Incoming transfer?

[hoopsaustin]

A true center would be ideal. One with experience and a known offensive game.

I'm not big on starting either of Buford or Lattin alongside Spangler next year. No problems with Spangler, just think he needs a bigger body playing beside him. So somebody that is a true post/center type would be ideal.

MAYBE Manyang is that guy. But that is a pretty offensively challenged starting post group. I have a feeling IF LK is looking at a post transfer, that means there are question marks about either Buford or Manyang being able to play next season.

The other type of transfer that would be nice would be somebody to step in for Buddy if he leaves. A stud scorer from the 2/3 spot.

And this!

 

[KBaden145]

I would take a big like Thomas, personally. I fear we're going to sorely miss his scoring in the paint next season.

Another Thomas would be great but, like WT is saying, we need a bit more size and length with similar post scoring at that 5 position. Rim protection was better this season but it still needs to get better. I'd take a true 5, a high level shooting combo guard, or, if Buddy leaves, a big, scoring wing guard.


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[Darwin]

Ball handling point or combo would be our biggest need imo.

 

[Eielson]

I wish I hadn't read this thread. The anticipation is going to be killing me until something happens.

With that said, we desperately need a guard that can create half-court offense.

 

[chuckb]

I would take a big like Thomas, personally. I fear we're going to sorely miss his scoring in the paint next season.

Definitely. We'll be able to defend the paint pretty well but we're going to need some offense inside.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I wish I hadn't read this thread. The anticipation is going to be killing me until something happens.

With that said, we desperately need a guard that can create half-court offense.

I'm dying to know too.. welcome to the board btw

 

[CoachTalk]

There is if Cole leaves (ie, graduates and/or pursues med school). Or simply comes off scholarship. None of us know what LK's agreement with him is.

Cole was given a full ride for 4 years. LK isnt travis ford or coach cal and pulling a ship. If Cole decides to give up basketball then thats his decision.

I know you dont believe much I saw but this is solid info.

 

[WTSooner]

I know you dont believe much I saw but this is solid info.

Maybe that is b/c I know more about you than you think I do?

As in, where you coach and where you went to school. I have family at the school you coach at. You even coach one of them.

Nothing goes on in this part of Oklahoma that I don't know about.

 

[garyeb2]

Maybe that is b/c I know more about you than you think I do?

As in, where you coach and where you went to school. I have family at the school you coach at. You even coach one of them.

Nothing goes on in this part of Oklahoma that I don't know about.

Do you also do pet detective work?

 

[WTSooner]

Do you also do pet detective work?

No sir. Just humans.

People say I missed my calling as a PI. I can find out more about most people in 30 minutes, than a professional can in 5 days. It's a gift, and a curse. :ez-laugh:

 

[garyeb2]

No sir. Just humans.

People say I missed my calling as a PI. I can find out more about most people in 30 minutes, than a professional can in 5 days. It's a gift, and a curse. :ez-laugh:

No, it is software.

 

[WTSooner]

No, it is software.

I don't have a single piece of software that would allow me to do anything of the sort. Just good with standard, everybody has it and can use it, internet stuff.

 

[red recluse]

I have a feeling IF LK is looking at a post transfer, that means there are question marks about either Buford or Manyang being able to play next season.

probably manyang considering his leave of absence during the season, and from dirty's report that he looked like a chicken with his head cut off when he saw manyang play.

we need someone who can score in the post, and has a good standing vertical jump and explosiveness. but that is asking a lot. so you can pencil lattin in next to spangler.

 

[okhoops918]

Getting an impact transfer and having Hield stay is the only way we are competitive in conference next year again ( as in competing for the top spot!)

If Hield stays, no impact transfer, TT gone = a half-step back.
If Hield leaves, no impact transfer, TT gone = big step back.

Woodard, Cousins, and Spangler are all solid players but their limitations were exposed late in the year. Hield and TT were the only 2 competing at a high level the last few games it seemed.

 

[chuckb]

Getting an impact transfer and having Hield stay is the only way we are competitive in conference next year again ( as in competing for the top spot!)

If Hield stays, no impact transfer, TT gone = a half-step back.
If Hield leaves, no impact transfer, TT gone = big step back.

Woodard, Cousins, and Spangler are all solid players but their limitations were exposed late in the year. Hield and TT were the only 2 competing at a high level the last few games it seemed.

Woodard, by and large, played extremely well late in the season. It's easy to remember a bad pass and point to it and say "see, he made bad plays!" but he made far more good plays than bad. I expect a lot of improvement still from him next year.

 

[Eielson]

Getting an impact transfer and having Hield stay is the only way we are competitive in conference next year again ( as in competing for the top spot!)

If Hield stays, no impact transfer, TT gone = a half-step back.
If Hield leaves, no impact transfer, TT gone = big step back.

Woodard, Cousins, and Spangler are all solid players but their limitations were exposed late in the year. Hield and TT were the only 2 competing at a high level the last few games it seemed.

Does Buford count as an impact transfer?

If Hield stays, I don't see any way that we take a step back. I know that we lost Thomas, but I expect our guys to improve. Lattin should improve a lot, and Woodard should improve at least some. If Booker doesn't improve, he'll be replaced by one of the freshman, and they can't possible be worse.

Admittedly, Cousins and Spangler are probably about maxed out, and Buddy might be.

 

[okhoops918]

Woodard, by and large, played extremely well late in the season. It's easy to remember a bad pass and point to it and say "see, he made bad plays!" but he made far more good plays than bad. I expect a lot of improvement still from him next year.

he regressed this year from last in terms of offensive production. I think he defended better this year all season.

I guess you're right that he played 'better' toward the end of the year than the beginning but he was playing some pretty sub-par basketball at parts earlier int he season.

He was the 3rd best contributor for OU vs Mich St. IMO and played very well vs Dayton.

Spangler on offense is a concern. He always rebounds well but he just doesn't seem to be able to contribute on offense vs good teams. His midrange isn't dependable enough and he doesn't have a post game to really speak of.

I envision living and dying by jumpshots next year with Spangler chasing rebounds unless we get someone like Thomas who can put their back to the basket and get easier buckets.

As much as this board likes to think Lattin and Manyang can be these guys...they aren't. They're athletic rim protectors. Maybe when Lattin is a JR/SR but not next year. Manyang is similar to that. Picks, open dunks/layins,.

Buford is more of a SF than a post player too.
We could go small and start Buford/Spangler for more offense or go a little bigger and start Spangler/ Manyang or Lattin..

Either way, that's a step back from Spangler/Thomas both defensively and offensively.

 

[pnkranger]

A key about the bench mentioned here -- we can't possibly be worse in bench play next year. Our bench AVERAGED 12 points, 7 rebounds while shooting 35% and less than 30% from 3 ... including all of the early season games against middling (and worse) competition.

I would expect a major increase in contributions from the bench next year. Our starting lineup might not be as good, but walker and Booker are going to have some competition for minutes from buford, ofdomes, and james.

 

[okhoops918]

Does Buford count as an impact transfer?

If Hield stays, I don't see any way that we take a step back. I know that we lost Thomas, but I expect our guys to improve. Lattin should improve a lot, and Woodard should improve at least some. If Booker doesn't improve, he'll be replaced by one of the freshman, and they can't possible be worse.

Admittedly, Cousins and Spangler are probably about maxed out, and Buddy might be.

Buford...somewhat of an impact. Problem I see there is we will be small to start Buford/Spangler.

I also see Buford as someone who isn't going to be getting high % shots like TT.

TT shot 52% for a reason, he got the ball and got close to the rim backing his opponents down. I don't expect a 6'6/6'7 guy who is right at 200 to come into big 12 play with that type of game.

So even if Buford puts up 12/7 like TT did (unlikely)...he won't be doing it with the same efficiency or experience on either end of the court.

I believe Woodard, Hield, Cousins, and Spangler are all near their 'ceilings' production wise. That's just my personal thought. They can however get even better at making 'winning plays' as a team. Cousins specifically struggles at making smart plays sometimes. Woodard too. So they can improve as a team but their personal production, I wouldn't expect to change drastically.

Depth next year will be better so that should be something but I'm not sure how much they'll be contributing. Should help the players not get as gas'd at end of season

 

[garyeb2]

Some of you guys are way way off on your expectations for Manyang. I'm just as interested as everyone else on the prospects for next season. For that reason, I check from time to time on his status and progress with various staff members. The most recent imput was within the last week.

All I have ever heard was that the staff believes him to be the "missing piece" or "we believe as a staff that we can take him to the next level as a player and in return we expect him to take us to the next level as a team". No time frame was predicted. But, everyone within reasonable proximity to the program expects him to roll in and start immediately.