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Let’s just say the following hypothetical happens:
We get in the tourney as a 10 seed. We somehow get a good draw, and win 2 games to get to the sweet 16. How do you view this season?
 
Successful failure?

I think that’s the best case possible. It would be a hell of a roller coaster ride. I expect us to get in and get whooped in the first game. If we win 1 or 2, that’d be a big success. I don’t think you would draw this season up as a blueprint for success. It’s been a little fun, a little maddening, and downright awful. Any other win at this point is gravy.
 
As a fan, it would be exciting to see the team survive the first weekend. However, short of
a Final 4 run, this season will leave a bad taste. Not because of the late-season collapse, but how the team played in the final half of the season. So a sweet 16 run would still feel like fool's gold, but the way this team is playing, I take any gold I can find
 
I know at the end of the day, the tourney results are probably what matters most, but I prefer to look at the season as a whole, since a team can get lucky/hot and make a decent showing in the tourney.

At this point, short of OU making an Elite 8 or FF type run, I'd probably consider it a disappointment. In large part b/c I don't feel like the program is poised to get better in future years. I feel like this was a lost year in a lot of ways as far as building our program.
 
I know at the end of the day, the tourney results are probably what matters most, but I prefer to look at the season as a whole, since a team can get lucky/hot and make a decent showing in the tourney.

At this point, short of OU making an Elite 8 or FF type run, I'd probably consider it a disappointment. In large part b/c I don't feel like the program is poised to get better in future years. I feel like this was a lost year in a lot of ways as far as building our program.

Many good points there. I do remember two rather frustrating seasons based on expectations which were salvaged by making the Sweet 16 - 1987 and 1999. But like you said, there doesn't seem to be a bright light with this program in the near future.
 
This team won 11 games a year ago and some of you wouldn't be happy unless we made the Elite 8 or Final Four? Seriously? I don't care how well they started out, this team hasn't played defense all year. How exactly did you expect them to make it that far?
 
If you get to hang a Sweet 16 banner in the gym, that's a success... no question about it.
 
Personally, if we win a game in the tournament that'd be a success. Going into this season, peak was 7 seed, low was missing the tournament. Ultimately, we will make the tournament as a 9-11 seed, so we hit exactly what I expected. I didn't expect to win a game in the tournament, so if we did, that would be a success, as they'd exceed expectations.

Those saying you wouldn't be happy with a sweet 16 need to reexamine your goals, because I can almost guarantee you that none of you said this before the season began. If you go back before the season started and said "if we made the sweet 16, would you be happy?" every single one of you would say "YES!"
 
1999 NCAA tourney run saved Sampson’s job and is thought as a success so if this OU team gets in and wins two games how is this season not viewed the same?
 
NCAA tournament success absolves just about everything. Trae goes down as a transcendent player. Lon is off the hot seat. Doesn't quite fix our recruiting problems, but it may help us keep Harmon.
 
1999 NCAA tourney run saved Sampson’s job and is thought as a success so if this OU team gets in and wins two games how is this season not viewed the same?

Expectations? And just an overall feel of the program and how the team played the entire season?
 
1999 NCAA tourney run saved Sampson’s job and is thought as a success so if this OU team gets in and wins two games how is this season not viewed the same?

OU was literally the last team in the Dance (only at-large #13 seed) in 1999. If OU does not make the Dance (or loses to #4 seed Arizona), there was a 0% chance Kelvin Sampson was going to be fired. ZERO. Even though Ryan Humphrey bolted, they had both senior Eduardo Najera and Kelvin's signature guard recruit coming in - Hollis Price. He was BUILDING the program slowly, but Hollis was the signature recruit for Kelvin's best teams.
 
OU was literally the last team in the Dance (only at-large #13 seed) in 1999. If OU does not make the Dance (or loses to #4 seed Arizona), there was a 0% chance Kelvin Sampson was going to be fired. ZERO. Even though Ryan Humphrey bolted, they had both senior Eduardo Najera and Kelvin's signature guard recruit coming in - Hollis Price. He was BUILDING the program slowly, but Hollis was the signature recruit for Kelvin's best teams.

Well, this isn’t something I made up but from the mouths of a couple of OU BMDs that actually care about hoops. One was an ex-OU hoops player that played under Drake.

Now, could they have been presumptuous, absolutely. But, it’s what they said.
 
That ‘99 team underachieved until the NCAA tourney.

They tied for 2nd in the Big 12 that year. I'd hardly call that underachieving.

That team wasn't super talented, or super deep. They basically mirrored the two seasons before, except, as you noted, they actually won their NCAA Tourney game(s) in 1999.
 
If we knock off Duke to go to the Sweet 16, all is DEFINITELY forgiven.
 
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