Cliff Alexander inelligible

[jackson_supersooner]

Just came across the tv

 

[Laxtothemax12]

and Texas is desperate, actually rooting for Texas in that game

 

[jackson_supersooner]

Yep! If Baylor KSU and Texas wins we can afford a loss against ISU and still win a share at home! Makes it less pressure for us on Monday.

 

[JBaker]

Kansas should have to forfeit the whole season.

 

[AdaSooner]

Kansas should have to forfeit the whole season.

Now, wouldn't that be sweet!

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Kansas should have to forfeit the whole season.

Well, Cliff Alexander's high school team did. Story from exactly one year ago:

http://www.allkyhoops.com/2014/02/cliff-alexanders-high-school-team.html

Some crazy news was announced this afternoon about former Kentucky recruit Cliff Alexander's high school team.

Chicago Curie (Ill.) was reportedly playing with seven (yes 7!) academically ineligible players this season.

As a result, the team must forfeit all 24 wins and the public league championship.

Here is a release from Chicago Public Schools:

“Chicago Public Schools has a proud tradition of athletic competition and sportsmanship, but our No. 1 responsibility to our students is providing them with a solid academic foundation that will serve them the rest of their lives.

"A District investigation into the academic eligibility of members of the Curie Metropolitan High School boys varsity basketball team found that a number of the players are academically ineligible to compete and, as a result, their season must be forfeited. As adults, educators and mentors, it is our responsibility to teach our students right from wrong and, unfortunately, the adults let these student athletes down by failing to do that and comply with CPS policies.”

 

[jackson_supersooner]

Seriously is ridiculous that high school kids can't pass...absolutely amazing to me.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Seriously is ridiculous that high school kids can't pass...absolutely amazing to me.

Let's not be quick to judge. Unfortunately, many kids don't have two parents at home, or otherwise have a tough home life. I wish it wasn't so.

I have no idea what the high school drop out rate is across the country, but it is too high.

The fact that some kids get a chance at a good college education through college athletics is a good thing. A very good thing. The possibility of an athletic scholarship helps some of the kids to work harder in high school. Also a good thing.

 

[jackson_supersooner]

Let's not be quick to judge. Unfortunately, many kids don't have two parents at home, or otherwise have a tough home life. I wish it wasn't so.

I have no idea what the high school drop out rate is across the country, but it is too high.

The fact that some kids get a chance at a good college education through college athletics is a good thing. A very good thing. The possibility of an athletic scholarship helps some of the kids to work harder in high school. Also a good thing.

Sorry we will agree to disagree on that. If a kid can have time to play basketball a kid has time to study. End of story.

 

[AdaSooner]

Chicago Curie (Ill.) was reportedly playing with seven (yes 7!) academically ineligible players this season.

Assuming Alexander is one of the seven, this could mean he wasn't eligible to sign with Kansas in the first place. That may not be the case, but that seems to be the implied message here.

 

[skyvue]

There are definitely some poor parents out there, but the schools let these kids down, too, by letting them progress from grade to grade, even when they're not ready. Athletes are too often allowed to slide by, in both behavioral and academic terms, and neither does them any favors.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Not much information, but here are links related to the current Cliff Alexander situation:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...-miss-texas-game-due-to-developing-ncaa-issue

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/feb/28/cliff-alexander-wont-play-against-texas-ku-looks-p/

 

[SoonerTraveler]

There are definitely some poor parents out there, but the schools let these kids down, too, by letting them progress from grade to grade, even when they're not ready. Athletes are too often allowed to slide by, in both behavioral and academic terms, and neither does them any favors.

Very true.

 

[MsProudSooner]

What do you want to bet that the NCAA will decide the outcome on this quickly? No living in limbo for KU!

 

[AdaSooner]

There are definitely some poor parents out there, but the schools let these kids down, too, by letting them progress from grade to grade, even when they're not ready. Athletes are too often allowed to slide by, in both behavioral and academic terms, and neither does them any favors.

I couldn't agree more that the school failed miserably in making sure these kids were eligible. If the report Traveler posted is accurate, seems to me the school is largely to blame here.

This was not a case of one or two students. Seven players were ruled ineligible. That has all of the markings of misconduct involving more than one position in that school. The kids and their parents may be partly to blame, too. But when adults in teaching, coaching and administrative positions are telling them everything is okay, it's hard to point the finger at young kids who would rather play basketball than study anyway.

 

[thegreyghost]

Don't know the situation but schools in the Chicago public league have always had issues

 

[skyvue]

I couldn't agree more that the school failed miserably in making sure these kids were eligible. If the report Traveler posted is accurate, seems to me the school is largely to blame here.

This was not a case of one or two students. Seven players were ruled ineligible. That has all of the markings of misconduct involving more than one position in that school. The kids and their parents may be partly to blame, too. But when adults in teaching, coaching and administrative positions are telling them everything is okay, it's hard to point the finger at young kids who would rather play basketball than study anyway.

Not saying it applies in this case, but kids also get the wrong idea about what they can get away with. Misbehavior is often overlooked with a wink, and academic failings are glossed over in order to keep a kid eligible to play.

 

[tsou89]

There are definitely some poor parents out there, but the schools let these kids down, too, by letting them progress from grade to grade, even when they're not ready. Athletes are too often allowed to slide by, in both behavioral and academic terms, and neither does them any favors.

Wow. Now it's the schools fault! You know, it's possible to be promoted from one grade to the next without actually being prepared to go to college! Not every student graduating from high school has earned entry into a 4 year institution.

 

[skyvue]

Wow. Now it's the schools fault! You know, it's possible to be promoted from one grade to the next without actually being prepared to go to college! Not every student graduating from high school has earned entry into a 4 year institution.

Sometimes it is, in part, the school's fault, yes. Any time a grade is fudged, a test score is rounded up, or a behavioral problem is overlooked in order to keep an athlete eligible and active, it is, in part, the school's fault and they are doing the young athlete no favors in the long run.

 

[Max Power]

Sometimes it is, in part, the school's part, yes. Any time a grade is fudged, a test score is rounded up, or a behavioral problem is overlooked in order to keep an athlete eligible and active, it is, in part, the school's part and they are ding the young athlete no favors in the long run.

Amen sky