SoonerNorm
Super Moderator
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2008
- Messages
- 19,033
- Reaction score
- 1
You can forget the rumors that Geno is going to Ohio St...he just signed a 5 year contract extension at UCONN.
Geno
- Thread starter SoonerNorm
- Start date
MsProudSooner
Well-known member
- Joined
- Nov 5, 2008
- Messages
- 10,796
- Reaction score
- 177
I hadn't seen those rumors, but I wouldn't have believed them if I had.
SoonerNorm
Super Moderator
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2008
- Messages
- 19,033
- Reaction score
- 1
SoonerNorm
Super Moderator
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2008
- Messages
- 19,033
- Reaction score
- 1
Whether you like either of these coaches or not, this is worth watching:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9072731
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9072731
Sooner Cal
New member
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2010
- Messages
- 216
- Reaction score
- 0
Geno doesn't have the guts to leave UCONN to compete against men coaches in the men's game. His is the dominant program in women's ball, making recruiting a lot easier. It will eventually even out as it has for Dorrance at UNC women's soccer, but for now he gets pretty much any player he wants.
That's like saying Coach K at Duke doesn't have enough guts to leave college ball and go coach against NBA coaches. He, like Coach K, created what they have and why do they have to leave to go prove something else? I don't know that he gets everyone he wants as UConn only has 11 on their roster this year when 15 are allowed by the NCAA. He gets some of the best players and he expects the best out of them as well.
Sooner Cal
New member
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2010
- Messages
- 216
- Reaction score
- 0
I think it's pretty obvious coach K knows he can't compete in the NBA. Instead he coaches a program that flies charter jet, stays in 5 star hotels, and is on tv all the time. He knows what that means for recruiting. His budget is the largest in D1 basketball. Last I saw, it was 3 times the OU budget. Probably less than that now, but still a huge advantage, just like Geno.
So you point is correct, but you actually support my thesis. Geno knows a good thing when he sees one. Just like coach K.
So you point is correct, but you actually support my thesis. Geno knows a good thing when he sees one. Just like coach K.
Sooner Cal
New member
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2010
- Messages
- 216
- Reaction score
- 0
I guess what you are saying is that coach K and Geno expect more from their elite players than they do from themselves. I can go along with that.
By the way, it's Geno who let all the talk about him taking a men's job run wild a couple of years ago.
By the way, it's Geno who let all the talk about him taking a men's job run wild a couple of years ago.
I don't think it is very intelligent for an established college coach to attempt to go to the pros. In the college situation, the coach usually has almost absolute control over the situation. He/she can recruit to his/her needs and style. The practices and routines are established. The assistants and support staff tend to be selected by the coach.
If you go to the pros, you probably find that there is an owner, a general manager, a scouting director, and other parts of an organization that may have more control over the situation than you do, and you don't select them. They are imbedded by the owner. You may not even have the final say on the players that your team drafts. Your coaching decisions may well be impacted by an interfering general manager or owner. You are pretty much bound to work within the confines and constrictions imposed by the team management, all of whom will be there when you leave. Indeed, they'll likely be there through several coaches. You are this year's model and may have only two or three years to turn around a product that they are making the key decisions on.
For the most part, the carousel consists of a group of coaches who are willing to operate within these parameters, most of whom have one or two good years on which to base their reputation. Hopefully, it is sufficient since they may well never be back.
If you go to the pros, you probably find that there is an owner, a general manager, a scouting director, and other parts of an organization that may have more control over the situation than you do, and you don't select them. They are imbedded by the owner. You may not even have the final say on the players that your team drafts. Your coaching decisions may well be impacted by an interfering general manager or owner. You are pretty much bound to work within the confines and constrictions imposed by the team management, all of whom will be there when you leave. Indeed, they'll likely be there through several coaches. You are this year's model and may have only two or three years to turn around a product that they are making the key decisions on.
For the most part, the carousel consists of a group of coaches who are willing to operate within these parameters, most of whom have one or two good years on which to base their reputation. Hopefully, it is sufficient since they may well never be back.
SoonerNorm
Super Moderator
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2008
- Messages
- 19,033
- Reaction score
- 1
I think most coaches who go from college to pro do so for a variety of reasons:
1. They are tired of recruiting. There is a lot of pressure to recruit, lots of traveling, lots of competition for those players, recruits can be less than honest, etc.
2. They are tired of rubbing elbows with alumni and helping raise money.
3. Ego. They want to try the big leagues to see if they have what it takes to coach at the highest level and succeed.
4. Last but certainly not least is money. They can sign a 5 year contract at 5 mil per and set themselves up for life. Even if they get fired they still collect AND they know they can get a really good job back in college.
5. I'm sure there are other reasons but the bottom line is, there isn't much to lose and they have quite a bit to gain.
1. They are tired of recruiting. There is a lot of pressure to recruit, lots of traveling, lots of competition for those players, recruits can be less than honest, etc.
2. They are tired of rubbing elbows with alumni and helping raise money.
3. Ego. They want to try the big leagues to see if they have what it takes to coach at the highest level and succeed.
4. Last but certainly not least is money. They can sign a 5 year contract at 5 mil per and set themselves up for life. Even if they get fired they still collect AND they know they can get a really good job back in college.
5. I'm sure there are other reasons but the bottom line is, there isn't much to lose and they have quite a bit to gain.
KCRuf/Nek
New member
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2011
- Messages
- 3,378
- Reaction score
- 0
So I take it that people here are basing their opinion on Coach K partly on the absolutely horrible job he's done handling all the egos and personalities on our international team?
If I were some of these guys I'd never leave either. It's like Stoops. Why should he ever go anywhere else? Unless it's an ego thing why even rock the boat?
If I were some of these guys I'd never leave either. It's like Stoops. Why should he ever go anywhere else? Unless it's an ego thing why even rock the boat?
Similar threads
