Expect news on Mizzou and SEC/Big 12 any minute

[Sawyer]

Curators wrapping up a meeting now and a press conference immediately follows. No clue what to expect, but I do know MU did not hear what they wanted to at recent Big 12 meetings.

 

[Tony]

Did anything happen yet?

 

[Sawyer]

Nope. Still in the meeting. Not sure what to make of how long this is taking. If it was a clear-cut decision either way, you'd think the meeting would be brief. There has to be some last-minute persuasion or PR planning going on... which could mean either SEC or Big 12.

 

[Tony]

So this is like the definitive decision-making meeting? Not just authorizing someone to look at other conferences or whatever?

 

[Sawyer]

Don't even know that. Considering the length, I think it's more than that. All that's certain right now, though, is that it involves athletics. Many assumed that would be the outcome of tonight's meeting and things would progress similarly to how they did with OU (give authority to one guy, look around, come back) or A&M (same, but leave).

At this point I expect something more definitive, but that's entirely speculative at this point.

 

[Sawyer]

Unanimous decision to give Deaton authority to explore options (doesn't necessarily mean much; OU did the same thing).

Deaton resigns position as chairman of Big 12 board of directors (IMO a much more significant indicator that this is serious).

 

[okcsooner83]

Looks like mizzou won't be in the big 12 next year. Don't see how the big 12 replaces mizzou, nebraska, colorado, and aTm with teams such as tcu, byu.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm interested in seeing what the Big 12 does if/when MU leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if more SEC/PAC rumors start swirling (even Big 10).

The Big East already needs to expand. The Big 12 probably does, as well. Not sure if things can stabilize without someone taking more hits.

 

[Big Old Booger]

I'm interested in seeing what the Big 12 does if/when MU leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if more SEC/PAC rumors start swirling (even Big 10).

The Big East already needs to expand. The Big 12 probably does, as well. Not sure if things can stabilize without someone taking more hits.

The Big 12 will be fine without Mizzou. I will miss them, but the conference with OU, Texas, OSU, Tech, and KU in basketball will still be very good.

KC is a KU market anyway, so really the only market we are losing is St. Louis, which sucks. But, Mizzou's football program will be non-existent in 5 years if they go to the SEC.

I can't figure out why Mizzou fans want to move to the SEC. I can understand your frustration with the Big 12, but moving to the SEC is football program suicide. If you can't win the Big 12, you won't even compete in the SEC.

Good luck...you are gonna need it.

 

[WTSooner]

If you can't win the Big 12, you won't even compete in the SEC.

Uh oh. Watch out. Certain posters are going to show up, cherry pick some mostly irrelevant data, and tell you how wrong you are. They'll point to a couple of decent seasons by Mizzou as proof positive.

Just warning you. :ez-roll:

 

[Sawyer]

I agree the Big 12 will continue, if they can find stability. It won't ever be what it was, though.

Disagree with the other stuff. KC isn't a ku city. There may be a greater percentage of ku fans than MU fans, but it's a pretty even split. Also disagree MU is committing football suicide. If MU leaves, the likely division will be Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, A&M, Ole Miss, Mississippi State and Mizzou. Mizzou has been better than A&M for several years and is no worse than Arkansas (beat them handily in 2007). MU is a level below the top two and definitely better than the two Mississippi teams. I think MU settles into the second tier of SEC teams with Ark, A&M, SC, UT and UGA, finishing between third and sixth most years... Which is pretty much where we are now in the Big 12.

 

[thebigabd]

I hope K-State beats the living hell out of Mizzou this weekend. How hilarious would that be? Out of nowhere K-State would be 5-0 and around the top 15, lol.

In 4 games, their QB has 529 yards rushing and 481 yards passing. 10 touchdowns and 2 turnovers.

Great to see Bill Snyder bringing that program out of the depths again. Of course, I don't really think K-State is very good, but nobody expected them to win at Miami and against Baylor. Hopefully they can beat Mizzou this weekend.

 

[TheGimper]

It makes sense. Mizzou wants to give up on sports and academics.

 

[bocabull]

I agree the Big 12 will continue, if they can find stability. It won't ever be what it was, though.

Disagree with the other stuff. KC isn't a ku city. There may be a greater percentage of ku fans than MU fans, but it's a pretty even split. Also disagree MU is committing football suicide. If MU leaves, the likely division will be Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, A&M, Ole Miss, Mississippi State and Mizzou. Mizzou has been better than A&M for several years and is no worse than Arkansas (beat them handily in 2007). MU is a level below the top two and definitely better than the two Mississippi teams. I think MU settles into the second tier of SEC teams with Ark, A&M, SC, UT and UGA, finishing between third and sixth most years... Which is pretty much where we are now in the Big 12.

LOL @ this clown. The Big XII will be exactly what it was. OU and Texas will dominate football and Kansas will dominate basketball.

As for you being equal to Tennessee and Georgia that is hilarious. THey are rock solid top 15 programs and Missouri is not even top 30. You aren't better than Ole Miss either. If Missouri heads to the SEC you will be the 10th program out of 14, only better than Vandy, Kentucky, Mississippi St and South Carolina.

Anyway. Please leave. Nobody cares.

 

[Sawyer]

In 4 games, their QB has 529 yards rushing and 481 yards passing. 10 touchdowns and 2 turnovers.

And Mizzou is the only school in the country averaging 250+ per game both passing and rushing.

Also:
Klein - 481 passing, 423 rushing, 10 total touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Franklin - 985 passing, 260 rushing, 11 total touchdowns, 1 interception

It makes sense. Mizzou wants to give up on sports and academics.

Big 12 academics < SEC academics with MU and A&M switching conferences. The Big 12 with Colorado, Nebraska, A&M and Mizzou was a good academic conference with some at the bottom contributing little (TT, OSU). Those were arguably the four best schools outside of UT, though. It's really nothing special at all anymore.

 

[Sawyer]

LOL @ this clown. The Big XII will be exactly what it was. OU and Texas will dominate football and Kansas will dominate basketball.

As for you being equal to Tennessee and Georgia that is hilarious. THey are rock solid top 15 programs and Missouri is not even top 30. You aren't better than Ole Miss either. If Missouri heads to the SEC you will be the 10th program out of 14, only better than Vandy, Kentucky, Mississippi St and South Carolina.

Anyway. Please leave. Nobody cares.

The Big 12 was for many years the premiere athletics conference. Its not anymore. It doesn't lose anything at the top in either major sport, but USC's BCs games and UCLA's final fours didn't make the PAC 10 elite. If the rest doesn't matter to you, that's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But the conference has changed considerably and is without question weaker now than it was two years ago.

What teams did dating back to the 30s is irrelevant. What matters is now. MU is as good as or better than multiple mid-level SEC teams now and has proven it on the field.

Plenty of people have read and responded to my threads, you included. So blow me.

 

[sybarite]

I wonder how many nails must be driven into the coffin before Boren realizes that no conference containing Texas is stable.

Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska, and Oklahoma were affiliated in the same conference, with a couple of lapses, from 1907 to 2010, over a hundred years. Colorado and OSU came along in 48 and 58. Now, with Texas in the conference, Colorado, Nebraska, and Missouri, three of the Big Seven, are gone or are leaving. Three out of seven?

 

[TheGimper]

But the conference has changed considerably and is without question weaker now than it was two years ago.

Wait, so ESPN has had The Big 12 ranked as the #1 Football conference for weeks now... so you're saying two years ago we were the greatest conference in the history of collegiate athletics and such a feat will never be matched by any conference ever? I'm okay with just being #1 right now.

 

[sybarite]

Wait, so ESPN has had The Big 12 ranked as the #1 Football conference for weeks now... so you're saying two years ago we were the greatest conference in the history of collegiate athletics and such a feat will never be matched by any conference ever? I'm okay with just being #1 right now.

What about tomorrow?

There is a simple fact. When so many schools are looking to leave the Big Twelve, either they know something, or there are some very stupid people at these schools. Let's see. Those schools have been affiliated with OU for over a hundred years.

Everyone seems to have jumped ship, thrown a life preserver in the water, or begun to lower the lifeboats. Big Twelve schools have flirted with more conferences than Zsa Zsa has husbands.

That's some future you are defending.

 

[stoops4pres]

I hope K-State beats the living hell out of Mizzou this weekend. How hilarious would that be? Out of nowhere K-State would be 5-0 and around the top 15, lol.

In 4 games, their QB has 529 yards rushing and 481 yards passing. 10 touchdowns and 2 turnovers.

Great to see Bill Snyder bringing that program out of the depths again. Of course, I don't really think K-State is very good, but nobody expected them to win at Miami and against Baylor. Hopefully they can beat Mizzou this weekend.

Agreed about K-State. I think they're one program that could go on a huge slump the rest of the season (especially since the schedule gets tougher) just as much as they've been on a roll.

I don't think they'll beat Missouri, but then again I didn't think they'd defeat Baylor, either.