Coale "fires" DeCosta and Thraikill

[Oliver Hardy]

Exactly, Atlanta. This either works and she's gone in a year or two, or it doesn't and she's ousted after next season.

That's the exact reason we should all be worried that quality assistants won't seriously consider coming because they fear the writing may be on the wall for Sherri.

No matter the sport cleaning out assistant coaches is the last move of a coach who won't be holding a job if she doesn't win like crazy the year following everyone else's firing.

 

[Speedy17]

Speedy17,
There's a recruiting pitch to get someone like Dionnah.
Fix OU Hoops become the Hoops version of LR.

I mean Sherri like Bob when he cleaned house is a year or two from retiring.
And if the coaching changes don't stick, she's retired next year by Joe C.

Atlanta,

Dionnah is going to have head coaching opportunities. Why go be an assistant along with Colton? The OU job has more risk associated with it than reward. Just staying at Miss State and winning a national title will be worth more than hanging out with Sherri in Norman. I think Miss State wins it this year.

By the way, Bob left an albatross for Lincoln in Mike. What do you think Colton would be?

 

[atlantasooner]

Speedy17,
Does Dionnah want the OU job?? yes or no.
If yes.

Ask yourself how many head coaches did Joe C interview to replace Bob?? None.
How many head coaches would have loved the OU job. ten easily??

Dionnah can secure the OU job by being the top assistant that fixes OU women's hoops.

Is it a gamble?? Sure but if it tanks Dionnah can accurately probably just blame Sherri and
get hired again at a top program.

 

[atlantasooner]

Colton is irrelevant. He's not Mike Stoops.
Other than the outrageous level of nepotism involved there's no comparison
in terms of impact on the program.

 

[sybarite]

Random comments:

---Sherri once mentioned on the Rudi's show that Colton wasn't sure that he wanted to go into coaching.

---Abi Olajuwon is at TCU.

---I don't think there is a big available for the 2019-2020 season that would be of interest.

---Were there not some rumors that Chad was looking elsewhere a couple of months ago?

---Dionnah may see Mississippi State as not the ideal location from which too build. A lot of their success is due to one key player. What happens next year? Is Daphane White as good as some say?

 

[atlantasooner]

For pretty much the final time,
OU just went 8-22 the notion that there's no one available in spring recruiting that
can help this roster is absurd.

The talent level is horrible.

 

[Speedy17]

Speedy17,
Does Dionnah want the OU job?? yes or no.
If yes.

Ask yourself how many head coaches did Joe C interview to replace Bob?? None.
How many head coaches would have loved the OU job. ten easily??

Dionnah can secure the OU job by being the top assistant that fixes OU women's hoops.

Is it a gamble?? Sure but if it tanks Dionnah can accurately probably just blame Sherri and
get hired again at a top program.

Please do not compare the OU Football job to the OU WBB job. One is legendary while the other is ok and currently a dumpster fire. There are many WBB jobs that are equal or better than OU. Sherri is not going to give up control like Bob. All you have to do is look at her current assistants and you know that.

If the team continues to be a dumpster fire and Jackson-Durrett joins it then she burns up with it. If she stays at Miss State and continues to go to Final Fours, she will be ready when Sherri is gone (unless they give it to Colton). In the mean time, other opportunities at schools as good as OU will become available.

My point is the Jackson-Durrett would be taking a greater risk coming to OU as an assistant than by simply staying at Miss State.

 

[sybarite]

For pretty much the final time,
OU just went 8-22 the notion that there's no one available in spring recruiting that
can help this roster is absurd.

The talent level is horrible.

Have you looked at the transfer list? Every "big" knows where she is going when she announces her transfer. Recruited? Most look like they are headed to DII. Immediate help? Europe? Australia?

 

[soonermike22]

It is now a FACT that we are changing 2 or our assistant coaches. We have the opportunity to bring in talented assistants. And for all the dislike of nepotism, we don't really know Coltons coaching ability, only his lack of experience. One or two additional players with size to go with the young talent we have on campus plus those we have commitments from could allow us to be in the top half of the big 12 next year, make the NCAA's, and be even better 2 years from now. That is the opportunity ahead of us, let"s see if we take advantage of it.

 

[Speedy17]

Random comments:

---Sherri once mentioned on the Rudi's show that Colton wasn't sure that he wanted to go into coaching.

---Abi Olajuwon is at TCU.

---I don't think there is a big available for the 2019-2020 season that would be of interest.

---Were there not some rumors that Chad was looking elsewhere a couple of months ago?

---Dionnah may see Mississippi State as not the ideal location from which too build. A lot of their success is due to one key player. What happens next year? Is Daphane White as good as some say?

Miss State has Vic Schaefer, the best defensive coach in the country. They will continue to be good.

 

[Speedy17]

For pretty much the final time,
OU just went 8-22 the notion that there's no one available in spring recruiting that
can help this roster is absurd.

The talent level is horrible.

Atlanta,

On this point, we absolutely agree. It will not be a quick fix, regardless of Madi's comments.

 

[Soonerbay]

Atlanta,

On this point, we absolutely agree. It will not be a quick fix, regardless of Madi's comments.

Exactly. The program needs a clean sweep and rebuild. Patchwork with SC still in control will not do. She's the common denominator and in charge. If she could get great players...difference makers, game changers, players that make other players better...she would have had them by now. Those days are long gone.

 

[soonermike22]

Atlanta,

On this point, we absolutely agree. It will not be a quick fix, regardless of Madi's comments.

The big advantage BB has on other sports is that with only 5 on the court at a time, one or two talented players along with your role players and GOOD coaching, and GOOD on court leadership you can go from not very good to competitive in one year. But finding a talented center and maybe a talented big forward will be a must.
And someone is out there somewhere, if you can find her and recruit her.

 

[sybarite]

Miss State has Vic Schaefer, the best defensive coach in the country. They will continue to be good.

Good. But, on a sustained basis? How many programs have Mississippi or Mississippi State produced that have been consistent winners? Ole Miss won a title, but went on probation almost immediately. They had one good women's team. Mississippi has a million fewer people than Oklahoma, and an even worse academic reputation from which to recruit and build. Their athletes often leave the state.

 

[atlantasooner]

syb, it's called scouting and evaluating talent. and being realistic about the current roster.
Again, if OU was 22-8 with 5 player class loaded with top 50 kids, then I'd completely agree with you.

OU IS 8-22. I'm not sure you've really absorbed that fact. OU sucks. JUCO, international, Div 2 or 3. When you're 8-22 you don't get to be picky. Especially when Sherri under signed in the fall by at least 2 players.
Did I say bigs?? Nope I said talent. Any infusion of talent at any position is needed.
The entire roster is in awful shape.

 

[Soonerbay]

The big advantage BB has on other sports is that with only 5 on the court at a time, one or two talented players along with your role players and GOOD coaching, and GOOD on court leadership you can go from not very good to competitive in one year. But finding a talented center and maybe a talented big forward will be a must.
And someone is out there somewhere, if you can find her and recruit her.

Let's say the talent is out there somewhere. Why, why, why would they come to OU WBB?

 

[sooner8]

syb, it's called scouting and evaluating talent. and being realistic about the current roster.
Again, if OU was 22-8 with 5 player class loaded with top 50 kids, then I'd completely agree with you.

OU IS 8-22. I'm not sure you've really absorbed that fact. OU sucks. JUCO, international, Div 2 or 3. When you're 8-22 you don't get to be picky. Especially when Sherri under signed in the fall by at least 2 players.
Did I say bigs?? Nope I said talent. Any infusion of talent at any position is needed.
The entire roster is in awful shape.

And we have a Winner!!!!!!Well said atlanta the majority of OU's players are nice players thats about it.:OU-logo:

 

[atlantasooner]

sooner8, sadly in sport, you are who your record is.
OU's 8-22 which is awful.

 

[soonerstar]

Exactly. The program needs a clean sweep and rebuild. Patchwork with SC still in control will not do. She's the common denominator and in charge. If she could get great players...difference makers, game changers, players that make other players better...she would have had them by now. Those days are long gone.

You are spot on! Coale should have been the one to get axed. Then you can have a new head coach with his own staff. Could it be worse than 8-22? She is too much of a control freak to listen to an assistant.

 

[sybarite]

syb, it's called scouting and evaluating talent. and being realistic about the current roster.
Again, if OU was 22-8 with 5 player class loaded with top 50 kids, then I'd completely agree with you.

OU IS 8-22. I'm not sure you've really absorbed that fact. OU sucks. JUCO, international, Div 2 or 3. When you're 8-22 you don't get to be picky. Especially when Sherri under signed in the fall by at least 2 players.
Did I say bigs?? Nope I said talent. Any infusion of talent at any position is needed.
The entire roster is in awful shape.

From David Little to Peyton Little to Chicken Little?

If OU had had Maddie Manning and Vivi back for another year, we would probably have been about 18-12 or better. We had zero experience, but no worse talent than we had in 2018, except that we had no post who was ready for even a mediocre performance.

Madi, Ana, Taylor, Nydia
Jessi, Tatum
Liz, Gabby, Chloe

We probably haven''t had that much talent on this team since 2011 or 2012. If one of them can play defense in the interior, we will have no worse than a 16-14 type team next year. Next year's freshmen won't have juniors and seniors beside them. But, they will have two juniors and a bunch of talented sophs to learn from.

If I could find some interior help, I'd take it. If I could find a solid, experience point, I might want to take a look. But, it is absurd to say that we have no talent when we have about as good as we have had in a while.