2025-26 Season

[Boom Soon]

Maybe not now, but I’d guess that was the initial plan. And even if he doesn’t redshirt, he probably won’t contribute much. I also wonder what the “he hasn’t been cleared” comment means.

Yeah who knows that that means. Not liking how the season is starting. Two key players out with injuries, a player quit, one dude who is just “not cleared.”

 

[cmdsooner]

I don't think we are really privy to know the details.
Maybe he was pretty open with Moser and the team that he was going to try both but if it became too much he would side with baseball

“unless he’s got some legitimate reason”

I have a very hard time believing the basketball staff told him he could just quit mid-season if it’s difficult.

 

[pnkranger]

Need Holst to be able to play with only 10 guys. Foul trouble + injuries ...

 

[WichitaSooner]

Bookout's brother Casey was on the baseball team. The problem now is you need to be one or the other to be as competitive as you need to be. And both seasons intersect in Feb-April. Even having football/baseball guys is hard.

Ryan Minor did it in a different era. Not sure he could choose to do both now.

It’s always been incredibly difficult. Back in Minor’s day, baseball season started even earlier than it does now, and they had as much of a fall ball schedule as they currently do. Minor was just the rare guy who was good enough at both to make it work. We are talking about a guy who would have been a first round NBA pick after his junior year, who was also good enough at baseball to play in the bigs.

I said all along this was unlikely to work out, and people laughed and said I was just being negative. When you have to go back decades to come up with a handful of examples of guys who managed to make an impact in both sports at the high D1 level, it is easy to see how it’s likely to end. It’s just a shame he handled it so poorly. And it will affect the team, at least from a practice standpoint. If Jones and Rogers miss significant time, it might hurt even more.

 

[BCSooners]

I don't have an issue with him stepping away from basketball .. but how he did it was not good ..

missed practice and let the team know by text ..

I honestly never thought he'd do both after the 1st year. I honestly don't have that much of a problem that he's quitting now if he felt his future has a better chance with baseball. But you absolutely go physically tell the coaches and address your teammates face to face. You just disrespected coaches and teammates that have poured time and resources on you for quite some time.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I said all along this was unlikely to work out, and people laughed and said I was just being negative.

I don't remember anyone laughing at you...except maybe coach

BUT to be fair, I went back and looked at your Blair posts. They were all about how he would never make it on campus. He made it to campus and played in a game.
Its funny because you were very vocal and negative about Blair making it to campus. Your posts suddenly stopped once he did make it to campus. And now you are back at it claiming the whole time you were right.

You were right in the sense it didn't work out. But wrong in the sense that he did make it to campus.

But whatever

 

[MJSooner]

Not sure why he was a scholarship player in the first place. Has there ever been a baseball and basketball player make it work at OU? Sucks because OU could have got a depth piece in the offseason from the portal with Blair’s scholarship.

My understanding is that regardless of the sport, the scholarship counts toward the first sport played during the academic year. So basically impossible to count against baseball if they play any other sport.

Plus, Blair was also a top 75 player in basketball (high as top 60) so he would be scholarship material anyway.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I don't remember anyone laughing at you...except maybe coach

BUT to be fair, I went back and looked at your Blair posts. They were all about how he would never make it on campus. He made it to campus and played in a game.
Its funny because you were very vocal and negative about Blair making it to campus. Your posts suddenly stopped once he did make it to campus. And now you are back at it claiming the whole time you were right.

You were right in the sense it didn't work out. But wrong in the sense that he did make it to campus.

But whatever

sure, technically I was wrong, but what real difference does it make that he made it to campus and bailed via text after playing two minutes of basketball, as opposed to him not making it to campus? I guess I gave him too much credit and figured that he and his family would be smart enough to realize before the draft that if teams were truly interested in him in the second or third round, that was what he should have done. Instead, it seems like he underestimated how difficult it would be to play both sports, and/or was surprised how difficult it was going to be for him to play a big role this season on the basketball team. Or, he also might have discovered that his baseball production was suffering because unlike his teammates, he wasn't able to get constant reps on the diamond. I made that exact point numerous times: baseball is the hardest sport in the world. Hitters, in particular, need thousands of at bats. You aren't going to get that when you are moonlighting and getting a few reps here and there between basketball practice and games. This is all obvious stuff. I totally understand why he would want to do both, but I am very surprised no one was able to make him see the reality before it got to this point.

 

[jdizzle34]

This is something Moser should have had under control weeks or months ago. It shouldn't have dragged until the regular season.

Why do OU coaches (BV, Jennie, Porter, etc.) all struggle with roster management? One sneeze too hard for either JB or PM's teams and they have less than 10 scholarship players available (and some of those aren't OU level, as it is).

 

[Boom Soon]

I don't think we are really privy to know the details.
Maybe he was pretty open with Moser and the team that he was going to try both but if it became too much he would side with baseball

Not surprising that a naive 18 year old kid realized he couldn’t juggle college and two D1 sports that are back to back. If Jones is healthy then this isn’t a big deal. He wasn’t going to play much this year then he probably goes pro in baseball next year.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Not surprising that a naive 18 year old kid realized he couldn’t juggle college and two D1 sports that are back to back. If Jones is healthy then this isn’t a big deal. He wasn’t going to play much this year then he probably goes pro in baseball next year.

He can't go pro till the 2028 draft now. I hope for his sake he really likes college and loves playing college baseball, because he locked himself in for three years. I think the only exception would be if he drops out of OU and goes to a JUCO.

 

[Boom Soon]

He can't go pro till the 2028 draft now. I hope for his sake he really likes college and loves playing college baseball, because he locked himself in for three years. I think the only exception would be if he drops out of OU and goes to a JUCO.

Oh gotcha.

 

[MJSooner]

This is something Moser should have had under control weeks or months ago. It shouldn't have dragged until the regular season.

Why do OU coaches (BV, Jennie, Porter, etc.) all struggle with roster management? One sneeze too hard for either JB or PM's teams and they have less than 10 scholarship players available (and some of those aren't OU level, as it is).

it's college athletics in 2025. not just an OU problem

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is something Moser should have had under control weeks or months ago. It shouldn't have dragged until the regular season.

Why do OU coaches (BV, Jennie, Porter, etc.) all struggle with roster management? One sneeze too hard for either JB or PM's teams and they have less than 10 scholarship players available (and some of those aren't OU level, as it is).

Dealing with college age kids is tough. They can be unpredictable

 

[CoachTalk]

This is something Moser should have had under control weeks or months ago. It shouldn't have dragged until the regular season.

Why do OU coaches (BV, Jennie, Porter, etc.) all struggle with roster management? One sneeze too hard for either JB or PM's teams and they have less than 10 scholarship players available (and some of those aren't OU level, as it is).

lol.

This is porters best roster! How’s that a struggle? They have 14 guys still…

Jennie? Catching strays. Spent their money on the kids they wanted. Don’t want 4 bums eating reps. They practice 80% with 5 male practice players.

BV best roster…

What a bad take in 2025 college landscape

 

[stormspencer]

I hate to harp on it because nothing can be done about it this year, but I looked at Mississippi State's non-con and this is exactly what we should be doing:

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I hate to harp on it because nothing can be done about it this year, but I looked at Mississippi State's non-con and this is exactly what we should be doing:

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That actually doesn't look a lot different than ours does it? **** games at home. Only difference is their bad games are in the upper 200s and our are the 300s

 

[WichitaSooner]

I hate to harp on it because nothing can be done about it this year, but I looked at Mississippi State's non-con and this is exactly what we should be doing:

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Yep, that sets them up nicely if they perform well against that schedule. And they aren't expected to be as good as OU, yet they put together a very solid schedule. Not a single 300 team in the mix.

I saw yesterday that the firs NET rankings will be released on Dec. 1. My guess is that Moser will immediately start calling the bottom 20 teams to see how quickly he can get 7 of them to agree to play us next season.

 

[BoulderSooner]

My understanding is that regardless of the sport, the scholarship counts toward the first sport played during the academic year. So basically impossible to count against baseball if they play any other sport.

Plus, Blair was also a top 75 player in basketball (high as top 60) so he would be scholarship material anyway.

it is based on a importance scale .. if you play football at all you have to count as a football scholarship .. then basketball then others ..

so he counts a a bball guy ..

the only way to play football and another sport and count against the other sport only is not not be involved in football at all the first year on campus (no practice or anything)

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Miss State's avg opponent net rating is 139
OU's avg opponent net rating is 193

OUr sub 100 oppenents avg net is 55 (six games)
Their sub 100 oppenents avg net is 52 (six games)

Sub 100: they play 6. We play 6
100-200: They play 1 we play 0
200-300: They play 3 we play 1
300+: They play 1 we play 5

Seems like a pretty similar strategy, their bad teams just aren't quite as bad