WichitaSooner
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Its like building Indiana football. If their coach had won 7 games in the year, they would have been thrilled and extended him.OU fan base has also witnessed success. Nebraska fans have never witnessed them win a tournament game.
Just a totally different set of expectations between the two.
That was my point. Would we have had enough patience with him after 4 seasons on those results? A lot of the historical b-ball success we’ve had vs. Nebraska isn’t as crucial these days with NIL. Decent rosters can be assembled by teams like Nebraska, that 20 years ago…would have been hard to come by in Lincoln. Back in the day, the OU job would have been considered much better than the Neb job. That gap has shrank considerably. Before Hoiberg took over Nebraska, the program had won 19 & 22 games in the previous two seasons. In Hoiberg’s early seasons…the Big 10 wasn’t near as good as the SEC was last year or the last couple of seasons in the Big 12, when OU was still in that league.OU fan base has also witnessed success. Nebraska fans have never witnessed them win a tournament game.
Just a totally different set of expectations between the two.
I like hoiberg and would welcome him to OU but KU thinks their **** doesn’t stink and would look to nba coaches or successful higher profile college coaches with KU ties. That thinking has toppled many great programs so I hope they stick with it.hoiberg would be great at KU
I hope they stick with JV
I think the more arrogant move is to stick with jacque Vaughn who has no HC resume. I would rather do the route you posted about if I were a disgusting KU fan..I like hoiberg and would welcome him to OU but KU thinks their **** doesn’t stink and would look to nba coaches or successful higher profile college coaches with KU ties. That thinking has toppled many great programs so I hope they stick with it.
he was a head coach in the NBA for 6 yearsI think the more arrogant move is to stick with jacque Vaughn who has no HC resume. I would rather do the route you posted about if I were a disgusting KU fan..
My mistake. I didn't know thathe was a head coach in the NBA for 6 years
Orlando Magic for 3 years
Nets for 3
I looked into it. He was a HC for PARTS of 6 seasons. Looks like he only was a HC for 2 full seasons for the Magic.he was a head coach in the NBA for 6 years
Orlando Magic for 3 years
Nets for 3
he was hired by the magic .. to be the head coach of a full rebuild .. (2 best players including Dwight howard all star and defensive POY) were gone from the year before ..I looked into it. He was a HC for PARTS of 6 seasons. Looks like he only was a HC for 2 full seasons for the Magic.
And all-time he sports a .363 career winning percentage. So my point still stands overall imo. Hes completely untested in college and was abysmal in his 2 seasons as a HC steering the wheel. Id be livid if we hired him as a KU fan
Idk about ku tho.. which is gross to type. Well seehe was hired by the magic .. to be the head coach of a full rebuild .. (2 best players including Dwight howard all star and defensive POY) were gone from the year before ..
and not suprisingly they were bad for 2 years and he was fired .. more then half way through year 3 ..
the magic were just as bad the rest of that season and the next 3 years .. (players issue not coach)
he took over the NETS at the end of the covid season and was 7-3 ..
he then became the NETS coach 7 games into the 22-23 season when they fired Nash (he went 43-32) and they went to the playoffs .. (even after trading KD and kyrie midseason)
now he is back as the HC of a rebuilt .. with out the 2 stars .. and was fired more then half way into the season ..
he always has been a very very respected ast coach .. and he for sure has the resume to be a HC
JV is revered by KU fans and alumni. It would be viewed as a seamless transition and as long as the NIL keeps flowing, they might be ok. It’s still a big risk. IF Self has given his blessing, I could see it happening. Or they could swing for the fences and grab a more established coach with a higher profile.Idk about ku tho.. which is gross to type. Well see
FWIW, KSU hopes to have a deal with a new coach by the end of this week. That’s the advantage of the quick hook. Even if we fire Moser as soon as we are eliminated this week, it obviously will take a while to formally interview coaches and get someone in place. Doesn’t guarantee KSU will hire someone better, but it does give them an advantage.
There are plenty of very good coaches who might not make the tourney in a given year because they are at a small school in a one-bid league. The Belmont coach is one guy on their radar.I’ve already mentioned I would have fired Moser after the 9 game losing streak.
Having said that, if ksu has their guy by end of this week then they likely won’t be getting anyone who is currently coaching a tournament team. St. Louis and Utah state are going to be at large teams, for example.
I don’t see much advantage in getting a head start on an assistant coach or a head coach who is not coaching a tournament type team. Guess we will find out who they end up with soon.