Development during year..OU v osu

[SoonerBounce13]

Along those lines: if OSU had a better conference season than OU, they would have a better conference record than OU.

they are ranked ahead of us in the conference tournament. They have an identical conference record with better wins. THey defintely had a better conference season than we did. I think if you combine our non conference and their conference performance, we would be a seed or two better in the ncaa tourney. But if they had their non conference and our conference results, they still wouldn't be in.

And another: if OSU had a better overall season than OU, they wouldn't be the team currently on the outside of the NCAA tourney looking in.

I don't think i said they had a better overall season. We clearly did. However, they did more with less. So subjectively, one could probably say that they had a more successful season than OU.

And one more: if the committee only looked at a team's best few wins (which you seem to do), our resume would still match theirs because of our win at Wichita State.

I never claimed they only look at the team's best wins. But it is a huge part of it.

 

[ellissooner]

Except the committee no longer focuses on the last month anymore. They view the whole season as even.

And it seems like you don't understand the process if you think Ok State should be in over OU via those protocols

I understand that OU has an impressive non-conference resume. OSU has a better conference resume beating Kansas twice, West Virginia, and Texas. Now OSU was swept by Kansas St. and Baylor and OU split with them. Bottom line OSU has to win Bedlam to get in the tournament while OU might get in with a loss but another 15+ loss and OU doesn't deserve to get in.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I understand that OU has an impressive non-conference resume. OSU has a better conference resume beating Kansas twice, West Virginia, and Texas. Now OSU was swept by Kansas St. and Baylor and OU split with them. Bottom line OSU has to win Bedlam to get in the tournament while OU might get in with a loss but another 15+ loss and OU doesn't deserve to get in.

OU is already a lock osu likely needs 2 more wins

 

[SoonerWarVet]

Who did they play in non-con? Seems like that may be a reason for their horrendous RPI.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Who did they play in non-con? Seems like that may be a reason for their horrendous RPI.

They acutally played a decent non conference...they just lost most of the tough games
A&M, Pittsburgh, WSU, Florida state, tulsa

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

They acutally played a decent non conference...they just lost most of the tough games

A&M, Pittsburgh, WSU, Florida state, tulsa

How many of those is most?


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[WichitaSooner]

if ifs and buts were cherries and nuts....

I guess the other issue I have with this premise is that it simply isn't true. You are suggesting that OSU was better against the top of the league, but they weren't. Against the top half of the conference, they were 4-6. OU was 5-5. You arbitrarily cut it off with KU, Tech, and West Virginia, but left off K-State and TCU. In any event, the great thing about the Big 12 is that it is a double round robin, so you don't have to pick and choose which games to look at. Everyone plays the exact same schedule, so the overall conference record is what matters.

 

[sheepdogs1]

They acutally played a decent non conference...they just lost most of the tough games
A&M, Pittsburgh, WSU, Florida state, tulsa

Pitt had 18 opportunities to win a conference game and failed on each account. You must have them confused with some other team.

 

[Eielson]

Pitt had 18 opportunities to win a conference game and failed on each account. You must have them confused with some other team.

They were pretty good before the mighty TCU basketball juggernaut took their coach.

 

[vbdad]

Boynton did a great job with very little talent. They have toughness from Soloman when he can stay in the game. Smith hasn't missed since he hit those big shots against us. McGriff has also given them a big boost with his play and toughness.

They defend fairly well on the outside with Waters, Carroll, Shine and Smith all having good size on the perimeter.

It will probably be a battle in KC. We need to hit some shots against them.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I guess the other issue I have with this premise is that it simply isn't true. You are suggesting that OSU was better against the top of the league, but they weren't. Against the top half of the conference, they were 4-6. OU was 5-5. You arbitrarily cut it off with KU, Tech, and West Virginia, but left off K-State and TCU. In any event, the great thing about the Big 12 is that it is a double round robin, so you don't have to pick and choose which games to look at. Everyone plays the exact same schedule, so the overall conference record is what matters.

I left off TCU and Kstate b/c imo they are a different tier than the top three.
And I wouldn't call half of the league the top.