Coale "fires" DeCosta and Thraikill

[soonermike22]

Let's say the talent is out there somewhere. Why, why, why would they come to OU WBB?

Why would someone decide to attend OU and play wbb?
You have to recruit them, and a big selling point is a center with talent leaving some unhappy situation could come in, start, be the leading scorer, and "lead" a programs rejuvenation. Just because we are all bummed out by recent wbb, it doesn't mean everybody in the world feels the same way or sees it that way. Recruit, recruit, also means sell, convince, point out the positive, and the opportunities.

 

[sooner8]

sooner8, sadly in sport, you are who your record is.
OU's 8-22 which is awful.

There should never be any Athletic Programs at OU that have that kind of record.Period.:OU-logo:

 

[SoonerSpock]

I would attempt to hire some high-profile athletes from the past. Courtney's playing career is likely coming to a close. Being able to play the game well doesn't mean you can necessarily teach the game, but I think she would be very effective in working with the post players. Heck, I'd be happy if she hired Whitney Hand/Jones.

I would prefer to see Sherri hire talented assistants from another top program like UConn, Notre Dame, Stanford, Maryland, Louisville, etc. I think assistants with no association to OU brings a totally different perspective and more new ideas than one that knows the Sherri Coale way of doing things. Much easier for a former Sooner to become another yes person like Jan, Pam, Chad and Colton.

 

[SoonerSpock]

Speedy17,
Does Dionnah want the OU job?? yes or no.
If yes.

Ask yourself how many head coaches did Joe C interview to replace Bob?? None.
How many head coaches would have loved the OU job. ten easily??

Dionnah can secure the OU job by being the top assistant that fixes OU women's hoops.

Is it a gamble?? Sure but if it tanks Dionnah can accurately probably just blame Sherri and
get hired again at a top program.

Drawing a parallel between Lincoln and Dionnah may be a stretch. We all know Lincoln showed Bob and Joe C. some unique characteristics that was an incentive for Bob to retire and turndown a realistic and last opportunity to win his 2nd natty and elevate his standing among coaching great. Lincoln was in high demand.

It would be unlikely to think he could hire Dionnah and in a year or two she will be another Lincoln. Those type coaches come along once every decade or two.

 

[SoonerSpock]

Atlanta,

On this point, we absolutely agree. It will not be a quick fix, regardless of Madi's comments.

Bingo!!!

 

[inoref]

I agree there little talent to work with right now and was even less on the staff. This IMO is the first thing I seen positive all year on the women side but I see no reason to stop at just two.

 

[cjhsooner]

This is proof that Sherri and her kid are untouchable. What a crock.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Yes on Chad, Syb. I believe I am the one who started that thread. I had some pretty good sources.

However, who can say this is the way he wanted to go out. Getting fired is never as good as quitting -- even if your employer claims it's to pursue other opportunities in basketball. What a standard, worn-out cup of crap.

Frankly, that line of BS makes Sherri look like a coward who doesn't have the honesty or courage to put a chink into her "perfect" persona.

Have the balls to say you fired someone because you didn't think they were cutting the mustard -- or better yet, simply say "I believe I needed to do this right because I'm to happy with where the program is and I think this is the change to be made." (Even if the biggest is you, the head coach).

And if next year is just as bad as this one even with better recruits, whose fault will it be then?

Finally, what stellar coach with half of working brain is going to put his/her career at risk when they know the head coach is likely to get fired next season? Not any proven one is my thinking. so just forget the two names that already have been mentioned on the boards. They aren't coming. At least Jackson isn't. Jon might with the promise of being head coach after Sherri leaves at the end of next year.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

syb, it's called scouting and evaluating talent. and being realistic about the current roster.
Again, if OU was 22-8 with 5 player class loaded with top 50 kids, then I'd completely agree with you.

OU IS 8-22. I'm not sure you've really absorbed that fact. OU sucks. JUCO, international, Div 2 or 3. When you're 8-22 you don't get to be picky. Especially when Sherri under signed in the fall by at least 2 players.
Did I say bigs?? Nope I said talent. Any infusion of talent at any position is needed.
The entire roster is in awful shape.

Exactly. Exactly! EXACTLY! -- Atlanta!

Tell me one top-named transfer who would come to OU now -- or assistant coach who would come here knowing that there is a better than 50-50 chance they are looking at getting fired in a coaching change next season.

Working with Sherri may not be the big draw some think it is, especially if it gets around you don't get to say anything other than "Yes, ma'am."

 

[SoonerSpock]

Good. But, on a sustained basis? How many programs have Mississippi or Mississippi State produced that have been consistent winners? Ole Miss won a title, but went on probation almost immediately. They had one good women's team. Mississippi has a million fewer people than Oklahoma, and an even worse academic reputation from which to recruit and build. Their athletes often leave the state.

Vic's first season at MSU was they went 13-17. 2014-2019 they have averaged 29.7 wins per season (30 to date, 37, 34, 28, 27 and 22). His combined record is 178-38 (29.7-6.3 average per year). I would consider those 6 seasons as very sustained.

 

[Soonerguy06]

The big advantage BB has on other sports is that with only 5 on the court at a time, one or two talented players along with your role players and GOOD coaching, and GOOD on court leadership you can go from not very good to competitive in one year. But finding a talented center and maybe a talented big forward will be a must.
And someone is out there somewhere, if you can find her and recruit her.

I agree. There's got to be a couple good players left out there that don't have a place yet. I wonder whatever happened to Boothe from Texas? She should be heading into her Junior season and I believe she went to a junior college last year. Is she signed with anyone? Players like that would be a great 'get' for us. I'm sure she's already been signed...knowing SC, she will sign an unknown high school player that is about six-foot-two and say she is a program changer... And turns out to be yet another Simpson.

 

[atlantasooner]

"From David Little to Peyton Little to Chicken Little?

If OU had had Maddie Manning and Vivi back for another year, we would probably have been about 18-12 or better. We had zero experience, but no worse talent than we had in 2018, except that we had no post who was ready for even a mediocre performance."

Syb,
if your aunt had balls, he'd be your uncle.
You have obviously not absorbed the totality of OU going 8-22 with no season long
injuries to any players.
Excuses are over. It's time to get real and make significant changes in
Recruiting
Evaluation
Strength and Conditioning
Coaching
Development

Will Sherri have the will to make the changes. Usually the legendary coach does not.
The pattern is all too familiar.

 

[Soonerbay]

I would prefer to she Sherri hire talented assistants from another top program like UConn, Notre Dame, Stanford, Maryland, Louisville, etc. I think assistants with no association with OU brings a totally different perspective and more new ideas than one that knows the Sherri Coale way of doing things. Much easier for a former Sooner to become another yes person like Jan, Pam, Chad and Colton.

I've just come to the conclusion that it is what it is until SC decides to leave...and takes her son with her. No one in their right (or left) mind from such successful teams is going to leave for Norman, unless they have a personal tie to the area (i.e. one of the OKC Thunder players has a wife that wants to coach...LOL). She'll hire someone, I suppose, but you best believe it will not be much different than having Thrailkill and DeCosta on staff. Where else were they going to go when they landed at OU? DeCosta was a disaster at San Jose St. and Thrailkill at a high school.

Can you imagine CDailey from UCONN (or even DJackson Durrett) coming to work for SC? Durrett has been with some great coaches and I can't see her wanting to settle for mediocrity. She already knows. First of all, that would never happen, but for the sake of a good laugh and argument, let's go with it. They would hear some crazy game time offensive plan from CCoale and throw their clipboard in the stand! At least feel like it! Successful programs as you've mentioned are like night and day to OU. I know of players recruited by UCONN that heard stories about if his assistants did not do their jobs, he didn't allow them to fly on the team flight. They had to get their own ticket back home! And I believe it!

 

[Soonerbay]

Exactly. Exactly! EXACTLY! -- Atlanta!

Tell me one top-named transfer who would come to OU now -- or assistant coach who would come here knowing that there is a better than 50-50 chance they are looking at getting fired in a coaching change next season.

Working with Sherri may not be the big draw some think it is, especially if it gets around you don't get to say anything other than "Yes, ma'am."

I'll second that!

 

[MsProudSooner]

Random comments:

---Sherri once mentioned on the Rudi's show that Colton wasn't sure that he wanted to go into coaching.

---Abi Olajuwon is at TCU.

---I don't think there is a big available for the 2019-2020 season that would be of interest.

---Were there not some rumors that Chad was looking elsewhere a couple of months ago?

---Dionnah may see Mississippi State as not the ideal location from which too build. A lot of their success is due to one key player. What happens next year? Is Daphane White as good as some say?

I thought that rumor about Thrailkill was last spring or summer, but I could be wrong.

Speaking of former players who are coaching, Britney Brown is at TCU with Abi.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

It was last year. I posted it.


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[Soonerbay]

I just don't think any of the former OU players would want to come back and serve as an assistant under SC, with or without CC providing the games offensive plan for them. There are a number of them working as assistants, but I guess if they wanted to coach at OU they would have been there by now. I doubt if CParis would ever consider it. Per discussions at CA State Championship Games...she's still playing overseas (averaging a double double). She was in Turkey and last played in China (two of the toughest leagues), just won a WNBA championship and has another year on a contract with Seattle. AParis is in the Czech Republic and retiring after this season...just accepted a job with Nike. She ain't going! SDales seems happy in the broadcast field. Sidebar: Did anyone else see Dales consoling KMulkey after the championship game after getting a little emotional? Doubt if she's coming to the rescue. Oh well.

EDIT: And lest we forget..SHansmeyer left her!

 

[SoonerinNC]

Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.

 

[Soonerbay]

Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.

+1

 

[sybarite]

Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.

I only saw them twice this year. I saw them maybe five times last year. They benefited greatly from a 6-7 post who seemed to be the difference maker, the player who made them a top three as opposed to a top 25 team.