Bennett

[bgrch1350]

Re: Bennet

That's not what you said. You said M'Baye wouldn't be a starter his first season. You even questioned Kruger's wisdom in using a scholarship on him.

No one that I can recall said Amath would be the best player. Everyone knew, or should have known, that Osby was the best player going into last season. Did some of feel M'Baye would be a good player. Absolutely. And we were right.

I didn't think he would start over Fitzgerald. I stand corrected on that.

I never questioned using a scholarship on M'Baye. I said he wasn't that good at Wyoming. That Wyoming was better the year after he left.

And you probably don't recall anyone saying he wouldn't be our best player b/c all you do is focus on what I say. And to be quite honest...He didn't prove to me that he was better than Fitz last year. He averaged 11 more minutes a game than Fitz and only averaged one more rebound a game. Fitz averaged 12ppg in conference his junior year while M'Baye only averaged 10ppg in conference last year. But I really don't care...b/c we made it to the tournament with Fitz coming off the bench and M'Baye starting. I wish M'Baye was on this team. But he's not and all we have is Spangler and Bennett.

 

[bgrch1350]

Re: Bennet

I agree that M'Baye's announcement caught LK by surprise. Everything I have read and heard confirms that to be true. The news had our coaches scrambling to go the juco route to fill the void. And, as we all know now, Plan B didn't work out too well.



That's one thing we can agree on.

I have always been a proponent of signing an occasional juco player to fill a need, to add depth or to bring in an older, more mature player to offset inexperience. OU's tough luck with juco players the past three years has soured me on recruiting juco transfers, unless there we have no other choice. I've said this before and I'll say it again. For every good juco player we've had the last four to five years, I can name at least two or more who were all but a waste of a scholarship.

Juco players are not what they use to be. Kids go the prep school route now.

 

[bocabull]

Re: Bennet

No one that I can recall said Amath would be the best player. Everyone knew, or should have known, that Osby was the best player going into last season. Did some of feel M'Baye would be a good player. Absolutely. And we were right.

This is total revisionist history. The storyline in/after Krugers first season was that Capel had exaggerated how good Osby was to try & save his job. The storyline was also that M'Baye was destroying everybody in practice and was looking so good he was very likely a 1 and done lottery pick. Even that dope Fran F was shilling for him and most around here were singing the same tune.

 

[AdaSooner]

Re: Bennet

I didn't think he would start over Fitzgerald. I stand corrected on that.

I never questioned using a scholarship on M'Baye. I said he wasn't that good at Wyoming. That Wyoming was better the year after he left.

And you probably don't recall anyone saying he wouldn't be our best player b/c all you do is focus on what I say. And to be quite honest...He didn't prove to me that he was better than Fitz last year. He averaged 11 more minutes a game than Fitz and only averaged one more rebound a game. Fitz averaged 12ppg in conference his junior year while M'Baye only averaged 10ppg in conference last year. But I really don't care...b/c we made it to the tournament with Fitz coming off the bench and M'Baye starting. I wish M'Baye was on this team. But he's not and all we have is Spangler and Bennett.

I don't focus on what you say at all. I honestly don't remember anyone saying that M'Baye would be the best player last year. I'm not ruling out the possibility someone made that comment. That's why I said "I don't recall." I do know that it should have been obvious to everyone on this board who read the practice reports and saw Romero play his junior season, that he was far and away the best player on the team.

Juco players are not what they use to be. Kids go the prep school route now.

One more thing we agree on. And, it's been that way for a long time. It's still possible to find an occasional gem going the juco route. But they're few and far between these days. The good ol' days of building a team around juco players the way Billy and the Tark did several years ago is gone forever.

 

[AdaSooner]

Re: Bennet

This is total revisionist history. The storyline in/after Krugers first season was that Capel had exaggerated how good Osby was to try & save his job. The storyline was also that M'Baye was destroying everybody in practice and was looking so good he was very likely a 1 and done lottery pick. Even that dope Fran F was shilling for him and most around here were singing the same tune.

I stand corrected. Now that you have called my attention to the reports beings spread back then, I can remember someone making that prediction. It certainly wasn't me.

It was evident fairly early in the season the prediction was wrong, and that last year's team would only go as far as Osby could carry it.

 

[BigTime]

Re: Bennet

This is total revisionist history. The storyline in/after Krugers first season was that Capel had exaggerated how good Osby was to try & save his job. The storyline was also that M'Baye was destroying everybody in practice and was looking so good he was very likely a 1 and done lottery pick. Even that dope Fran F was shilling for him and most around here were singing the same tune.

Osby has been quoted saying how much Kruger and Henson helped him develop.

Capel wanted him to play the 3! Lol

 

[Stikboy]

Re: Bennet

I stand corrected. Now that you have called my attention to the reports beings spread back then, I can remember someone making that prediction. It certainly wasn't me.

It was evident fairly early in the season the prediction was wrong, and that last year's team would only go as far as Osby could carry it.

LOL

I hope this is tongue in cheek.

The last thing you need to do is apologize about "revisionist history" being spread on this board. There have been so many fabrications, misrepresentations, and all out lies put forth about what Capel, his staff, and some of is players are or got credit for, it's laughable.

It amazes me how instead of supporting the team, a certain few seem to get off on finding the smallest chink or flaw in Kruger or his recruited players, while blowing up(ridiculous as it may be) Capel and his recruiting and coaching abilities, while downplaying his enormous flaws. I've never seen anything like it. It makes me wonder if some of Capel's relatives joined this board while he was a coach and never left? It blows my mind how so many who claim to be supporters of OU bball so fervently defend such a black eye on our program's history, while bagging on the classiest coach OU has ever had? I can't understand it. What could be the reason?

 

[usedtobe1]

Re: Bennet

I do remember a lot of talk about M'Baye being one and done. I was surprised when I saw him play after all the hype. He sure would have helped us this year.

 

[bocabull]

Re: Bennet

I stand corrected. Now that you have called my attention to the reports beings spread back then, I can remember someone making that prediction. It certainly wasn't me.

It was evident fairly early in the season the prediction was wrong, and that last year's team would only go as far as Osby could carry it.

Correct. Osby started slow but by the middle of his first season it was obvious to everybody how good he was. Stikboy, maybe you weren't around but it was a very common theme when Osby started slow that Capel had overhyped him in an attempt to save his job.

It didn't take long for people to see M'Baye was the one who had been overhyped once he played in live games. Nice player, but lol @Fran pimping him so hard. Shows why he's flying coach calling C level games.