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Other than the negative impact this has on OKC, I really don't care one way or another.
 
The interesting thing in this is that Michael Jordan is the leading hardline owner. The Hornets were actually sold at a $100 million loss and he does not think over half the players in the league are worthy of their salary.

He is going to be the face of the owners as they drop the revenue share to 47% and demand a hard salary cap.
 
I back the owners on this. It's about time one of the major sporting industries tries to do something about the out of control player salaries in professional sports. Good for them.

The only reason I care at all is b/c it pretty much took away the final shot my Celtics had at getting another title with their current roster.
 
bocabull said:
The interesting thing in this is that Michael Jordan is the leading hardline owner. The Hornets were actually sold at a $100 million loss and he does not think over half the players in the league are worthy of their salary.

He is going to be the face of the owners as they drop the revenue share to 47% and demand a hard salary cap.
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I would say 75% of those clowns arent worth what they make. Only the headliners (Dirk, Kobe, Dwight, Durant Wade/Bron, etc) bring in enough revenue to justify that kind of salary.

I side with the owners, 100%. I am glad the NBA and it's owners are taking a stand against these absurd salaries.
 
I never thought the ownership of the NBA could ever be branded as smart and or shrewd, but I vastly underestimated the ineptness of the NBA Players Association.

This whole thing is just madness. They've finally recovered from the post-Jordan gloom and produced a season that was as followed as any in a generation and what do they do? Kill every last drop of the momentum. I'm with the owners here, and I think they've been more than accomodating in these negotiations.
 
David Stern today: "We were very close, and the players decided to blow it up."

David Stern last Thursday: "There comes a time when you have to be through negotiating, and we are."

Every single concession in this negotiation has been made by the players. Every single one.

Players > Owners by a country mile.
 
The owners are winning the PR battle but let's face it, if the offer on the table was fair there would be a crack in the players united front. Somebody giving up their average salary of $6 million this year would push for a vote and publicly split from the union.

So my gut tells me the owners are BSing us.
 
Tony said:
David Stern today: "We were very close, and the players decided to blow it up."

David Stern last Thursday: "There comes a time when you have to be through negotiating, and we are."

Every single concession in this negotiation has been made by the players. Every single one.

Players > Owners by a country mile.
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Why should the owners be throwing out concessions? That is what got the league in trouble to begin with. They are trying to retake control of the league, and it's finances.

Perfect example of why I hate unions. They do nothing but screw things up in today's world.
 
bocabull said:
The owners are winning the PR battle but let's face it, if the offer on the table was fair there would be a crack in the players united front.
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None of the owners ever claimed they were looking for fair. They are trying to correct problems with previous agreements. I've always expected the owners to make offers that would tilt things back in their direction. And the way I see it, they've been very upfront about it.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens with OSU and OU attendance this year.

Mediocre play notwithstanding, I think it's pretty clear at this point that the Thunder has hurt attendance at both places.
 
WTSooner said:
Why should the owners be throwing out concessions? That is what got the league in trouble to begin with. They are trying to retake control of the league, and it's finances..
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Um, the point is that the "greedy" players have continually made concessions, but the owners just want more and more. The owners claim to have made losses of over 300 million and the players offered to give back 350 million.

Frankly I find this who thing borderline farcical without a discussion of equity value.
 
Tony said:
Frankly I find this who thing borderline farcical without a discussion of equity value.
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Right. And the fact that the owners won't fully open the books adds to their suspect negotiations.

I don't know about you guys but I have never tuned in or attended an NBA game to see an owner. The players make the league. IMO an owner should break-even on an operating basis. If they need the NBA to be their piggy bank they can't afford to own a team and there are plenty of billionaires who can afford it without needing the income. The problem now is you have marginally wealthy owners who recently bought teams at peak value before the great bush recession and they can't afford it. Screw em. Let them sell to people who can afford the luxury of owning a trophy like an NBA franchise.
 
tony said:
um, the point is that the "greedy" players have continually made concessions, but the owners just want more and more. the owners claim to have made losses of over 300 million and the players offered to give back 350 million.

frankly i find this who thing borderline farcical without a discussion of equity value.
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this
 
Tony said:
Um, the point is that the "greedy" players have continually made concessions, but the owners just want more and more. The owners claim to have made losses of over 300 million and the players offered to give back 350 million.
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LMAO.

How does that fix the problem going forward? It doesn't.
 
Tony said:
Um, the point is that the "greedy" players have continually made concessions, but the owners just want more and more. The owners claim to have made losses of over 300 million and the players offered to give back 350 million.

Frankly I find this who thing borderline farcical without a discussion of equity value.
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That doesn't fix the system.
 
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