Fire Porter Moser

[Boom Soon]

You seem more interested in Moser suffering than anything. I can’t stand him but if firing him sooner rather than later stops the bleeding, I’m all for it.

If someone is a Moser fan then they should want him to be fired asap too. Give him a chance to get a fresh start somehwere else. Take him out of his misery lol. He can’t be enjoying this.

 

[Soonerguy06]

Yeah two seasons ago we definitely had talent and experience and just did not execute on account of crap coaching. But I do think that team quit on him before the season was over. As optimistic as I was a month ago about this team's chances of being competitive, I just don't even see 8 SEC wins in them, 6 at this point would be surprising.

 

[sooner333]

Off topic but related to coaching. I have read some rumors that EMS came to Allen Fieldhouse for Bill Self today.

 

[soonertrash77]

I have a question for this board. Do you think last year's team would beat this year's team? If you ask me this question before the season starts I would say this year's team would blow last year's team out of the water but now I'm not so sure. Right now I'm leaning towards last year's team being the better team, definitely towards the beginning of the season anyway. All of Moser's teams end up sucking in the second half of the season which is the most important part, lmao. At this point all you can do is just shake your head and chuckle.


I think we could bring in pretty much anyone and they would do the same thing PM is doing now, if not better after a season adjustment or so.... I don't think it's a big loss if we cut ties with him

Losers teams suck as the year goes on cause they are in conference play and no longer get St Marys school of the blind Sisters and their KenPom rating of 354

 

[soonertrash77]

Not to mention, if we fire him midseason, we're definitely paying the buy out.

If you let the season play out, he might be willing and able to find another job and thus we wouldn't have to pay it.

You’re kidding right?? There is NO coach zip zero zilch coach in America that will give the firing school a break in paying a buy out. Just fire the loser now

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

Off topic but related to coaching. I have read some rumors that EMS came to Allen Fieldhouse for Bill Self today.

Yes. I read where he was taken in for tests and didn't make the team's road trip to Boulder.

 

[Eielson]

Wildly? Lolol. Absent the 2 seasons how did he do (i know, I know, you don't get to just do that, look at Kruger taking out his final 4. Blah blah blah). Bottom line is hes a 55% winning coach.. about to be 54% after this year. Thats pooptrash

He vaulted Loyola into a completely different tier as a program. There is not a person on that campus that wasn't thankful for his time there.

 

[hoopsaustin]

You’re kidding right?? There is NO coach zip zero zilch coach in America that will give the firing school a break in paying a buy out. Just fire the loser now

You clearly don't know what you're talking about

 

[hoopsaustin]

He vaulted Loyola into a completely different tier as a program. There is not a person on that campus that wasn't thankful for his time there.

For 2 seasons. And yes it is still worth it for them.. but otherwise he was a bum and loyola is back to being a cellar dweller, they arent vaulted any where

 

[soonertrash77]

You clearly don't know what you're talking about

Know as much as you do

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Good players can make a coach look great from a birds eye view.
That is what happened with Moser at Loyola for a couple of seasons.
That is what happened with Jeff Capel. There are plenty of examples.

 

[WTSooner]

His 10 year stay at Loyola was wildly successful. Most successful tenure in school history without question.

He was under .500 in his conference each of the first 6 seasons.

His conference records are the main reason I've never been a fan. OOC games, you can schedule W's. Conference games are against your peers and Moser has pretty much always sucked there.

22-50 in conference at Illinois State.
89-89 in conference at Loyola.
26-49 in conference (up to date) at OU.

That is AWFUL. No "good coach" has ever had numbers like that. EVER.

His entire tenure at Loyola was not good. His last four seasons were. But when you look at pretty much everything outside of those four seasons (and it's really just two of those four), he's not only not a good coach, he's been a pretty bad coach.

 

[WTSooner]

You’re kidding right?? There is NO coach zip zero zilch coach in America that will give the firing school a break in paying a buy out. Just fire the loser now

It happens every season. For a variety of reasons. So yes, it's possible.

But not if he's fired midseason.

 

[WTSooner]

He vaulted Loyola into a completely different tier as a program. There is not a person on that campus that wasn't thankful for his time there.

Different tier from where they were when he took over? I mean, I guess so, for a short period of time.

Different tier than they've ever been? No, not really. They actually had a good program back in the 60's. They even made the Championship Game, further than Moser took his best team. So Moser isn't even their best coach.

 

[OhioBornSoonerBred]

For the next coach, I’m hoping we can find someone who has out coached his peers. In other words, someone who has a very good conference record and an occasional upset. I have no problem going to the mid major level for a coach as long as they have that. If you can’t consistently beat teams at your level, you should NOT be in the running. This all seems straight forward, but hindsight has shown this was overlooked at the time we hired Moser and I would like to see us not make that same mistake again.

I know there's lots of games left and as of now Moser is the coach, but just to throw a name out there...

He's already making pretty good money where he's at I believe, but Josh Schertz at Saint Louis.

Won a ton at the DII level, sustained success. Took over an Indiana State program that was struggling/average to their standards, built into a winner quickly. Hired away by a Saint Louis program that was below their standards and immediately had them in the NIT last year and is 17-1 this season and in the top 25 as of this week.

There will be names thrown around, but I tend to like the ones that clearly build winners (a la Cignetti in football). Moser was OK at Little Rock, fired from Illinois State, and although he was "good" at Loyola, he more flashed greatness with otherwise above-average results, including mixed between the two flashes of greatness. Here at OU we've just had average (generally below OU standards) with no flashes to be seen.

 

[Eielson]

His entire tenure at Loyola was not good. His last four seasons were. But when you look at pretty much everything outside of those four seasons (and it's really just two of those four), he's not only not a good coach, he's been a pretty bad coach.

I get it when you want to exclude one or two wildly successful years based on a generational talent like Blake Griffin, but excluding a four year stretch where they finished first or second in conference each year based on a roster that didn't have a single player get drafted is beyond silly.

 

[WichitaSooner]

It's wild that there are still people suggesting Moser has been a good coach because of a short run of success in a TERRIBLE league. By the time he had his glorious run of first and second place finishes in the Valley, Creighton and WSU had left the conference. WSU left in large part because the league was absolute trash. And yet before they left, Moser had finished 10th, 6th, 8th, and 5th. Mind you, Creighton wasn't in the league for any of those years. The Valley was once a very solid league. It was trash during Moser's time there.

 

[Eielson]

Different tier from where they were when he took over? I mean, I guess so, for a short period of time.

Different tier than they've ever been? No, not really. They actually had a good program back in the 60's. They even made the Championship Game, further than Moser took his best team. So Moser isn't even their best coach.

Holy hell. They hadn't been to an NCAA tourney in almost 30 years when he took over, and had been to exactly one from 1968-2011.

But yeah, he was probably just riding the wave of success from the 1960s from a coach that had a losing record in his final 5 seasons.

 

[daqman]

bottom line is he sucks at ou. doesn't matter what he did anywhere else.
let's hope in 90 days he's no longer the coach in norman.

 

[The_Banker]

bottom line is he sucks at ou. doesn't matter what he did anywhere else.
let's hope in 90 days he's no longer the coach in norman.

If they lose tonight and he's the coach in Norman come Thursday, it tells you everything you already knew about the Oklahoma basketball program.