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[WTSooner]

That link shows a vast improvement in stats from his sophomore to junior season.

Due, IMO, to the limited nature of his playing time.

It's much easier to be efficient playing 15 minutes per game, than it is plyaing 25-30.

 

[TheGimper]

Due, IMO, to the limited nature of his playing time.

It's much easier to be efficient playing 15 minutes per game, than it is plyaing 25-30.

I'm not disputing that, but to say Cam regressed between is sophomore and junior season is an ignorant thing to claim. Stats aside, just from watching the games you could tell Cameron reworked his shot (not ideal, but better than what it is), was much smarter in his shot selection, improved his defense to where he could contend against many 4s & 5s in the conference, and took much better care of the ball. He was easily are most consistent player off the bench last season and arguably the best one coming off the pine.

 

[nikebasketball]

I'm not disputing that, but to say Cam regressed between is sophomore and junior season is an ignorant thing to claim. Stats aside, just from watching the games you could tell Cameron reworked his shot (not ideal, but better than what it is), was much smarter in his shot selection, improved his defense to where he could contend against many 4s & 5s in the conference, and took much better care of the ball. He was easily are most consistent player off the bench last season and arguably the best one coming off the pine.

this^^ plus cam will be better then he already was

 

[WTSooner]

I'm not disputing that, but to say Cam regressed between is sophomore and junior season is an ignorant thing to claim. Stats aside, just from watching the games you could tell Cameron reworked his shot (not ideal, but better than what it is), was much smarter in his shot selection, improved his defense to where he could contend against many 4s & 5s in the conference, and took much better care of the ball. He was easily are most consistent player off the bench last season and arguably the best one coming off the pine.

He actually turned it over at an identical rate to his sophomore year (if my math is right), but I get what you are saying.

If Cam can give us something similar to his junior season, next year, I'll take it.

 

[treebranch]

Cam was a top 30 recruit in the 2010 class. each year his shot has gotten better

Since you know Cam, maybe you can help me out. He showed his Freshman season that he's a capable three-point shooter (37%), and then he basically stopped shooting them, even when he's been wide open. And this is even though his shot appears to be much improved overall.

I don't want to believe that Kruger red-lighted him, but what's going on here? It appeared to me all last year we were sacrificing team efficiency by keeping all of Clark's shots inside 20 feet.

 

[WTSooner]

I don't want to believe that Kruger red-lighted him, but what's going on here? It appeared to me all last year we were sacrificing team efficiency by keeping all of Clark's shots inside 20 feet.

LK absolutely red lighted him.

How were we sacrificing efficiency by having a guy that shot 28% from three as a sophomore, focus more on higher percentage twos, where he shot around 50% from as a junior?

Sometimes stats can be misleading. I don't think that 37% from his freshman year is very indicative of his shooting ability. It's like the baseball player that is a career .275 hitter, but has that one season where he hits .310. Doesn't mean he is a .310 hitter, just that he had a very good season one year.

 

[CoachTalk]

Since you know Cam, maybe you can help me out. He showed his Freshman season that he's a capable three-point shooter (37%), and then he basically stopped shooting them, even when he's been wide open. And this is even though his shot appears to be much improved overall.

I don't want to believe that Kruger red-lighted him, but what's going on here? It appeared to me all last year we were sacrificing team efficiency by keeping all of Clark's shots inside 20 feet.

Whats wrong with Red Lighting? I call it good coaching! Why would you want a bad shooter shooting?
Your best players need to take the most shots, if the other guys cant accept that then its time for them to find a new role!

 

[nikebasketball]

Cam is been putting in a shot he is being a gym rat like Buddy Hornbeak Cousins.Kruger is putting gim in great spots where he shoots good. him and Buddy - Hornbeak will be the focal points of the offense

 

[AdaSooner]

Cam is been putting in a shot he is being a gym rat like Buddy Hornbeak Cousins.Kruger is putting gim in great spots where he shoots good. him and Buddy - Hornbeak will be the focal points of the offense

It's good to know that Cam has joined the gym rat group and is working on his shot. He proved he can shoot the three his freshmen season when he finished with a 37% average from behind the arc. But when he's on his game, he can be really good from 17 feet and in. The only problem Cam has from that distance is consistency. If he puts in the time to overcome his tendency to disappear in some games, he could be a major factor in our success this fall.

 

[KBaden145]

Cam is been putting in a shot he is being a gym rat like Buddy Hornbeak Cousins.Kruger is putting gim in great spots where he shoots good. him and Buddy - Hornbeak will be the focal points of the offense

Do you think he will be a starter?

 

[garyeb2]

Cam is been putting in a shot he is being a gym rat like Buddy Hornbeak Cousins.Kruger is putting gim in great spots where he shoots good. him and Buddy - Hornbeak will be the focal points of the offense

I agree with you and think that Cam has got more than he has shown. But, I'm thinking that Cam, Buddy, and Spangler will be the 3 leading scorers. Kruger typically will want his wings to be the strength of his team. It will be hard for all three of them to outscore the best big.

 

[treebranch]

LK absolutely red lighted him.

How were we sacrificing efficiency by having a guy that shot 28% from three as a sophomore, focus more on higher percentage twos, where he shot around 50% from as a junior?

Sometimes stats can be misleading. I don't think that 37% from his freshman year is very indicative of his shooting ability. It's like the baseball player that is a career .275 hitter, but has that one season where he hits .310. Doesn't mean he is a .310 hitter, just that he had a very good season one year.

He shot 28%, but only on 18 shots, a tiny sample. With his 1-1 last year that bumped him up to 31.5% after his freshman season (36% career). I'm guessing Pledger had at least three or four (or ten) 5-18 stretches in his career. And even that 28% rate is better than three guys who combined to shoot over 100 threes last year.

I don't have a problem with red-lighting people in general, but is it really even possible that Cousins and M'Baye were better long range shooters than Clark last year? Those two combined to shoot 83 threes.

That strategy probably made Cam a more efficient player, but it made OU less efficient because bad shooters were allowed to jack up threes while an average one wasn't. The biggest problem we had on offense at the end of the year was missing open threes. Part of that problem was we had bad shooters taking those shots.

But yeah, stats can be misleading. Yours are more prone to be, though, due to sample size problems. The larger and probably more representative sample is his career total. His overall FG and FT shooting improved a lot last year, or at least his shot selection did. There's no reason in the numbers to think he's actually gotten worse at shooting wide open threes in the last two years, and his improved selection means he's less likely to take ill-advised, guarded threes.

 

[WTSooner]

But yeah, stats can be misleading. Yours are more prone to be, though, due to sample size problems. The larger and probably more representative sample is his career total. His overall FG and FT shooting improved a lot last year, or at least his shot selection did. There's no reason in the numbers to think he's actually gotten worse at shooting wide open threes in the last two years, and his improved selection means he's less likely to take ill-advised, guarded threes.

Well, the best sample is the one LK gets from watching the kid practice everyday. And LK thinks that Cam should not shoot threes. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.

I think it's a lot easier to regulate the shots that Cam takes, as opposed to Cousins. And yes, if OU had to have a made three point basket, and M'Baye or Cam had to shoot it, I'd probably want M'Baye to shoot it. Just me though.

 

[nikebasketball]

Do you think he will be a starter?

yes he will

 

[bgrch1350]

No, it isn't. Missing the NCAA Tournament is a monumental failure for a program like OU. Poor coaching, lack of talent, poor effort, something was amiss.

All it takes to make the tourney is a top 45 finish or so and be in the top half of the conference. OU certainly has the budget and infrastructure to do no worse than that.

An NIT bid validates failure. I would rather the kids go on spring break and the staff, if retained, spend their time figuring out how to correct the problems that caused the failure.

Agree.

 

[JBaker]

There is a better chance of me getting drafted into the NBA, than Cam averaging 15ppg next season.

I know we all miss on predictions, and you could probably dig through my post history and find several faux pas, but I just stumbled across this post and wanted to ask what team you think will take a chance on you in June?

 

[Laxtothemax12]

I know we all miss on predictions, and you could probably dig through my post history and find several faux pas, but I just stumbled across this post and wanted to ask what team you think will take a chance on you in June?

The sixers could use some help. I heard the 2015 draft class is LOADED so the GM wants another "successful" season on his terms

 

[WTSooner]

I know we all miss on predictions, and you could probably dig through my post history and find several faux pas, but I just stumbled across this post and wanted to ask what team you think will take a chance on you in June?

I will only play for the Boston Celtics.

Fun fact about Cam's season. In the last 12 years, only three players have attempted more FG's in a season than he did this past year. That is pretty crazy to think about.

 

[DenverSooner]

I will only play for the Boston Celtics.

Fun fact about Cam's season. In the last 12 years, only three players have attempted more FG's in a season than he did this past year. That is pretty crazy to think about.

Who were they? I would assume Blake Griffin is one of them.

 

[WTSooner]

Who were they? I would assume Blake Griffin is one of them.

Hollis his sr year.
Blake as a sophomore.
Hield this year.