Coale "fires" DeCosta and Thraikill

Lon's incoming class and redshirting star (Reeves) need to be as good as advertised.
I do think the assistant turnover set the program back.
 
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Lon's incoming class and redshirting star (Reeves) need to be as good as advertised.
I do think the assistant turnover set the program back.
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Absolutely, Henson and Hill were in total sync with Lon and they would get on the players. They really miss them.
 
Men's tennis is usually top rated. I do think this will be Coale's biggest challenge. Recruiting assistants that are up and coming to help improve OU basketball. I could see Durret, Ontjes, Brown, another top assistant or even a dynamic high school coach. I think OU could pay them more then what they are making. It is the Alma Mater. That can have a pull on people. I do think Colton needs to find another job and show what he is capable of.
 
But here are some potential real problems:

1. Sherri hires two new assistants. They get here and next season is almost as bad. Sherri gets fired. They are out of a job after a year.

2. She hires the two new assistants. There's not enough progress made and Sherri retires. They are out of a job after a year and they get partially blamed for the reason a hall of fame coach is gone. What coach is going to put his family and themselves through that possibility.

3. She hires the two new assistants and they all don't mesh, they get fed up and quit because she won't listen to them in coaching or recruiting.

4. She hires the two new assistants. She can't stand them and she fires them after a year.

5. What if she evaluates junior to 2nd in charge and that keeps other good coaches from coming?

There are other scenarios too. I'm just beginning to get a bad feeling about how this is all going to turn out.

I mean I just can't see top caliber coaches signing on to this dumpster fire there is so much uncertainty -- unless they come from the junior college level or DII, DIII.

Would any of you put your career at risk to make a jump to this heap of burning rubble?
 
Yes it is always easier to find the bad side, because their are more ways to make a mistake than to find the best case result, or even close to the best case result. There are lots of good young coaches at lesser programs that would take a chance to go to a P5 school, but you have to work to find, evaluate, and recruit them. And OU is not a heap of burning rubble. We still have good facilities, a big budget, a history of good teams in our past, a fan base that will attend if we play well, and a coach that is a great person and in the HOF.
Don't mistake a awful year as the end of the program. Failures can break you, or give you opportunities.
 
mikeareese said:
Men's tennis is usually top rated. I do think this will be Coale's biggest challenge. Recruiting assistants that are up and coming to help improve OU basketball. I could see Durret, Ontjes, Brown, another top assistant or even a dynamic high school coach. I think OU could pay them more then what they are making. It is the Alma Mater. That can have a pull on people. I do think Colton needs to find another job and show what he is capable of.
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Mike,

I think you make a good point that someone, somewhere is always willing to take the risk -- and that is true. The question becomes is that someone who is great/good enough to make a difference maker under the current circumstances.

But I don't think I'm trying to find the bad side. I believe I'm looking at the reality of the situation and judging what our chances really are to escape from this mess with the same head coach here.
 
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I think this is an opportunity where we COULD get better. You are correct that there are lots of ways to mess it up. For me the best case scenario is for Colton to find another job and take away the problem of nepotism, we hire 3 good assistants that can and will help us recruit and improve the players we have.
The odds are that a big improvement will not happen, but the mens program is a good example of how good long term assistants can really help a team, or losing them can hurt. I don't have any idea if the athletic or school administration have input into coaching changes, both hiring and firing, but I hope so. That might improve the odds of us getting back to where we all want the program to be. It isn't a must that it occur with this HC, or whether with another.

PS, the King (Barry) went thru a less successful stretch and Banowsky had a talk with him. Maybe SC did get a push to improve
PPS Keep up the post Oliver Hardy, as it is interesting to guess and opine.
 
I think she did, Mike. New president and GOP regents are bottom line kinda folks. They may not care a darn about WBB, but they do care about the university' image and losing millions a year.

I know virtually every WBB program, is a money loser except for a very small handful. But I know the actual people/kind of people running the show at OU now -- and 8 and 20-something isn't going to be tolerated for more than another year, I'm betting.

And let me add to any who want to argue that the athletic department is separate from OU and runs on its own money. That's not how regents, the new president and the Oklahoma legislature look at this.

I can absolutely guarantee that is the gospel fact.
 
Sounds like we won't have any news until after the playoffs are over. I'm sure there are discussions in the works already, but usually it seems like we don't hear anything official until then. I'm hoping we get 1 or 2 additions to the roster as well as the new coaches. Fingers crossed!
 
It would be great news on both fronts. I’m sure we’ll hear something if her planned new hires get knocked out of the tournament.

If they aren’t coaching, there is a need to get it decided before our recruits start getting concerned and thinking of de-committing.


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Any news on who Sherri is bringing in? I’m hearing the 2020 prospects can start taking official visits this weekend, and I’m sure no knowing who will be coaching you for the next 4 years will put OU at a disadvantage.
 
It needs to be PDQ for hiring the assistants and signing some additional players.

30 percent of the roster is basically open as well as two coaching slots.

I think she has to make a decision within days and not weeks as I outlined on another thread.
 
+1, MAC. We will be at a disadvantage.

Another thing to consider, if her coaching search moves into June, then i believe that would be an indication of her not being able to find someone she thinks she wants/or can-live-with.

Or she's having trouble convincing someone to come because of the uncertainty of the situation (or maybe they get an offer, talk to the two departed coaches or other coaches around the country and decide they don't want to be apart of Sherri's staff).
 
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+1, MAC. We will be at a disadvantage.

Another thing to consider, if her coaching search moves into June, then i believe that would be an indication of her not being able to find someone she thinks she wants/or can-live-with.

Or she's having trouble convincing someone to come because of the uncertainty of the situation (or maybe they get an offer, talk to the two departed coaches or other coaches around the country and decide they don't want to be apart of Sherri's staff).
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Pam and Chad are extremely loyal to Sherri and that is not likely to have changed. They will only speak about Sherri in positive terms.
 
Getting fired, i.e. blamed for a program’s decline, when the head coach, the person who dictates every action you take or don’t, escapes any consequences for their actions usually would test even the strongest of loyalties.

They may never say anything publicly. However, privately is often a different thing — even from the most loyal of one-time allies.


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Oliver Hardy said:
Getting fired, i.e. blamed for a program’s decline, when the head coach, the person who dictates every action you take or don’t, escapes any consequences for their actions usually would test even the strongest of loyalties.

They may never say anything publicly. However, privately is often a different thing — even from the most loyal of one-time allies.


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Oliver Hardy said:
Getting fired, i.e. blamed for a program’s decline, when the head coach, the person who dictates every action you take or don’t, escapes any consequences for their actions usually would test even the strongest of loyalties.

They may never say anything publicly. However, privately is often a different thing — even from the most loyal of one-time allies.


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Agreed! However those things said in private need to remain private otherwise you will not remain privy to those private statements.
 
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