If our bball program is really the sisters of the poor jv program rn then it makes sense why the JoeC would wait until the ill advised extension runs out. The new guy probably wants an offseason to fire him instead of landing and immediately yeeting Moser off the cliff.
Fire Porter Moser
- Thread starter thebigabd
- Start date
TopherB560
Well-known member
- Joined
- Feb 11, 2024
- Messages
- 847
- Reaction score
- 1,788
It came down to Jordan Ott and Johnnie Bryant. He was a candidate but came down to them two.
He could go the college route to being a head coach.
Original Dave Bliss was good at OU but Tubbs had to start all over. Then there was that Baylor stuff which always made me very happy he didn’t stick around OU.
You are correct. Dave Bliss left almost nothing for Billy Tubbs to build around. He left him a solid senior (Ray Whitley), one young player to build around (Chucky Barnett), and another young player to help them compete (Bo Overton). With Whitley having to redshirt due to injury, the 1980-81 OU team was easily the least talented roster in the past 55-60 years. The reason Billy didn't have much was because Bliss stopped recruiting - he wanted to get the heck out of Norman. I think NMSooner80 can provide more details on the WHY part, but guessing it had a lot to do with the fan base and administration's perceived lack of commitment. The thing is, they did TRY to get John Thompson away from Georgetown, so that would indicate there was someone in the athletic department who wanted to win.
In mict085's defense, I think he was referring to the fact that Bliss did take OU to the highest level of any coach after Bruce Drake. The 1979 NCAA Tournament appearance was their first since 1947. Bliss certainly gets credit for perhaps Billy thinking he can win at OU...just like Kelvin said he took the OU job because Billy made it a good job.
Speaking of John Thompson, there was a classic line from Billy Tubbs a few of you may not have heard. When asked: "Does it bother you that you were not OU's first choice?" Billy's reply: "No. I wasn't my wife's first choice either."
Sorry, back on topic. Fire Moser!
WichitaSooner
Well-known member
- Joined
- Feb 17, 2015
- Messages
- 11,635
- Reaction score
- 8,639
His brother is 18 months older and is a junior.
SunshinePumper
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jan 16, 2025
- Messages
- 593
- Reaction score
- 803
I think there’s a third one so technically he may be right while also thinking of Jeremy Fears
WichitaSooner
Well-known member
- Joined
- Feb 17, 2015
- Messages
- 11,635
- Reaction score
- 8,639
They need to update his record. I think he is now 86-71 and 28-55. Just staggering how bad that is. He schedules about 6-7 games per season that are guaranteed wins. Take away those games, and he is somewhere in the vicinity of 51-71 or 56-71.
The_Banker
Well-known member
- Joined
- Mar 20, 2024
- Messages
- 479
- Reaction score
- 1,121
Looks like Hodgson will be at the top of Syracuse list.
AnotherSoonerInTX
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2009
- Messages
- 772
- Reaction score
- 1,303
He's from upstate New York. He was with Nate Oats at both Buffalo and Alabama before becoming a head coach.
Syracuse is not what it once was.
Easily a guy we could've had from the "B-tier" last year who is once again proving to be a good option. Would not be upset if OU made a run at Hodgson
cowboysooner
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2008
- Messages
- 1,700
- Reaction score
- 678
Waymon is right. Bliss left because he hadn't signed anyone and everyone that played for him had graduated. Billy had to start over. Not sure why he left. We paid less than just about anybody for a basketball coach. I know that is why Billy left to go to TCU. They more than doubled his salary. Maybe Bliss left for that reason, I don't know.
Maybe you remember Waymon, but didn't billy just have 7 scholarship players eligible to play that first year. It was something like that. He had a couple transfers in that had to sit out, including David Little, but I think that is about it. I went to every home game Billy's first year and may did we have an empty gym in those days. Then, Billy turned it around and what a run. Thanks billy and Waymon Tisdale (my favorite athlete of all time).
Maybe you remember Waymon, but didn't billy just have 7 scholarship players eligible to play that first year. It was something like that. He had a couple transfers in that had to sit out, including David Little, but I think that is about it. I went to every home game Billy's first year and may did we have an empty gym in those days. Then, Billy turned it around and what a run. Thanks billy and Waymon Tisdale (my favorite athlete of all time).
Sooner Season
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 27, 2009
- Messages
- 466
- Reaction score
- 299
I think one of those transfers was Charles "Big Time" Jones, a big man who was only big in stature but he was a loveable Sooner. Overslept on a road trip and I think missed either the team bus or the flight and was then know as "Bed Time" Jones!!
I remember when Billy got the job they asked about his offensive system and he said this year (his first) we are going to run a run and shoot offense but eventually we hope to run and score!! Hahaha, Billy was a treasure for sure.
cowboysooner
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2008
- Messages
- 1,700
- Reaction score
- 678
I think you are right on Jones. If I remember correct, he lost a jillion pounds by his second year and actually gave us a little something. Man was he enormous the first time I saw him. David Little was terrific as a wing shooter Billy's second year. David never saw a shot he didn't like.
Billy was absolutely a treasure. My favorite OU coach (for too many reasons to type).
Billy was absolutely a treasure. My favorite OU coach (for too many reasons to type).
Sooner04
Well-known member
- Joined
- May 15, 2009
- Messages
- 2,590
- Reaction score
- 694
1. This is from memory. The guy who told me this story passed away two years ago. The Sooners were heading to Hawaii for the Diamondhead Classic (something like that. Same tournament we won Buddy's senior year) and had a layover at LAX. Big Time wanders off and then falls asleep somewhere in the terminal. OUr team loads onto the plane and departs without doing any kind of inventory. Big Time wakes up and is dismayed to learn the crew is somewhere over the Pacific. He ends up catching a ride with Dean Smith, Michael Jordan and the 82-83 Tarheels, who beat us in the semifinals. Jones is from Mexia, Texas, the same hometown as Anna Nicole Smith (RIP).I think one of those transfers was Charles "Big Time" Jones, a big man who was only big in stature but he was a loveable Sooner. Overslept on a road trip and I think missed either the team bus or the flight and was then know as "Bed Time" Jones!!
I remember when Billy got the job they asked about his offensive system and he said this year (his first) we are going to run a run and shoot offense but eventually we hope to run and score!! Hahaha, Billy was a treasure for sure.
2. I remember the quote being something like "Our plan this season is to run and shoot. Teams better get their licks in now because next year we're going to run and SCORE!"
My old man has spoken many times of how awesome it was to watch weekly coaches' shows from both Barry Switzer and Billy Tubbs. Must See TV !!
Similar threads
