Current Events Thread

[steverocks35]

What do you mean by debunked?

Yes, it often does cost more to treat COVID patients, but it doesn't cost more to add one more word to the diagnosis.

It's been debunked that Covid-19 cases are inflated because of gaming the billing. I absolutely understand that hospitals game the billing and they charge insane prices. I remember my first job at a hospital being shocked to learn that the ER charged $25 for a band-aid haha.

But right now there has never been more scrutiny. You need some documentation if you're going to add that one more word to the diagnosis. I doubt any hospital would want to take the risk of getting hammered for Medicare fraud for the paltry 20% that congress has mandated.

As for the hospital where I work, not one word has been breathed in any meeting, email, or other communication about padding the statistics for monetary reasons or any other reason. I am involved in daily chief-of-staff, director and Covid-19 work-group meetings and I have never heard anyone mention it, not once.

I can't speak for every hospital but it's not the reason we have a large percentage of covid-19 patients at the moment.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-more-money-for-covid-cases/partly-false-claim-hospitals-get-compensated-15-more-when-they-admit-discharge-or-lose-a-patient-to-covid-19-new-york-city-hospitals-are-inflating-their-case-numbers-to-take-advantage-idUSKBN22I2KR

 

[Sooner04]

TIME had a big expose on this a couple of years ago. I read it during breaks between games at the Big 12 Tournament.

$100 for the medical gown. $100 for the box of kleenex on the shelf. Robbing people absolutely blind.

It was horrifying.

 

[steverocks35]

TIME had a big expose on this a couple of years ago. I read it during breaks between games at the Big 12 Tournament.

$100 for the medical gown. $100 for the box of kleenex on the shelf. Robbing people absolutely blind.

It was horrifying.

The reason they overcharge is to make up the amount of money they have to write off because of people who can't or won't pay. There is literally no other way for most hospitals to stay solvent.

It really is the dumbest, most expensive form of socialized medicine.

 

[Eielson]

As for the hospital where I work, not one word has been breathed in any meeting, email, or other communication about padding the statistics for monetary reasons or any other reason. I am involved in daily chief-of-staff, director and Covid-19 work-group meetings and I have never heard anyone mention it, not once.

It is almost unheard of for a hospital to not have anybody pestering physicians about the way they document things. There are entire positions, if not departments, that are devoted to that. Unless your job is in the billing department, or you write notes that the hospital bills off of, I would not expect you to be privy to these discussions.

I'm not saying that hospitals are haphazardly putting COVID on charts, and as I said in an above post, COVID has overall been bad for the profitablity of hospitals (mostly due to cancelled elective procedures). However...let's say you are admitted into the hospital with a chief complaint unrelated to COVID. Despite not having any classic COVID symptoms, you still get tested like every other patient that is admitted, and it just so happens to be positive. Despite the fact that it is either a false positive or an asymptomatic infection unrelated to the reason for admission...do you think there is ANY way that the hospital doesn't try to bill for COVID-19 pneumonia?

 

[steverocks35]

It is almost unheard of for a hospital to not have anybody pestering physicians about the way they document things. There are entire positions, if not departments, that are devoted to that. Unless your job is in the billing department, or you write notes that the hospital bills off of, I would not expect you to be privy to these discussions.

I'm not saying that hospitals are haphazardly putting COVID on charts, and as I said in an above post, COVID has overall been bad for the profitablity of hospitals (mostly due to cancelled elective procedures). However...let's say you are admitted into the hospital with a chief complaint unrelated to COVID. Despite not having any classic COVID symptoms, you still get tested like every other patient that is admitted, and it just so happens to be positive. Despite the fact that it is either a false positive or an asymptomatic infection unrelated to the reason for admission...do you think there is ANY way that the hospital doesn't try to bill for COVID-19 pneumonia?

Of course, I don't disagree with this at all. I know they want physicians to document as much as they can for maximum profitability. And I have zero doubt that if someone is diagnosed by lab test with Covid-19 that it will be documented and billed for (which means a 20% increase ONLY for Medicare patients or patients with no insurance). But that's a far cry from just flat out falsifying records and committing fraud. I also don't think it's a large number of patients. This is a total guess but I doubt that's it's more than 1%. Now, does that mean that there isn't a hospital somewhere attempting to commit Medicare fraud? There probably are a few out there but they better be extremely careful.

 

[WTSooner]

The reason they overcharge is to make up the amount of money they have to write off because of people who can't or won't pay. There is literally no other way for most hospitals to stay solvent.

It really is the dumbest, most expensive form of socialized medicine.

Well maybe hospitals should come up with a better way to do business. Like any other entity that struggles, adapt and change your practices. Maybe that means building smaller buildings. Maybe it means paying people less. Maybe it means being less wasteful of resources/supplies. I'm not a medical field expert, but I REALLY doubt they've done all they can to help this problem from their side.

 

[steverocks35]

Well maybe hospitals should come up with a better way to do business. Like any other entity that struggles, adapt and change your practices. Maybe that means building smaller buildings. Maybe it means paying people less. Maybe it means being less wasteful of resources/supplies. I'm not a medical field expert, but I REALLY doubt they've done all they can to help this problem from their side.

I don't know, maybe healthcare shouldn't be a for-profit enterprise. Reasonable people can disagree.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Well maybe hospitals should come up with a better way to do business. Like any other entity that struggles, adapt and change your practices. Maybe that means building smaller buildings. Maybe it means paying people less. Maybe it means being less wasteful of resources/supplies. I'm not a medical field expert, but I REALLY doubt they've done all they can to help this problem from their side.

Each time i wiz by Saint Francis, in Tulsa, I always wonder how that place gets by.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Antifa congregating in Portland and creating a human barricade. In the front of the human barricade is a lady in a wheel chair and a dog. Lovely people being lovely.

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1294865353697157121

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I'm ready for this sh!t to stop.
Send the military in

https://www.dailywire.com/news/port...transported-to-hospital-with-serious-injuries

 

[stormspencer]

Over the weekend, I did some reading on "The Great Reset" (you can also reference the 2030 Agenda). If you have a minute, it may be worth your while to look at an article or two. The World Economic Forum is one of the catalysts for this movement. And while they dress their motives up with benign and benevolent language, it should red flag you if you are in favor of civil liberties and private property rights.

It sounds fine and plausible on the surface, but the deeper you read into it, it is "New World Order" type of sh!t with "elites" pulling the strings to attempt to gain control of your livelihood. It certainly seems to be a movement towards a one-world governing body. This type of freedom-grab would have been laughed at 20 years ago, but now with all of the Marxist-friendly rhetoric that is being accommodated....who knows what society will look like in several years.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Fitting for our times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qqZup3Bg4

 

[sheepdogs1]

Another prime example of antifa being lovely and caring people in Portland.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htCLCXWM4pU

 

[sheepdogs1]

Instant karma served.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYnQAhYyTmY

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I’m still utterly confused about anti fascists being pro communist

 

[mict085]

I’m still utterly confused about anti fascists being pro communist

Because they’re not really anti-fascist. Just like BLM isn’t about black lives. They pick a name that’s politically correct so they initially gain support and credibility from people who believe them. As we can now see, they’re a hate group intent on destroying whatever they can. They hate America. They hate the nuclear family. They hate capitalism. They hate anyone that is more successful than they are. They hate the world because they have failed so badly at being a human.

 

[thebigabd]

Steve Bannon, former Trump campaign lead and top advisor was arrested this morning for defrauding campaign donors.

• Michael Flynn (Trumps National Security Advisor)..... arrested.
• Paula Manafort (Trumps campaign chairman).... arrested.
• Roger Stone (Trump's crooked friend and advisor).... arrested.
• Steve Bannon (Trumps Chief Strategist in White House, and Chief Executive of Trump campaign).... arrested for defrauding campaign donors.
• Michael Cohen (Trumps personal attorney)...... arrested.
• George Papadopoulous (Trump advisor)...... arrested.

Amazingly.... the guy who ran a fraudulent university, a fraudulent charity, and who is relatively well known to be a con-man (Donald Trump) has all these people around him getting arrested.

Weird. I guess Trump just has really bad luck. He is squeaky clean, does everything on the up and up, and these gosh darn bad characters around him keep getting arrested.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Steve Bannon, former Trump campaign lead and top advisor was arrested this morning for defrauding campaign donors.

• Michael Flynn (Trumps National Security Advisor)..... arrested.
• Paula Manafort (Trumps campaign chairman).... arrested.
• Roger Stone (Trump's crooked friend and advisor).... arrested.
• Steve Bannon (Trumps Chief Strategist in White House, and Chief Executive of Trump campaign).... arrested for defrauding campaign donors.
• Michael Cohen (Trumps personal attorney)...... arrested.
• George Papadopoulous (Trump advisor)...... arrested.

Amazingly.... the guy who ran a fraudulent university, a fraudulent charity, and who is relatively well known to be a con-man (Donald Trump) has all these people around him getting arrested.

Weird. I guess Trump just has really bad luck. He is squeaky clean, does everything on the up and up, and these gosh darn bad characters around him keep getting arrested.

You are better than this

 

[thebigabd]

You are better than this

Yea, I can imagine that if everyone around Obama was getting arrested during his tenure that Sean Hannity, mict, etc would be real nice about that. They wouldn't think Obama had anything to do with it.

 

[BCSooners]

You are better than this

As of yesterday a Republican led investigation showed that there was illegal information given to Manafort, Trump jr, & Kushner by Russia & Putin. So it wasn't a hoax like Trump claims. I don't understand how this isn't a big deal.