Big 12 Basketball Standings Prediction - May 2019

[thebigabd]

OSU is going to be good. Way too much shooting not to be. KU should be favored, but that is contingent on big improvements from Dotson and Agbaji. Baylor and WVU should be tournament teams. OU and Tech the wild cards. I don't expect much out of ISU, KSU, TCU or Texas.

Agreed.... OSU is going to be dangerous, especially if the young center (Yor Anei) develops further... They have a lot of talent top to bottom now.

I like Kansas, OSU, Baylor, WVU, and Tech this year. Texas will be pretty good too.

 

[skyvue]

Agreed.... OSU is going to be dangerous, especially if the young center (Yor Anei) develops further... They have a lot of talent top to bottom now.

I like Kansas, OSU, Baylor, WVU, and Tech this year. Texas will be pretty good too.

I take it, then, that all those teams are loaded with juco transfers?

 

[thebigabd]

I take it, then, that all those teams are loaded with juco transfers?

I don't think OSU has a single juco transfer on their team, so, no.

 

[SuperHoops]

I take it, then, that all those teams are loaded with juco transfers?

If they did he surely would be a big time player that OU blew it in not recruiting harder.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I am confused about people's views on OSU. When we swept them last season, we heard a lot of people discount those wins by talking about how terrible OSU was. Now plenty of people are predicting they will be good this season because they will be such a good shooting team. Yet they led the league in three-point shooting last season and finished 5-13. Great shooting is obviously a huge advantage, but sure isn't a guarantee if you don't have anything else to hang your hat on. The conference standings last season show that, and not just with respect to OSU. I expect them to gradually improve if their players stay out of trouble and Boynton continues to improve as a coach, but it seems like a big stretch to suggest they are in the top tier.

 

[thebigabd]

I am confused about people's views on OSU. When we swept them last season, we heard a lot of people discount those wins by talking about how terrible OSU was. Now plenty of people are predicting they will be good this season because they will be such a good shooting team. Yet they led the league in three-point shooting last season and finished 5-13. Great shooting is obviously a huge advantage, but sure isn't a guarantee if you don't have anything else to hang your hat on. The conference standings last season show that, and not just with respect to OSU. I expect them to gradually improve if their players stay out of trouble and Boynton continues to improve as a coach, but it seems like a big stretch to suggest they are in the top tier.

I wouldn't say great shooting is their only advantage... They have athletic ability, and a good combo of players in the paint.

Cameron McGriff is a solid 4 year player at power forward, averages 12 and
7 which is pretty solid... and Yor Anei is a 6'10'' 230 center who led the Big 12 in blocks as a freshman. Against TCU he had 17 points, 10 rebounds, and 7 blocks... Against Baylor he had 14 points, 9 rebounds, and 6 blocks... Against WVU he had 16 points, 6 rebounds, and 8 blocks.. 6 blocks against Memphis too...

You got a guy getting 6, 8, and 7 blocks in individual games as a true freshman... that is pretty darn good.

He had your typical freshman struggles but he showed a ton of promise out there.

Same thing with the point guard, Likekele... Guy is going to be REALLY good I think... 6'4'', good athlete, #2 in Big 12 in assists last year. Lots of weapons around him this year. He should have a great year.

Last year they had 6 scholarship players... this year they will have all the shooters and post talent back, with 5-6 guys off the bench who are 4 star players...

Looks like they have all the pieces

 

[sperry]

I am confused about people's views on OSU. When we swept them last season, we heard a lot of people discount those wins by talking about how terrible OSU was. Now plenty of people are predicting they will be good this season because they will be such a good shooting team. Yet they led the league in three-point shooting last season and finished 5-13. Great shooting is obviously a huge advantage, but sure isn't a guarantee if you don't have anything else to hang your hat on. The conference standings last season show that, and not just with respect to OSU. I expect them to gradually improve if their players stay out of trouble and Boynton continues to improve as a coach, but it seems like a big stretch to suggest they are in the top tier.

OSU was terrible last year because they had absolutely no one coming off the bench. They bring back their entire starting five, add an excellent grad transfer, and supplement that with a top 25 recruiting class.

Senior guards, elite shooting, and this time around they shouldn't have depth issues. That's a team that should be very good. I'll be looking to get money on them at 200:1 to win the championship.

 

[WichitaSooner]

OSU was terrible last year because they had absolutely no one coming off the bench. They bring back their entire starting five, add an excellent grad transfer, and supplement that with a top 25 recruiting class.

Senior guards, elite shooting, and this time around they shouldn't have depth issues. That's a team that should be very good. I'll be looking to get money on them at 200:1 to win the championship.

At those odds I agree it would be worth throwing down a few bucks, although I don't see any way they actually win the title. But IMHO depth is a bit overrated in the college games. Teams have won the national title, or at least made the FF, playing a 7-man rotation. I agree with you guys thinking they will be improved, I just disagree with how much better they will be. But that's the fun part of the offseason.

 

[Eielson]

OSU sucks. You can quote me on that.

 

[BCSooners]

OSU sucks. You can quote me on that.

Just did.

Just kidding I agree that they will struggle again unless the freshmen help out quite a bit.

 

[stormspencer]

I am confused about people's views on OSU. When we swept them last season, we heard a lot of people discount those wins by talking about how terrible OSU was. Now plenty of people are predicting they will be good this season because they will be such a good shooting team. Yet they led the league in three-point shooting last season and finished 5-13. Great shooting is obviously a huge advantage, but sure isn't a guarantee if you don't have anything else to hang your hat on. The conference standings last season show that, and not just with respect to OSU. I expect them to gradually improve if their players stay out of trouble and Boynton continues to improve as a coach, but it seems like a big stretch to suggest they are in the top tier.

I don't think OSU is in the top tier. After Baylor, KU, and Tech....i believe there will be a noticeable dropoff. Candidly, I think any one of four teams could finish fourth....I just picked OU fourth because I'm a homer. I would guess that the strength of the conference might take a slight hit in the metrics (because of quality player losses), but the conference should still be in the Top 3. And that equates the conference getting five into the tournament for sure....and very likely six.

I do believe that the 3 bottom teams will be ISU, KSU, and TCU (in any order) based on attrition alone.

 

[thebigabd]

Baylor should be very good... Tristan Clark comes back... Keglar, Butler, Vitale, Bandoo are back.

Macio Teague becomes eligible... he was 1st team All Big South at UNC Asheville. Averaged 17ppg and shot 42% from 3pt line. he was the Ohio player of the year in high school too. Supposed to be very good.

Davion Mitchell becomes eligible... transfer from Auburn... #33 player in recruiting class.

They are loaded and have a chance to win the league.

 

[sperry]

Baylor should be very good... Tristan Clark comes back... Keglar, Butler, Vitale, Bandoo are back.

Macio Teague becomes eligible... he was 1st team All Big South at UNC Asheville. Averaged 17ppg and shot 42% from 3pt line. he was the Ohio player of the year in high school too. Supposed to be very good.

Davion Mitchell becomes eligible... transfer from Auburn... #33 player in recruiting class.

They are loaded and have a chance to win the league.

You inspired me to look deeper at Baylor, and I'm going to bet a championship future on them as well. Also going to bet them to win the league if I can get decent odds (and find anywhere offering the bet).

 

[SuperHoops]

I don't think OSU is in the top tier. After Baylor, KU, and Tech....i believe there will be a noticeable dropoff. Candidly, I think any one of four teams could finish fourth....I just picked OU fourth because I'm a homer. I would guess that the strength of the conference might take a slight hit in the metrics (because of quality player losses), but the conference should still be in the Top 3. And that equates the conference getting five into the tournament for sure....and very likely six.

I do believe that the 3 bottom teams will be ISU, KSU, and TCU (in any order) based on attrition alone.

I don't see OSU as a top tier team either unless a couple of their incoming freshmen perform at a really high level. The Boone twins had a rep of being "lazy" on the AAU circuit amongst some here in Tulsa. But that is AAU ball so it may not translate to D-1 level basketball with a coach riding your ass 24/7.

 

[CoachTalk]

I don't see OSU as a top tier team either unless a couple of their incoming freshmen perform at a really high level. The Boone twins had a rep of being "lazy" on the AAU circuit amongst some here in Tulsa. But that is AAU ball so it may not translate to D-1 level basketball with a coach riding your ass 24/7.

They have 2-3 recruits better than the twins.

One has a rep of lazy. They other is exact opposite.

I think OSU is 5-7 range. For sure a tournament team

 

[thebigabd]

They have 2-3 recruits better than the twins.

One has a rep of lazy. They other is exact opposite.

I think OSU is 5-7 range. For sure a tournament team

Post depth is the problem I see... They are VERY guard heavy. Anei, McGriff, and the Boones are the only post guys on roster... Every other player is a guard or wing. that means they need at least one of the Boones to be serviceable as a backup.

 

[SuperHoops]

I think they are still working on a grad transfer big or another recruit. They were supposedly in on that JUCO forward that decommitted from Tech recently but I don't know how that is going to play out if it hasn't already.

 

[SuperHoops]

Khalid Thomas is who I was thinking of but it appears he has already committed to Arizona State.

 

[CoachTalk]

Post depth is the problem I see... They are VERY guard heavy. Anei, McGriff, and the Boones are the only post guys on roster... Every other player is a guard or wing. that means they need at least one of the Boones to be serviceable as a backup.

We all know post depth is overrated.

Yuri will be fine. Better boon twin is the post if I remember correctly.

 

[sperry]

Post depth is the problem I see... They are VERY guard heavy. Anei, McGriff, and the Boones are the only post guys on roster... Every other player is a guard or wing. that means they need at least one of the Boones to be serviceable as a backup.

Who aside from Kansas is going to give them trouble inside?