happen will be that the NCAA investigators will get so mad at UT that they'll give UTSA the Death Penalty.
 
The NCAA will probably try to figure out a way NOT to punish the Bevoids if this is proven correct. Probably the closest thing to happen will be that the NCAA investigators will get so mad at UT that they'll give UTSA the Death Penalty.

Naw, UT Arlington
 
what is the university herald?

why is a teacher contacting the athletic department about an academic misconduct issue? UT will have an honor code or protocol for academic misconduct. not to mention, meeting with a student one to one...which was what i did when i taught classes for a time at a Big XII university.

that said, there is a lot of cheating everywhere. cheating among general students.

that said, i used to and still love when UT fans gush all over themselves about how pure and great they are and every else "cheats to keep up with UT".
 
what is the university herald?

why is a teacher contacting the athletic department about an academic misconduct issue? UT will have an honor code or protocol for academic misconduct. not to mention, meeting with a student one to one...which was what i did when i taught classes for a time at a Big XII university.

that said, there is a lot of cheating everywhere. cheating among general students.

that said, i used to and still love when UT fans gush all over themselves about how pure and great they are and every else "cheats to keep up with UT".

This quote from an article posted by SoonernVolved1 on the OUScout board will answer your question about the teacher's involvement in an academic misconduct issue:

"Pamela G. Powell had a problem. As she administered a final exam in remedial math at the University of Texas at Austin, she reportedly spotted a high-profile basketball player cheating.

The player, Martez Walker, a freshman from Detroit, was allegedly snapping pictures of test questions with his phone and looking for answers from someone outside the classroom, according to two former academic advisers informed of the incident.

Ms. Powell, a mathematics instructor who had several athletes in her class that semester, the fall of 2013, contacted Adam Creasy, her liaison with the athletic department. The instructor asked what she should do, recalled Mr. Creasy, then an academic counselor for the football team. He spoke with Brian Davis, then head of academic support for football, who advised the instructor to talk with Randa Ryan, executive senior associate athletic director for student services.

What happened next is unclear.

But Mr. Walker passed the class, according to Mr. Creasy. Soon after, the player was named to the Big 12 Commissioner’s Honor Roll, for earning at least a 3.0 grade-point average. That season Mr. Walker became a key contributor to the team, scoring in double figures seven times, including a season-high 16 points in an NCAA tournament win against Arizona State University.
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The incident is one of several accusations of academic misconduct under Rick Barnes, Texas’ head basketball coach from 1998 until this year. One former academic mentor in the athletic department told The Chronicle that he had helped write papers for J’Covan Brown, a former guard. A tutor for P.J. Tucker, another onetime Longhorns player, said Mr. Tucker had received impermissible academic assistance while he was preparing for the NBA draft."
 
That certainly doesn't look good...

I'll add that I think Denver is mostly right that these things can't happen if student's don't get the opportunity. A 19 year old with the opportunity to mess-up is likely to take it. It's the school and the coach's job to try not to give them the chance.
 
I don't buy for a minute that the coaches at North Carolina or Texas was unaware of cheating or the phantom classes to keep their players eligible.

Of course, these schools benefit the NCAA financially so I don't expect much action on their part.
 
This quote from an article posted by SoonernVolved1 on the OUScout board will answer your question about the teacher's involvement in an academic misconduct issue:

"Pamela G. Powell had a problem. As she administered a final exam in remedial math at the University of Texas at Austin, she reportedly spotted a high-profile basketball player cheating.

The player, Martez Walker, a freshman from Detroit, was allegedly snapping pictures of test questions with his phone and looking for answers from someone outside the classroom, according to two former academic advisers informed of the incident.

Ms. Powell, a mathematics instructor who had several athletes in her class that semester, the fall of 2013, contacted Adam Creasy, her liaison with the athletic department. The instructor asked what she should do, recalled Mr. Creasy, then an academic counselor for the football team. He spoke with Brian Davis, then head of academic support for football, who advised the instructor to talk with Randa Ryan, executive senior associate athletic director for student services.

What happened next is unclear.

But Mr. Walker passed the class, according to Mr. Creasy. Soon after, the player was named to the Big 12 Commissioner’s Honor Roll, for earning at least a 3.0 grade-point average. That season Mr. Walker became a key contributor to the team, scoring in double figures seven times, including a season-high 16 points in an NCAA tournament win against Arizona State University.
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The incident is one of several accusations of academic misconduct under Rick Barnes, Texas’ head basketball coach from 1998 until this year. One former academic mentor in the athletic department told The Chronicle that he had helped write papers for J’Covan Brown, a former guard. A tutor for P.J. Tucker, another onetime Longhorns player, said Mr. Tucker had received impermissible academic assistance while he was preparing for the NBA draft."

i read that. my question is a bit rhetorical. in cases of academic misconduct, it doesn't matter whether the student is an athlete or not. that the teacher went to the AD shows there is a culture of beholden-ness. that the teacher thinks there are different expectations. cheating is cheating, the same rules apply to a freshman wanker from Plano in the dorms or a 5 star recruit....that's university policy. there is an Honor Code Board, Student Plagiarism Council....something. A protocol. going to the AD rep....is not what you do.

i have taught college at two of US and News and Whatever World Reports top 100 National Universities.....going to the AD rep is not what you do in cases of academic misconduct. i'm amazed that's even out in print. it's not even good crime....or sweeping it under the rug.

i will say that while i don't know that original link source....if there is an article in Chronicle of Higher Education....it's prob all true. that's a peg head, square breetches no BS publication.
 
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i read that. my question is a bit rhetorical. in cases of academic misconduct, it doesn't matter whether the student is an athlete or not. that the teacher went to the AD shows there is a culture of beholden-ness. that the teacher thinks there are different expectations. cheating is cheating, the same rules apply to a freshman wanker from Plano in the dorms or a 5 star recruit....that's university policy. there is an Honor Code Board, Student Plagiarism Council....something. A protocol. going to the AD rep....is not what you do.

i have taught college at two of US and News and Whatever World Reports top 100 National Universities.....going to the AD rep is not what you do in cases of academic misconduct. i'm amazed that's even out in print. it's not even good crime....or sweeping it under the rug.

i will say that while i don't know that original link source....if there is an article in Chronicle of Higher Education....it's prob all true. that's a peg head, square breetches no BS publication.

The Chronicle of Higher Education was indeed the source for that story. Here's the link:

http://chronicle.com/article/How-At...7dlJpMyhKMXAyYj1CN2pQYXRpOUIvZCFIa30jbllUEQ==
 
I never even contemplated taking pictures of questions, texting them to someone else and getting an answer because that technology simply didn't exist when I was a student.

I read somewhere (or was told) that Universities now scan papers and then a computer compares them to a data base to find plagiarism. It is amazing how technology has increased both the methods of cheating and methods of detecting it.
 
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