Denny Announces Moser Staying

[SoonerBounce13]

maybe he did see the open guys but wasn't confident because of his injuries

 

[WichitaSooner]

Spoken like a true athlete that’s never had an injury and then played through it. Sit the **** down you middle school PE coach

Posted like a guy who still is trying to hype up your (alleged) college career. We get it. You were on the JV crew team at the local JUCO, till you left because you had a falling out with the coach since you were never actually chosen to participate in any of the competitions. All that practice time but no glory.

 

[TopherB560]

Part of having the right resources is having the right coach. Having a coach that players want to play for. Having a coach that can attract talent. Denny seems to be skipping over that particular resource.

Denny is not skipping over that. The money has to be there to get the right coach that attracts the talent to even come. They want proof the financial support is actually going to be there and resources aren't going to have to be fought for. Look at Syracuse, they lost out on the USF coach, who grew up a Syracuse fan fwiw, and he's deciding between staying at USF or going to Providence. It's why the Josh Schertz signed an extension with Saint Louis because there's not a better job out there to go to that has the resources.

 

[WTSooner]

Denny is not skipping over that. The money has to be there to get the right coach that attracts the talent to even come. They want proof the financial support is actually going to be there and resources aren't going to have to be fought for. Look at Syracuse, they lost out on the USF coach, who grew up a Syracuse fan fwiw, and he's deciding between staying at USF or going to Providence. It's why the Josh Schertz signed an extension with Saint Louis because there's not a better job out there to go to that has the resources.

Surely you don't believe that? That there is NO job available that has better resources than St. Louis?

 

[TopherB560]

Surely you don't believe that? That there is NO job available that has better resources than St. Louis?

So resources to compete at a level to where it's worth leaving for and not be stuck in the middle of the pack, I don't think there's one that is worth leaving for where he could run things back where he is now and knows he can win like he already is doing.

 

[cbertus6]

So resources to compete at a level to where it's worth leaving for and not be stuck in the middle of the pack, I don't think there's one that is worth leaving for where he could run things back where he is now and knows he can win like he already is doing.

Providence and Syracuse are both capable of producing resources that can win more than USF and St Louis. As is Kansas State (already filled) and a number of other programs that have or will have openings this offseason. I think USF and St Louis are at about where their ceilings are currently.

 

[TopherB560]

Providence and Syracuse are both capable of producing resources that can win more than USF and St Louis. As is Kansas State (already filled) and a number of other programs that have or will have openings this offseason. I think USF and St Louis are at about where their ceilings are currently.

Syracuse just had the job turned down by Hodgson because NIL isn't where it needs to be to compete in the ACC.

 

[SoonerDutch]

Syracuse just had the job turned down by Hodgson because NIL isn't where it needs to be to compete in the ACC.

Yeah, I see second-tier ACC jobs (basically outside of the likely BIG/SEC targets - UNC, UVA, Duke) as not a great intermediate term move for an up & coming coach especially if you can wait another cycle.

 

[cbertus6]

Syracuse just had the job turned down by Hodgson because NIL isn't where it needs to be to compete in the ACC.

I'm not saying it is a perfect job, but Syracuse does have more resources than South Florida - and a much higher ceiling. Hodgson likely believes he can hold out for a better job and why wouldn't he? He's only been at USF one year and probably doesn't feel like he needs to jump ship just yet.

 

[TopherB560]

I'm not saying it is a perfect job, but Syracuse does have more resources than South Florida - and a much higher ceiling. Hodgson likely believes he can hold out for a better job and why wouldn't he? He's only been at USF one year and probably doesn't feel like he needs to jump ship just yet.

To compete in the ACC though, Syracuse is a middle of the pack job now. The guy grew up in Buffalo, NY and a Syracuse fan and has family still up there. Turning down that job knowing those things, says a lot about the Syracuse job. These coaches aren't going to leave where they are at, where they are winning, to go somewhere with lofty expectations and not enough to compete for their own conference then get fired after 2 or 3 years.

 

[TINY]

I'm not saying it is a perfect job, but Syracuse does have more resources than South Florida - and a much higher ceiling. Hodgson likely believes he can hold out for a better job and why wouldn't he? He's only been at USF one year and probably doesn't feel like he needs to jump ship just yet.

The resource comment is relative to the conference. Of course cuse has more resources than usf. However, given the resources at each respective program, it is much easier to win at USF than cuse rn.

 

[CoachTalk]

I'm not saying it is a perfect job, but Syracuse does have more resources than South Florida - and a much higher ceiling. Hodgson likely believes he can hold out for a better job and why wouldn't he? He's only been at USF one year and probably doesn't feel like he needs to jump ship just yet.

Goodman jumped the gun on reporting supposedly. Trying to be the first.

 

[SoonerinNC]

I don't understand why he has lasted this long. Many of his players hit the portal after one year in the system. There has to be a reason for that. I think he is a decent defensive coach but his offense is to one on one and has too many players standing around watching the one on one action.

I also thought Capel was a poor coach. He couldn't control his players and blamed players for his own shortcomings. Kruger was a good coach but not a great one. I thought he failed to get the full benefit from Trae Young and allowed him to control the game too much. I will never forget when they made the NCAA tournament The team had a group hug while Young was standing by himself.

Tubbs gained advantage because he was among the first to make extensive use of JUCO players if not the first. Eventually he lost that edge because everyone began doing it.

Probably not a popular decision on my part but I think Sampson was the best coach. Bruce Drake was successful early on but the game passed him by. I had a class by him at OU and he said with his offense that he could beat anyone with small and quick players. Unfortunately teams like Kansas came in with bigger players who were just as quick as if not quicker than his small players.

Sampson was not popular with the fans because they didn't like his offense. But he was evolving into a better offensive system when he left for Indiana. He has proven at Houston he can still coach. He got a lot out of his talent.

 

[WaymanFan]

Tubbs gained advantage because he was among the first to make extensive use of JUCO players if not the first. Eventually he lost that edge because everyone began doing it.

That second sentence is the one disagreement I had with your post. Coach Tubbs never lost that edge with JUCOs and Coach Sampson built off what Tubbs started. The issue at the end of Tubbs career was that the academic standards changed at OU (after they hired Thomas Hill Sr) and a lot of those players were no longer eligible. Had the standards not changed, OU would have gone into the 1990-91 season as the #2 ranked school (behind only UNLV), but wound up playing in the NIT. It was the beginning of the end of the Billy Tubbs era.

 

[BoulderSooner]

That second sentence is the one disagreement I had with your post. Coach Tubbs never lost that edge with JUCOs and Coach Sampson built off what Tubbs started. The issue at the end of Tubbs career was that the academic standards changed at OU (after they hired Thomas Hill Sr) and a lot of those players were no longer eligible. Had the standards not changed, OU would have gone into the 1990-91 season as the #2 ranked school (behind only UNLV), but wound up playing in the NIT. It was the beginning of the end of the Billy Tubbs era.

i also think back to when OU finished second for Larry Johnson .. OU would have won it all with him

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

To compete in the ACC though, Syracuse is a middle of the pack job now. The guy grew up in Buffalo, NY and a Syracuse fan and has family still up there. Turning down that job knowing those things, says a lot about the Syracuse job. These coaches aren't going to leave where they are at, where they are winning, to go somewhere with lofty expectations and not enough to compete for their own conference then get fired after 2 or 3 years.

It's crazy for us to think that Providence is a better job than Syracuse, but it is right now in the new era. Providence doesn't have football and its NIL is better funded relative to the Big East than Syracuse is in the ACC. Rumor is that Hodgson is going to take Providence.

He's another coach we could have had last year had we fired Porter.

Legally paid players (NIL) changed everything.

 

[TopherB560]

It's crazy for us to think that Providence is a better job than Syracuse, but it is right now in the new era. Providence doesn't have football and its NIL is better funded relative to the Big East than Syracuse is in the ACC. Rumor is that Hodgson is going to take Providence.

He's another coach we could have had last year had we fired Porter.

Legally paid players (NIL) changed everything.

Yeah, I saw a USF insider just saying they expect him to take the Providence job. Just better resources for the conference they play in.

 

[WTSooner]

The resource comment is relative to the conference. Of course cuse has more resources than usf. However, given the resources at each respective program, it is much easier to win at USF than cuse rn.

Is it? At USF you have to win the conference. At Cuse it's similar to OU, win 20 games and finish within a game or so of .500 in the conference. Cuse doesn't have the resources to do that?