Bi-Polar OU Fan

Edmond_Sooner

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I am so torn on my opinions, the positive person in me wants to really rally around these kids and stick behind them all season even though they clearly dont have the talent to compete...

but the negative person in me wants to just slam Capel and what is happening with this team, not really pointing out players in particular, but it is almost impossible to criticize a program and only talk about the coach...these players have a lot to do with what is going on...

I change my mind about every day on how i feel about the program...one thing is constant, we suck...but at least the positive me can enjoy life a little...

I feel like an OSU football fan right now...Maybe next year?
 
I am so torn on my opinions, the positive person in me wants to really rally around these kids and stick behind them all season even though they clearly dont have the talent to compete...

but the negative person in me wants to just slam Capel and what is happening with this team, not really pointing out players in particular, but it is almost impossible to criticize a program and only talk about the coach...these players have a lot to do with what is going on...

I change my mind about every day on how i feel about the program...one thing is constant, we suck...but at least the positive me can enjoy life a little...

I feel like an OSU football fan right now...Maybe next year?

Good post.
 
I am so torn on my opinions, the positive person in me wants to really rally around these kids and stick behind them all season even though they clearly dont have the talent to compete...

but the negative person in me wants to just slam Capel and what is happening with this team, not really pointing out players in particular, but it is almost impossible to criticize a program and only talk about the coach...these players have a lot to do with what is going on...

I change my mind about every day on how i feel about the program...one thing is constant, we suck...but at least the positive me can enjoy life a little...

I feel like an OSU football fan right now...Maybe next year?

I go through this very same confusion every day Edmond... :confused:
 
I'm in the same boat, Edmond. Andrew Fitzgerald had a great game yesterday, and all I wanted to talk about was how far this program has fallen and my displeasure with Nick Thompson's intentional foul. That's not even close to what I represent as an OU basketball fan. Heck, I was a charter member of the sunshine pumpers' club when pumping sunshine wasn't in vogue.

I'm ashamed of what I've become sometimes. But it's hard for me to keep quiet about the lack of improvement I've seen in some areas. I did that last year, and I can't force myself to pretend I'm happy with more of the same.
 
I'm in the same boat, Edmond. Andrew Fitzgerald had a great game yesterday, and all I wanted to talk about was how far this program has fallen and my displeasure with Nick Thompson's intentional foul. That's not even close to what I represent as an OU basketball fan. Heck, I was a charter member of the sunshine pumpers' club when pumping sunshine wasn't in vogue.

I'm ashamed of what I've become sometimes. But it's hard for me to keep quiet about the lack of improvement I've seen in some areas. I did that last year, and I can't force myself to pretend I'm happy with more of the same.

pretty much conveys my feelings. never thought I'd ever be this down on OU basketball.
 
I am so torn on my opinions, the positive person in me wants to really rally around these kids and stick behind them all season even though they clearly dont have the talent to compete...

but the negative person in me wants to just slam Capel and what is happening with this team, not really pointing out players in particular, but it is almost impossible to criticize a program and only talk about the coach...these players have a lot to do with what is going on...

I change my mind about every day on how i feel about the program...one thing is constant, we suck...but at least the positive me can enjoy life a little...

I feel like an OSU football fan right now...Maybe next year?
Im with ya. I feel weird about OU bball everyday. Good post.
 
I have a hard time blaming the players for this. If anyone on this board was offered a scholarship to play basketball at OU we would jump on it. ANYONE!!! I can't fault a kid for that, Capel has to know these guys can't play, have character issues, or area risk for making grades and not offer. It all comes back to him.
 
I sure feel the same way. I am happy to see Fitz's progress but my happiness ends there. Just a dismal year to be a OU men's basketball fan. I am sure the players feel worse than us though. They can't like the way things are going.:facepalm
 
I have a hard time blaming the players for this. If anyone on this board was offered a scholarship to play basketball at OU we would jump on it. ANYONE!!! I can't fault a kid for that, Capel has to know these guys can't play, have character issues, or area risk for making grades and not offer. It all comes back to him.

I know he recruited them and coaches them, but they still play...therefore they are going to get evaluated...

They are all good enough to play Division 1 basketball, therefore some of them should probably know what helpside defense is...reguardless if it is coached or not...kids have to execute game plans, not saying they have one...but we really dont know that either...

Probably what is so frustrating about this season...the fact that we cant tell if there is a gameplan, that could be from the lack of coaching or the lack of talent...there is a pattern that goes with the lack of coaching, but i wont fault those that think it is the players lack of execution...
 
Good post. At least Capel & the team is likable...that's one positive. I know, it doesn't make up for the fact that we are not going to win a lot of games. But, it's better than nothing.
 
It is pretty sad when the so called sunshine pumpers have become the biggest critics of the program. I remember arguing at length with people about the merits of young players and Coach Sampson. I stuck up for Capel his first season even though I was not happy. I just can't support Capel and it is hard to even support the players when they perform this poorly. I will not be shocked if they lose every single Big XII game. I doubt OU will ose 16 Big XII games but more than 4 wins will really surprise me. I see 4 winnable games on the conference shcedule and think OU will win two of them.
 
It is pretty sad when the so called sunshine pumpers have become the biggest critics of the program. I remember arguing at length with people about the merits of young players and Coach Sampson. I stuck up for Capel his first season even though I was not happy. I just can't support Capel and it is hard to even support the players when they perform this poorly. I will not be shocked if they lose every single Big XII game. I doubt OU will ose 16 Big XII games but more than 4 wins will really surprise me. I see 4 winnable games on the conference shcedule and think OU will win two of them.

I agree. The realistic view point is that whether you like Jeff Capel or not he has pretty much destroyed this basketball program. Time to move on.
 
I agree. The realistic view point is that whether you like Jeff Capel or not he has pretty much destroyed this basketball program. Time to move on.

Posters like Jerry make it easy for me to be on the side of Capel. The grass isn't always greener. Just ask Texas Tech and Kansas football fans.
 
Posters like Jerry make it easy for me to be on the side of Capel. The grass isn't always greener. Just ask Texas Tech and Kansas football fans.

I'm just saying, Texas Tech & Kansas both fired their coaches based on stupid allegations in which a firing (IMO) was not really warranted. I believe those firings were the case of administrations leading a witch hunt against coaches and capitalizing on the first opportunity they had to fire their coaches. So, I feel that OU's situation with Capel is fundamentally different.
 
I am so torn on my opinions, the positive person in me wants to really rally around these kids and stick behind them all season even though they clearly dont have the talent to compete...

but the negative person in me wants to just slam Capel and what is happening with this team, not really pointing out players in particular, but it is almost impossible to criticize a program and only talk about the coach...these players have a lot to do with what is going on...

I change my mind about every day on how i feel about the program...one thing is constant, we suck...but at least the positive me can enjoy life a little...

I feel like an OSU football fan right now...Maybe next year?

I can make this easy for you. I base my opinion on wins and losses. Lost 12 out of the last 14 last year. 5 losses in a row this year. 37 double digit losses under Capel. Will take the team to post season 2 times out of 5. 3 of the worst seasons in 60 years. Just not good enough for me.
 
Posters like Jerry make it easy for me to be on the side of Capel. The grass isn't always greener. Just ask Texas Tech and Kansas football fans.
Very different situations. Those were programs that those coaches had built and created success at, and were fired for off field incidents.

OU is an established program where Jeff Capel is experiencing a lack of success at, despite being a model representative off the court.
 
I was telling the wife how I was trying all summer to mentally prepare myself for the lack of talent (and wins) this year. Now that it's here, I try to be positive, but I just get PO'd watching the games, and even I, who has been down with Capel since day 1, want something to change for the better. I'm still down with one (only one) more year if he can turn things around, but it better be a big turnaround and these dudes plus Osby just ain't gonna have enough to get it done.
 
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