Denny Announces Moser Staying

[mict085]

I guess I just don't see his mistakes as being caused by having to do it all. How does that explain not seeing open WRs or making terrible throws when guys were open? Almost all the OU analysts, even the total homers, agree that the film showed a lot of times when the pocket was clean, the primary read was open, and he simply didn't throw it to him.

I’m not excusing that but we had no run game. No TEs. Only 1 real WR threat. Our entire offense was mateer. That takes a toll and makes everything harder on the QB. Yes he made bad reads and missed some throws. All of that needs to improve. He also had to look at high safeties every play because we had no run game, making it more difficult to get the ball to that one WR.

He’s never going to be an elite QB but he doesn’t have to be to make the offense good enough to win. He just has to eliminate the dumb plays and take what the defense is giving us. He will have more help at WR and TE and we will have a much better run game. If you don’t understand how that helps the QB, thats your problem.

 

[61sooner]

Mateer showed an arm just above a wishbone QB of the Switzer era. His only plus was he was better than Jackson Arnold for whatever that is worth.

 

[WTSooner]

Mateer showed an arm just above a wishbone QB of the Switzer era. His only plus was he was better than Jackson Arnold for whatever that is worth.

Stop.

2024 Offense (Arnold) - Ranked 95th in offensive efficiency (ESPN)
2025 Offense (Mateer) - Ranked 59th in offensive efficiency (ESPN)

Neither are good (enough) but that's a pretty healthy difference.

 

[aliasou]

His grip strength was affected all year long. You could see the ball sail out of his hand after the injury on any throw that required oomph. I dont care if they said he was 'healthy', he clearly wasnt.

 

[hoopsaustin]

His grip strength was affected all year long. You could see the ball sail out of his hand after the injury on any throw that required oomph. I dont care if they said he was 'healthy', he clearly wasnt.

Imo I think that's his mechanics, or lack thereof.. well see this year, unless a new slate of excuses get generated next year

 

[aliasou]

Imo I think that's his mechanics, or lack thereof.. well see this year, unless a new slate of excuses get generated next year

I dont think so. His mechanics arent great, but there was a noticable difference after the injury.

 

[WichitaSooner]

His grip strength was affected all year long. You could see the ball sail out of his hand after the injury on any throw that required oomph. I dont care if they said he was 'healthy', he clearly wasnt.

I still haven’t heard or seen anyone offer an explanation for him not seeing/throwing to wide open guys who were the first read.

And his mechanics are definitely an issue. I mean, unless you are an absolute freak, throwing sidearm while jumping (sometimes jumping backwards) in a clean pocket isn’t going to work, especially when you aren’t a tall QB.

 

[aliasou]

I still haven’t heard or seen anyone offer an explanation for him not seeing/throwing to wide open guys who were the first read.

And his mechanics are definitely an issue. I mean, unless you are an absolute freak, throwing sidearm while jumping (sometimes jumping backwards) in a clean pocket isn’t going to work, especially when you aren’t a tall QB.

All true, but i could see the nose of the ball rise on him which is even worse accuracey wise when throwing from the side arm angle, which made the ball sail on him.

 

[SunshinePumper]

I would be shocked if that were true this season.

Partly because I believe in Mateer.

Partly because it's a down year for QB's in the SEC.

Mateer will be top half for sure. I'd argue top 1/3 or top 1/4 aren't out of the question.

That guy is the most negative poster I’ve ever ****in seen. Mateer bottom half QB? Why anyone would believe his word like Gospel like some of you do on here is blasphemous

 

[SunshinePumper]

I still haven’t heard or seen anyone offer an explanation for him not seeing/throwing to wide open guys who were the first read.

And his mechanics are definitely an issue. I mean, unless you are an absolute freak, throwing sidearm while jumping (sometimes jumping backwards) in a clean pocket isn’t going to work, especially when you aren’t a tall QB.

Spoken like a true athlete that’s never had an injury and then played through it. Sit the **** down you middle school PE coach

 

[SunshinePumper]

Was at the gym the other day and they had the playoff game re-run on. That pick 6 he threw before half was one of the worst throws in OU history. Had a clean pocket and just throws it to a random bama guy standing there.

I’m there with ya. But there’s also two sides to the story. WR easily ran the wrong route or mixup. But this board I’ve been told is so smart and knows everything about high level football plays and concepts.

 

[SunshinePumper]

Fair points. And to be clear, I don't expect the defense to be bad, or even average. But if it takes even a small step back, it could make a big difference unless Mateer is a totally different player. We likely would have lost at least two more games last season if the defense was not quite as good as they were, and 8-4 isn't sniffing a playoff spot.

You’re a Ray of sunshine your wife and kids black and blue must love U. A Haiku for U.

 

[Boom Soon]

You’re a Ray of sunshine your wife and kids black and blue must love U. A Haiku for U.

Man. Sports makes people say weird stuff.

 

[mict085]

I still haven’t heard or seen anyone offer an explanation for him not seeing/throwing to wide open guys who were the first read.

And his mechanics are definitely an issue. I mean, unless you are an absolute freak, throwing sidearm while jumping (sometimes jumping backwards) in a clean pocket isn’t going to work, especially when you aren’t a tall QB.

This made me laugh. The sidearm jumping while trying to throw the ball was a real head scratcher. Like, what the hell is he doing? The practice reports say they’re working on footwork and mechanics. We will see if it takes, but yeah, he can’t be doing that.

We are also working on blocking scheme and technique to improve the run game. The coaches know what needs to be improved and they’re working on it.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I still haven’t heard or seen anyone offer an explanation for him not seeing/throwing to wide open guys who were the first read.

And his mechanics are definitely an issue. I mean, unless you are an absolute freak, throwing sidearm while jumping (sometimes jumping backwards) in a clean pocket isn’t going to work, especially when you aren’t a tall QB.

100% the #1 thing he needs to do is see the field better ..

I think the OC had plays dialed up all year long .. and the QB missed a bunch of them .. (which is why i don't get the OC hate) ..

 

[WTSooner]

That guy is the most negative poster I’ve ever ****in seen. Mateer bottom half QB? Why anyone would believe his word like Gospel like some of you do on here is blasphemous

Who takes his word as gospel? I argue with him all the time.

And even when a lot of the time I don't agree with his delivery, his message isn't always wrong. Especially as it relates to Moser and his time at OU.

 

[NickZepp]

As far as the basketball program goes. We need to get the resources right for whoever is next. I have little faith that Moser is a long term guy. Maybe he gets in the tournament next year and buys another year. I don't think we should extend him unless we have like a final four type run. So maybe he gets another year after that but if we have our resources to a point where the next coach can win right away and get whatever talent he needs that's way better than firing Moser now and being behind for whoever is next.

 

[WTSooner]

100% the #1 thing he needs to do is see the field better ..

I think the OC had plays dialed up all year long .. and the QB missed a bunch of them .. (which is why i don't get the OC hate) ..

I think this is REALLY hard to evaluate because none of us know (or are taking the time to break down) what his reads should be.

I'm guilty too. Cheering at a game in person. Seeing a WR streak open. But sometimes that is read 3 or 4. Sometimes there was pressure that maybe forced his eyes a different direction. I think back to the Michigan game. OUR defense. There were some plays that Michigan had WR's uncovered. Good throws would have likely resulted in big gains for Michigan, if not TD's. I was kind of mad at the time, but later realized some of that was by design. The OU defense was leaving guys "uncovered" in parts of the field they knew Underwood would not be able to deliver an accurate ball. I think some of that went on with OU. I think our play scheming was pretty simple at times, and I wonder if at least some of the time, good defenses were simply able to say "hey, we know this will be the 3rd or 4th read in this look, and we know we're going to get pressure, and maybe we know Mateer isn't super comfortable throwing the deep sideline route with his thumb, so we're going to roll coverage in a way that leaves that look open." That happens to varying degrees.

Again, I'm not saying that is what happened 100% of the time. But I bet that accounts for some of it. Nothing about Mateer's history suggests he can't read a defense, know who SHOULD be open, and progress through a few reads. So maybe SEC defenses did a great job of fooling him. Maybe he'll need to grow from that. Maybe the offensive scheme needs to evolve a little. It's more complex though than Mateer just not seeing or throwing to wide open guys. I think.

 

[WTSooner]

As far as the basketball program goes. We need to get the resources right for whoever is next. I have little faith that Moser is a long term guy. Maybe he gets in the tournament next year and buys another year. I don't think we should extend him unless we have like a final four type run. So maybe he gets another year after that but if we have our resources to a point where the next coach can win right away and get whatever talent he needs that's way better than firing Moser now and being behind for whoever is next.

Part of having the right resources is having the right coach. Having a coach that players want to play for. Having a coach that can attract talent. Denny seems to be skipping over that particular resource.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

How does that explain not seeing open WRs or making terrible throws when guys were open?

This is my concern. I'm fairly certain he can make the throws and will be working on limiting his mistakes this year. But the mental part and reading defenses and seeing open guys i'm concerned with.