at this point I'm just embarrassed for our men's program. i hope they still have some pride and continue to play hard and grind out some wins, but it'll be hard for them not to be disheartened by looking at their standing in the conference, and the overall 'mood' about the current state of the program. I mean, i have a friend who's brother is a student at OU and he's said him and his friends are all very aware that the men's team is a 'joke' which is sad, because it didn't used to be when i went there. Although that was when Sampson was still around.