What was that 7 losses in a row stat they used to lead into the OU-UT game?

[SoonerfanTU]

Why concentrate on the losing streak? If we would of pulled out a victory against CU, people would be b*tching about losing six out of seven...so why even worry about the losses?

That's just it, that is a very sugar-coated way of looking at things.

Over the course of the losing streak, I'd say we should be proud of one, maybe two games. I was pleased with the way we played at KU. And maybe against Baylor. MAYBE.

But to lose at home to TT? On the road by 10 to CU? Getting blown out by OSU and KSU? Squandering a 13 point lead against a struggling, roster depleated, down to their 3rd pg Texas squad?

Sorry, that isn't the same as getting better and winning the two games we had no business losing, and being competitive in the others.

 

[cfin5256]

Would of hoped we could pull out one "W" somewhere in that stretch, but I don't mind the L's so much the effort. Played much better against KU, KSU and UT (although not as much last night).

NEWSFLASH: we are not a good team, playing it's most difficult stretch in the #1 league in the country.

Why concentrate on the losing streak? If we would of pulled out a victory against CU, people would be b*tching about losing six out of seven...so why even worry about the losses?

That's the way I look at it. None of us has likely forgotten since the last loss, that, yes, we do indeed suck. At this point it's about looking for areas of improvement. I don't like that it's taken all season and a drastic reduction in depth to see improvement in effort and hustle, but we have seen an improvement, in those areas at least, over the last few games. Defensively...ehh... hit and miss. At times it looks better, but at times it's eerily similar to Alaska. I think my biggest complaint is that we have not established any sort of identity offensively or defensively, and that's something, along with recruiting, that Capel needs to work on in this offseason.

 

[Big Old Booger]

It's not that the team or players or coach is above criticism, it is the constant barrage and negativity from a few people...i'm pretty sure none of us are excited about this year and disgusted just the same...

The difference is that i dont continue to beat a dead horse over and over and over and over...

Ive voiced my opinions about what is wrong with the team and the coaching staff a long time ago and nothing has really changed since then, and i choose as a fan to support this team and understand it for what it is right now...i believe the we have the right people in place to be successful as far as leadership goes and if not that will take care of itself...

Now if i was a coach on staff, a player, administrator or someone that worked with the athletics dept i might not be this layed back about the issues but there is nothing i can control in this situation and CHOOSE to be positive in a pretty much brutal year for us as fans...



On the other hand, we all have the right to voice our opinion as much as we want, negative or positive....and just as i choose to be positive i also have chosen to participate in this board...so it is as much my fault for participating in this stuff as the ones that starts it...I can say that the few that are being negative that dont bother me as much are the ones that were here last year when things were good (tu, abd, denver, etc...)...I just hope we can all keep in perspective that we have been spoiled over the last couple of decades and what we have witnessed has been nothing but remarkable in consistency...hopefully we can get that back, but maybe, just maybe we wont? just sayin

You can include me in that list, too. I've been posting on this site since I was alerted of its existence which was just after it started.

Before that, I was posting on the OUI board (all 3 of them -- initial, scout, and espn) under a different username.

 

[campbest]

All I am saying is the losing streak is irrelevant in my book...if people aren't happy with effort, development, etc. that's another story.

When you have a team as young as ours (and dysfunctional) you stop counting losses around mid-January and harp on other results. Of course, those have been inconsistent.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Would of hoped we could pull out one "W" somewhere in that stretch, but I don't mind the L's so much the effort. Played much better against KU, KSU and UT (although not as much last night).

NEWSFLASH: we are not a good team, playing it's most difficult stretch in the #1 league in the country.

Why concentrate on the losing streak? If we would of pulled out a victory against CU, people would be b*tching about losing six out of seven...so why even worry about the losses?

Your joking, right?

If not, this is the most asinine comment on this board I have ever seen. Since when do OU basketball fans thump their chest over a win over perennial cellar dweller CU? They have the worst basketball program in the Big 12, and you think if we had found a way to win that game, a game in which we never really had a chance to win (sure we cut the lead to 5, but CU kept us at an arms length the entire game), that we would be satisfied we found a way to beat CU and that would diminish the poor results in many other games this year?

Wow.

 

[Big Old Booger]

That's the way I look at it. None of us has likely forgotten since the last loss, that, yes, we do indeed suck. At this point it's about looking for areas of improvement. I don't like that it's taken all season and a drastic reduction in depth to see improvement in effort and hustle, but we have seen an improvement, in those areas at least, over the last few games. Defensively...ehh... hit and miss. At times it looks better, but at times it's eerily similar to Alaska. I think my biggest complaint is that we have not established any sort of identity offensively or defensively, and that's something, along with recruiting, that Capel needs to work on in this offseason.

No, it's not. It's about winning. As Herm Edwards said "You play to win the game".

This "we are just looking for improvement" is what aggies and Baylor fans spout. It isn't what OU fans, the fans of what was the 2nd best program in the conference, should be doing.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Before that, I was posting on the OUI board (all 3 of them -- initial, scout, and espn) under a different username.

out of curiosity, what is that username?

 

[campbest]

Your joking, right?

If not, this is the most asinine comment on this board I have ever seen. Since when do OU basketball fans thump their chest over a win over perennial cellar dweller CU? They have the worst basketball program in the Big 12, and you think if we had found a way to win that game, a game in which we never really had a chance to win (sure we cut the lead to 5, but CU kept us at an arms length the entire game), that we would be satisfied we found a way to beat CU and that would diminish the poor results in many other games this year?

Wow.

My post went completely over your head.

Just referenced the notion that if we would have beat a perennial loser (CU) and had lost 6 of 7 instead of seven straight, people would still be upset. So why concentrate on the final score at this junction of the season? Any coach will tell you that while the losses hurt, there are other measurables which would be more important to focus on given a team in our situation.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

No, it's not. It's about winning. As Herm Edwards said "You play to win the game".

This "we are just looking for improvement" is what aggies and Baylor fans spout. It isn't what OU fans, the fans of what was the 2nd best program in the conference, should be doing.

so fans are just suppose to spout out negativity? why are we as fans not allowed to point out improvement? Nobody is saying we are happy with losing but improvement is nothing to be upset about.

 

[luckyc1423]

Does anyone know the last time we had 7 losses what the roster talent was? Were we a very talented team then or had poor players? I was to young then to remember....
The whole situation is mind boggling primarily because we have talent. Starting two burger boys and sometimes 3. Several top 100 players...Coach has not gotten the job done. I am sure there are several coaches out there that would be glad to have tiny, tmg, or warren on their roster and I am sure those coaches can get more out of them than capel can

 

[campbest]

No, it's not. It's about winning. As Herm Edwards said "You play to win the game".

This "we are just looking for improvement" is what aggies and Baylor fans spout. It isn't what OU fans, the fans of what was the 2nd best program in the conference, should be doing.

You don't think the guys are playing to win? Do you think the staff has cancelled practice and stop handing out scouting reports the day before?

Come on now, of course you play to win. Doesn't mean in a loss you find some other characteristic of the game to build on.

 

[campbest]

Does anyone know the last time we had 7 losses what the roster talent was? Were we a very talented team then or had poor players? I was to young then to remember....
The whole situation is mind boggling primarily because we have talent. Starting two burger boys and sometimes 3. Several top 100 players...Coach has not gotten the job done. I am sure there are several coaches out there that would be glad to have tiny, tmg, or warren on their roster and I am sure those coaches can get more out of them than capel can

According to Gottlieb's article and the NBA Draft boards, this is not true.

 

[cfin5256]

No, it's not. It's about winning. As Herm Edwards said "You play to win the game".

This "we are just looking for improvement" is what aggies and Baylor fans spout. It isn't what OU fans, the fans of what was the 2nd best program in the conference, should be doing.

Apparently we're not seeing any winning, so the fall back option is areas of improvement. At this point a win or two does nada for the team or us as fans other than taking the taste of losing out of our mouths; which I guess is important in itself. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be sitting here discussing a win, but unless I missed something, we haven't had one of those in awhile.

 

[Big Old Booger]

My post went completely over your head.

Just referenced the notion that if we would have beat a perennial loser (CU) and had lost 6 of 7 instead of seven straight, people would still be upset. So why concentrate on the final score at this junction of the season? Any coach will tell you that while the losses hurt, there are other measurables which would be more important to focus on given a team in our situation.

No, I understood exactly what you are saying. I don't prescribe to that aggie logic. You can, but I don't.

The point is, this is the worst OU team in over 40 years. 1 win over lowly CU doesn't change that.

 

[luckyc1423]

According to Gottlieb's article and the NBA Draft boards, this is not true.

I dunno, I just believe those three guys are to talented not to be getting more out of them. I am sure if anyone of those three decides to transfer they will land at a big time school similiar to OU.

 

[SoonerfanTU]

Apparently we're not seeing any winning, so the fall back option is areas of improvement. At this point a win or two does nada for the team or us as fans other than taking the taste of losing out of our mouths; which I guess is important in itself. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be sitting here discussing a win, but unless I missed something, we haven't had one of those in awhile.

This is sort of like the chicken and egg comment.

If we were truly improving, wouldn't we be winning the occassional game, or not be getting blown out so often?

 

[Big Old Booger]

Does anyone know the last time we had 7 losses what the roster talent was? Were we a very talented team then or had poor players? I was to young then to remember....
The whole situation is mind boggling primarily because we have talent. Starting two burger boys and sometimes 3. Several top 100 players...Coach has not gotten the job done. I am sure there are several coaches out there that would be glad to have tiny, tmg, or warren on their roster and I am sure those coaches can get more out of them than capel can

The 68/69 season was John MacLeod's second season just before he signed Alvan Adams who helped revive the OU basketball program. In fact, the teams Adams was on is why they built the LNC because the fieldhouse couldn't hold enough fans.

I know the 60's was the worst decade for OU basketball. Losing seasons every year except 61 and a .500 record in 67/68. Bad, bad basketball teams.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is sort of like the chicken and egg comment.

If we were truly improving, wouldn't we be winning the occassional game, or not be getting blown out so often?

maybe, maybe not.

i truly think that if we replayed our conference schedule starting now, we would see better results.

 

[campbest]

This is sort of like the chicken and egg comment.

If we were truly improving, wouldn't we be winning the occassional game, or not be getting blown out so often?

Maybe against CU, NU or TT.

KSU, @KU, @UT, BU, @OSU are all tough.

 

[Big Old Booger]

maybe, maybe not.

i truly think that if we replayed our conference schedule starting now, we would see better results.

I think you are delusional. If we replayed our entire schedule right now, we would probably be winless. We are a bad, bad basketball team. If you want some sort of positive to hang onto, the only one at this point is we only have 2 games left then it's over for a while. That's it.